That minority is also pissing off the majority of "legit" gamers as well. Honestly, legit gamers do it for the spirit of the game and fun. I have an ulterior motive - promote Zelda and keep Zelda popular. I up-play everything I do/see related to Zelda to make it a spectacle - so that fans want stay interested.
To the point - I don't do this for fame or fortune. It does give me a sense of pride, though, when I do something I thought I couldn't. When I did that 35:50 LoZ video on VHS in 3 tries, compared to last summer where it took me 2 weeks to get 37:50 - it showed how much of a better gamer I have become in such little time. To me, speed runs measure how much I improve as a gamer. I don't like to compare myself to other gamers - I never thought speed running was a viable way to prove your "skills" in comparison to another. If you want to show you're a great gamer, go into Fighting Game tournaments or join the PC FPS ranks. That is where true competition lies.
I don't get why they get so mad. I don't recall anyone claiming any video made by an emulator was some sort of record or an amazing personal feat. I just remember people saying it was either "cool looking" or "this is impossible to do, it's fake". They act like the world is going mad and that "legit" gaming is going to hell. Additionally, if you even hint that videos from this site and others are "good", they brand you a traitor and make up viscious lies - like that my videos are all fake.
Honestly, their tactics ar just to bash you into the ground until you feel worthless or frustrate you into doing something stupid. Their conduct, however, is very unbecoming. They're quite arrogant and ignorant, and I really don't care much for them. They remind me of drunken frat guys who's life depends upon a fragile balance that if shattered, they fall into oblivion.
On top of all this, except for sdkess, I don't know any of these other guys yelling. sdkess is one of the more reserved arguers, but these other more ignorant guys are relative nobody's. I've asked on several occasions for them to provide me with links to stuff they've done, even just a forum where they claim stuff, and I've gotten no response. One of them sent me Super Mario World videos, but they were audio-less (suspicious to me) and better than anything I've seen (ex: a 10:48 SMW run). Yet this video was sent in secrecy and is not onlne for public viewing.
They champion people like SnapDragon and The-Elite.net players, but when I chatted with them and asked The-Elite crew if they knew ANY of the people who were bashing Emu Assited Runs, they were all like "who's that?". I think in one of the chats I saw, Jason Whalls was there. But he didn't speak at all.
I tried Googling these names, and all I could find was a LoZ emulator run...done a few years ago.
Anyway, I am just going to ignore them from now on. I think if anymore of this crap heads this way, ban the user and lock the thread up. It's not necessary, it's just trolling. I go to Archive.org and I see a HUGE disclaimer before all Emu Assited Runs which makes it very clear they weren't done in the same was as other runs. And Archive.org will outlast any "competitive" site in the end. Nobody claims these runs are records, and nobody thinks they are. I seriously have like...this urge to want to bash their heads against a wall for being so stupid and ignorant. And they also act like they rule the world, when they have no credentials.
I believe the name for these type of people is "posers". That's what we used to call wannabe aggressive skaters in 6th grade who wore the clothing and talked the talk, but had an excuse for every occassion when asked to back it up. That's what these guys are.
And they're not TG. Twin Galaxies is about to improve. They're database will be updated, and they will update in the future quickly. It seriously will gain back respect. In fact, all The Elite times, as well as the MarioKart64.com times, are going to be logged there. It's going to reflect the best of the best. The-Elite and other niche sites will continue to focus on specific games for competitions, but TG is eventually going to emerge as the dominant verification site. And their rules and refs are stricters and more adept to the technological threats to legit runs.
So from where I am standing - anyone who continues to insist "Tool-Assisted Runs" destroy legit gaming needs to wake up. I'm willing to bet (as sad as it is) that all of the people whining about this are American...figures.
And as I proposed to you guys awhile back - challenge these fools. Beat them at their own game and make them respect you. I challenged that Mister Dan guy to anything Zelda related. I bet his excuse will be "You're a nobody, you can't challenge me!" or something.
Anyway, I think it's time to just ignore this and let the issue die. Things are in motion that will end this all and render the "posers" obsolete.