Post by nesrocks

I love this plan! I'm excited to be a part of it!</ghostbusters> Seriously though, I whole-heartedly encourage this idea. I've been away from "my" computer since last May and I haven't been able to fool around with any emulators/bittorrent since. Using Google Video, despite the lower quality, is a great way to allow more access to the movies.

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Posted: 2/17/2006 12:10 AM

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cwilliams

Joined: 2/7/2006
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Just logged in to the nesvideos google video account to add some details to videos. Looks like someone else with access has already added a lot more details to videos I uploaded! Here is what is online under our shared account so far: NES Castlevania 3 - Dracula's Curse in 25:57 by Jean-Francois Durocher (Genisto) NES Castlevania 1 in 11:43 by Phil Cote & Jean-Francois Durocher (aka. Genisto) GBA Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow in 27:46 by Atma SNES Chrono Trigger in 4:21:12 by Ryan Foley (aka. hero of the day) Genesis Comix Zone in 14:13 by Richard Hinteregger (aka. zer0) Genesis Ecco the Dolphin in 24:14 by Nitsuja GB Zelda - Link's Awakening in 04:22 by Paul Acito (aka. DonamerDragon) NES Gradius in 14:12 by Morimoto Genesis Sonic 3 & Knuckles in 45:56 by Gavin Ward (aka. SprintGod) SNES Mega Man X & X2 in 41:41 by Sean P. (aka. DeHackEd) SNES Out of this World in 15:26 by Nitsuja NES Mega Man 1 in 16:58 by Joel Yliluoma (aka. Bisqwit) SNES Zelda: A Link to the Past in 1:20:16 by Darren Smith (aka. flagitious) Genesis Sonic the Hedgehog 2 in 21:40 by Quietust Genesis Sonic the Hedgehog in 18:28 by JXQ N64 Super Mario 64 in 16:27 by Spezzafer NES Super Mario Bros 1 in 18:58 by Phil Cote & Jean-Francois Durocher (Genisto) NES Super Mario Bros 1 in 05:00 by R.Yoshizawa (aka. Pom) NES Super Mario Bros 3 in 10:35 by Jean-Francois Durocher (aka. Genisto) SNES Super Mario RPG in 2:40:26 by Spezzafer SNES Super Mario World in 10:36 by flagitious and VIPer7 SNES Super Mario World in 1:23:38 by Tim Offermann (aka. VIPer7) SNES Super Mario World 2 - Yoshi's Island in 1:38:57 by Spezzafer NES Zelda 2 - The Adventure of Link in 06:17 by Emmitt R. Kraft (aka. GigaFrost) SNES Zelda: A Link to the Past in 3:48 by Michael Reilly (aka. OmnipotentEntity) A few more will be live very soon. I will try and keep this list updated. As you can see, here our the criteria I think we should follow for submissions: TITLE: The title is identical to the submission title minues the country of the ROM. In practice this means the titles usually look like System Game Name in time by author(s) My reason for obmitting the rom country is twofold. First, the titles are already quite long, even bumping into the google video maximum, so leaving it out gives us more room. Secondly, most people will not know what it is referring to. Description: The description opens with a descriptive statement that all tool-assited runs recieve. I took it from FODA's descriptions, and I think it should really stay. "This movie was made using an emulator with savestates and slowdown. It's meant to show the game pushed to its limits. For more information on emulator videos, please visit http://tasvideos.org/" After this a specific link is given to the actual movies entry on nesvideos. This allows the person to download the high quality bittorrent or see any additional information. "This specific movie is located here: http://tasvideos.org/movies.cgi?..." Next the notes for the run are copy and pasted. The notes are usually of interest to a person watching the video. "Notes: Blah blah!" Lastly the list of, I dont know what to call them, item notes such as "takes damage to save time" are given: "This movie: -blah blah -blah blah 2!" Language: English Production Company: Author of run Genre: Animation Date: date of run URL: bisqwit.iki.fi/nesvideos/ Credits: none Advanced options: defaults I think this is a good blueprint for how we should do them all, although its obviously open for discussion. Omega has mentioned that once he nails down what license the videos fall under we should note them, and I agree with him. I also think someone with editor access should go through and on all the entries that have a google video add a link along the lines of "Watch this video now at Google Video" so people could watch it if they want. Lastly I encourage everyone who has runs uploaded to their own google accounts delete them and upload them to this shared account. For the record, following are all the runs on Google Video that I am aware of that are not under our nesvideos account. First, FODA has uploaded these, and hopefully will move them to the shared account: Genesis - Alex Kidd in Enchanted Castle - hardest mode in 6:55 Genesis - Pit Fighter - hardest mode - no damage NES - Battletoads 2 players warpless - in 24:57 NES - Excitebike all 6 tracks finished total 5:58 NES - Gauntlet in 12:24 NES - Kickmaster finished in 8:58 NES - Street Fighter 2010 - in 17:40 Neofix uploaded these, and hopefully will move them to the shared account: Strider TAS by Neofix "Strider" time attack in 7:24 min. by Neofix "Spider-man vs Kingpin" time attack in 7:22 min. The following is a list of videos that I do not know who uploaded: NES Super Mario Bros 2 N64 Mario 64 NES Tetris NES Metroid SNES Super Punchout SNES Zelda: A Link to the Past GBA Sonic Advace 2 Mario Time Attack I will try to keep these lists updated. I have uploaded all the videos I personally like, and still have more that need details that Ill get to eventually if someone doesnt beat me to it. If anyone else wants a video uploaded that I didnt uploaded, feel free (obviously) to do it yourself under the shared account or just request me to it and I will.

Posted: 2/20/2006 2:07 AM

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cwilliams

Joined: 2/7/2006
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One of the editors is still going to town giving uploaded videos details, so here is what our list looks like now: NES Castlevania 1 in 11:43 by Phil Cote & Jean-Francois Durocher (aka. Genisto) NES Castlevania 3 - Dracula's Curse in 25:57 by Jean-Francois Durocher (Genisto) GBA Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow in 27:46 by Atma Castlevania: Circle of the Moon in 05:34 by Mike Lastovica (aka. OgreSlayer) GBA Castlevania: Circle of the Moon in 23:43 by Mike Lastovica (aka. OgreSlayeR) SNES Chrono Trigger in 4:21:12 by Ryan Foley (aka. hero of the day) Genesis Comix Zone in 14:13 by Richard Hinteregger (aka. zer0) Genesis Contra: Hard Corps in 15:51 by Emmitt R. Kraft (aka. Gigafrost) NES Crystalis in 43:39 by Frank Amoroso (aka. TheAxeMan) SNES Donkey Kong Country in 25:19 by Alex Penev SNES Donkey Kong Country in 48:19 by Alex Penev (in verification) Genesis Ecco the Dolphin in 24:14 by Nitsuja GB Zelda - Link's Awakening in 04:22 by Paul Acito (aka. DonamerDragon) NES Gradius in 14:12 by Morimoto Genesis Sonic 3 & Knuckles in 45:56 by Gavin Ward (aka. SprintGod) NES Marble Madness in 02:51 by Andreas Delikat (aka. adelikat) NES Mario Adventure in 56:01 by Olli Uuskoski (aka. Kyrsimys) SNES Mega Man 7 in 38:55 by Justin Rawson (aka. Tinister) SNES Mega Man X in 30:44 by Sean P. (aka. DeHackEd) SNES Mega Man X2 in 32:23 by Justin Chan (aka. FractalFusion) SNES Mega Man X3 in 38:15 by Justin Chan (aka. FractalFusion) SNES Mega Man X & X2 in 41:41 by Sean P. (aka. DeHackEd) NES Ninja Gaiden 1 in 11:19 by Dan C. (aka. BoltR) NES Ninja Gaiden 2 in 09:30 by Josh Ballard (aka. FunkDOC) NES Ninja Gaiden 3 in 11:30 by Frank Amoroso (aka. TheAxeMan) SNES Out of this World in 15:26 by Nitsuja Genesis Rocket Knight Adventures in 34:20 by Danny Fowler NES Mega Man 1 in 16:58 by Joel Yliluoma (aka. Bisqwit) NES Mega Man 3 in 31:53 by Nick Vatcher (aka. Vatchern) SNES Zelda: A Link to the Past in 1:20:16 by Darren Smith (aka. flagitious) Genesis Sonic the Hedgehog 2 in 21:40 by Quietust Genesis Sonic the Hedgehog in 18:28 by JXQ SNES Super Castlevania 4 in 31:16 by Phil Cote and Jean-Francois Durocher SNES Super Demo World - TLC in 2:13:18 by Fabian & JXQ SNES Super Demo World - TLC in 19:33 by JXQ N64 Super Mario 64 in 16:27 by Spezzafer NES Super Mario Bros 1 in 18:58 by Phil Cote & Jean-Francois Durocher (Genisto) NES Super Mario Bros 1 in 05:00 by R.Yoshizawa (aka. Pom) NES Super Mario Bros 3 in 10:35 by Jean-Francois Durocher (aka. Genisto) SNES Super Mario RPG in 2:40:26 by Spezzafer SNES Super Mario World in 10:36 by flagitious and VIPer7 SNES Super Mario World in 1:23:38 by Tim Offermann (aka. VIPer7) SNES Super Mario World 2 - Yoshi's Island in 1:38:57 by Spezzafer SNES Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles IV in 18:55 by Nitsuja (in verification) NES Legend of Zelda in 25:29 by Phil Cote (in verification) NES Zelda 2 - The Adventure of Link in 06:17 by Emmitt R. Kraft (aka. GigaFrost) SNES Zelda: A Link to the Past in 3:48 by Michael Reilly (aka. OmnipotentEntity) Good job whoever has been adding the details. These are the videos in the shared account, hopefully those people with videos in their own accounts will delete them and move them here. Should we perhaps have a sticky post or a page in the wiki where this information is held, so that other people then me can update the list? And what about the idea of putting something like "watch now at google video" as a link on the submissions entry?

Posted: 2/20/2006 10:30 AM

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SXL

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it seems some countries were added to the list, I can now watch the movies. too bad the quality is so low, I've just watched the fast s3&k movie, and the plugin just can't bear the frame rate. anyway, it's quite useful for users that can't make bittorrent work...

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Posted: 2/20/2006 10:44 AM

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cwilliams

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Yeah, quality is not its strong point, that's why this is not a replacement to the high quality downloads, just a supplement.

Posted: 2/22/2006 9:55 AM

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feitclub

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badrad wrote:

And what about the idea of putting something like "watch now at google video" as a link on the submissions entry?

Yes, although it should be made clear that the Google Video version is "low resolution."

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Posted: 2/26/2006 12:33 AM
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cwilliams

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A couple of things: - no one has any thoughts of creating a sticky post/ wiki page that has the list of videos on google video, video uploading guidelines, etc? - no one has added "watch at google video" style links. What access would I need to add these, and who would decide whether I got that access - several videos of games I like have been updated with new faster versions. What is our plan here, to simply upload the new version and mark the old one as obsolete, or actually delete the old one? - Google Video stats show that so for the nesvideos on Google Video have been viewed over 35000 times and downloaded over 1000 times. - FODA and Neofix should delete their videos and reupload them to this google account, but have not yet done so.

Posted: 2/26/2006 1:18 AM

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nitsuja

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badrad wrote:

several videos of games I like have been updated with new faster versions. What is our plan here, to simply upload the new version and mark the old one as obsolete, or actually delete the old one?

I would delete the old version when a newer one "goes live".

badrad wrote:

no one has added "watch at google video" style links. What access would I need to add these, and who would decide whether I got that access

Anyone with editing priveleges can add mirror links, which would add an entry that looks like: . . . . .Download from mirror site (video.google.com) But it would probably take some change by Bisqwit to allow for wording it differently (such as "watch low-quality streaming version at Google Video"), and you'd probably want to get his approval first anyway. (He might not like this idea - I don't know, he hasn't said anything about it in this thread yet.)

Posted: 2/26/2006 1:30 PM

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nesrocks

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how do you see the stats? i searched and couldn't find any.

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Posted: 2/27/2006 12:02 AM

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cwilliams

Joined: 2/7/2006
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FODA, After logging in, select the reports tab in the upper left. The stats can lag by a couple days, so I usually select the time perioed "all time".

Posted: 2/27/2006 12:07 AM

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cwilliams

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I'm gonna to email bisqwit to point him here. Bisqwit, I think it would be useful to have a link on the submission that are on Google Video, something along the lines of "Watch now at Google Video". Nitsuja pointed out that the current system would probably only allow "Download from mirror site (video.google.com)", which is decent but Google Video is really for watching the videos immediately, not for downloading them. What do you think? I've also thought perhaps we should creat a sticky post/ wiki page that has the list of videos on google video, video uploading guidelines, etc so people dont have to dig through this thread. And are we in agreement that old videos on Google Video should be deleted (versus marked as obsolete) when new ones are released?

Posted: 2/27/2006 5:11 AM

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Fabian

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My two cents: Great idea in general. I definately think there should be a google video link in addition to the emulator file and the torrent avi. I also think obsoleted movies should be deleted, not marked as obsolete.

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Posted: 2/27/2006 11:53 PM

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nesrocks

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ok, i've updated my TASes, i only didn't move to the nesvideos account the mario64 demonstrations. I will also make an avi of the adventure island movie and upload it to my own account.

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Posted: 2/28/2006 10:12 AM

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cwilliams

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Good to see your files moved over FODA. You didn't add the extended information we've been adding to videos, were you against it or just too lazy to do it? I'll do it for you if you want. Theres two other videos I gotta give info, and Ill do them all at once. Still haven't heard from bisqwit on the "Watch now at Google Video" links. I'm going to go ahead and delete obsoleted movies. Only a few people have weighed in, but everyone seems to favor deletion over marking obsolete as obsolete.

Posted: 2/28/2006 12:25 PM

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nesrocks

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yes delete obsoleted videos. humm i just copied the info from my videos... You can go ahead and put the extra info, sorry about that. I would suggest changing the title slightly to add more info about the movie like "warpless" "no damage" or "2 player" whenever it seems important and is an impressive feature of the movie.

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Posted: 2/28/2006 1:05 PM

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Bisqwit

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badrad wrote:

Still haven't heard from bisqwit on the "Watch now at Google Video" links.

No… What you expressed in the e-mail seemed to be different from what has been discussed in this thread. I’ll consider this suggestion.

Posted: 2/28/2006 11:18 PM

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cwilliams

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Bisqwit wrote:

badrad wrote:
Still haven't heard from bisqwit on the "Watch now at Google Video" links.
No… What you expressed in the e-mail seemed to be different from what has been discussed in this thread. I’ll consider this suggestion.

Sorry if I wasn't clear in the email :)

FODA wrote:

I would suggest changing the title slightly to add more info about the movie like "warpless" "no damage" or "2 player" whenever it seems important and is an impressive feature of the movie.

Sure, its something to consider. On many videos we are already bumping against the title length limit, but it may be worth adding to the videos that they fit on. I do include all the things like that in the notes of the video already.

Posted: 3/9/2006 9:22 AM

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