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Emulator used: VisualBoyAdvance 1.7.2 re-recording v14
Full amazing version
Done at 150cc
Luck manipulation
Accuracy++
Genre Racing
Description:
The controlled character has maximum badluck vs opponents attacks. Sometimes, I slowdown to show you some funny things. Sorry, I don't found any bugs, but the last road (Rainbow Road) is very entertaining to watch ;) There are many good tricks too.
Doing a fast as possible version on this game would be very bad to watch.
Truncated: Due to over-all poor reception from the intended audience, rejecting.
I'm afraid Spacecow and hopper have died from lack of oxygen by now.

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Posted: 1/25/2006 3:18 AM
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hopper
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Shorter would definitely be nice. I have a short attention span so I like to be wowed quickly and be done with it quickly. If the wow factor is great enough, I might even watch it again.
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Posted: 1/25/2006 5:17 AM
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DonamerDragon
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Sorry, I have to vote no. I would have been more entertained if you had done perfect accuracy and speed. I can mess up quite easily without the emulater...heh. I don't need the emulator to do it on purpose. I'm not trying to sound mean or anything, but I think I actually got irritated trying to watch a perfectly good mega uber shortcut be ruined on purpose. Even on Rainbow Road. I would have LOVED to see the whole course done like that last lap was or better. Noting but perfectly timed bounces all the way to the finish line. I think this game beaten using shortcuts like that would be much better.
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Posted: 1/25/2006 7:08 AM
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EscapePlan9
Joined: 12/29/2005
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I vote yes. The majority of each race cannot be replicated without tool-assists, so I still consider it a tool-assisted run. I keep reading people claiming "if I wanted to see a run with mistakes, I'd do it myself without tools". They aren't realizing how much effort went into this run. For instance, when he shoots three green shells against the wall and it hits him as well as the two other opponents, that's nearly impossible to replicate without tool-assists. And as MF as posted in those vids, beating the game in record times can be done without tool-assists. So what's the more complicated feat? There's a quote by Scott Adams (creator of Dilbert) I like a lot: "Creativity is allowing yourself to make mistakes. Art is knowing which ones to keep."
Posted: 1/25/2006 7:14 AM
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Bag_of_Magic_Food
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Posted: 1/25/2006 3:38 PM
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hopper
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EscapePlan9 wrote:
I keep reading people claiming "if I wanted to see a run with mistakes, I'd do it myself without tools". They aren't realizing how much effort went into this run.
Oh, I appreciate the effort that went into it. If effort was all that mattered, almost every movie would get published, and stars would be awarded based on re-record count. I feel bad to vote No for a movie that clearly took a lot of effort and explored a unique angle, but this just isn't what I look for in a TAS.
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Posted: 1/25/2006 8:11 PM
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EscapePlan9
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So in other words, your problem with the run is not that it could be easily reproduced without tools (which isn't true), but rather it's not your type of run. This run contains art and inhuman feats from tool-assists. It also contains speed and drama (comebacks, etc) on certain laps. This run has a wide variety of appealing factors, more so than the videos MF linked. Once you do one lap the fastest possible, there's nothing special about repeating the fastest route on the other laps, it's just the same thing. You take the same shortcuts and turns the same way while grabbing the best powerups for the situation. That's why I think the main focus should be on entertainment instead of speed for this game. Obviously some people disagree.
Posted: 1/25/2006 10:00 PM
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Xkeeper
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However, this is either about speed or entertainment. As this game does not go for speed, it must rely on entertainment. To many people, watching sloppy mistakes and errors is not entertaining, myself included. I'm sure we all reconize that a lot of effort went into making this run, but the sloppy mistakes and countless errors ruin that feel of superhuman perfection TASes are supposed to aim for. Watching someone beat the snot out of this game could very well be interesting, especially if variety (no one said you had to use the same shortcuts every single time) is shown.
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Posted: 1/26/2006 12:25 AM
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hopper
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EscapePlan9 wrote:
So in other words, your problem with the run is not that it could be easily reproduced without tools (which isn't true), but rather it's not your type of run. ... That's why I think the main focus should be on entertainment instead of speed for this game. Obviously some people disagree.
Exactly. I don't find it entertaining, therefore I voted No.
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Posted: 1/26/2006 1:00 AM
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EscapePlan9
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Watching someone beat the snot out of this game could very well be interesting, especially if variety (no one said you had to use the same shortcuts every single time) is shown.
But if you're going for speed, you should be using the fastest route possible on every lap. Like you said "speed OR entertainment" (although I disagree with the dichotomy myself). If you're going for entertainment, there's no need to completely demolish the competition on every lap and every track. Like others have said, it's tough to judge runs done for entertainment since it's such a subjective matter. Although you (and many others) consider beating this game as fast as possible would be more entertaining, many others disagree.
Posted: 1/26/2006 1:21 AM
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hopper
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That's why we vote. Personally, I like being amazed by watching games be beaten faster than humanly possible. Some people like this run, and some people don't. Since everyone has a different opinion of what is entertaining, we vote on it.
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Posted: 2/6/2006 7:45 PM
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dawnshadow
Joined: 11/14/2005
Posts: 17
Haven't watched yet, as I don't have the ROM on hand and have to hunt it down, but I have a suggestion from what I've been reading in this thread: Publish this run on April 1st. Hopefully, that'll make everyone happy.
Posted: 3/21/2006 12:59 PM
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>Publish this run on April 1st. Noone responded to this, I guess everyone just took it as a joke. I seriously think this is a good idea. It gets around the fuss about publishing a video that isn't optimal. (The Mario side-stroller clearly wasn't.) It doesn't stop an as-fast-as-possible movie to get published if anybody makes one. And also, it's a humorous video fitting for the occasion. If published like this, my vote is Yes. Otherwise, I think it should be rejected.
Posted: 3/21/2006 1:02 PM
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Baxter
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>Publish this run on April 1st. Noone responded to this, I guess everyone just took it as a joke. I seriously think this is a good idea. It gets around the fuss about publishing a video that isn't optimal. (The Mario side-stroller clearly wasn't.) It doesn't stop an as-fast-as-possible movie to get published if anybody makes one. And also, it's a humorous video fitting for the occasion. If published like this, my vote is Yes. Otherwise, I think it should be rejected.
I fully agree with this all.
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Posted: 3/21/2006 3:41 PM
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Bag_of_Magic_Food
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I don't! Maybe put up the movie file later, but don't make a movie file out of the movie file, if you know what I mean.
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Posted: 3/21/2006 4:44 PM
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OmnipotentEntity
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I agree with the April 1st thing.
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Posted: 3/21/2006 7:50 PM
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Blublu
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I disagree, the "side-stroller" movie does have a clear goal and could theoretically be beaten.
Posted: 3/21/2006 9:03 PM
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>I don't! Maybe put up the movie file later, but don't make a movie file out of the movie file, if you know what I mean. No. Nobody has a clue about what you mean. Also I still don't appreciate your incessant garbage posting. Cease and desist until you have something worth reading to write. >I disagree, the "side-stroller" movie does have a clear goal and could theoretically be beaten. So it's the fact that this movie has no clear goals and could not be obsoleted that makes you think it shouldn't be published April 1:st or any other day? The side-stroller was obsoleted without any new version being posted... but this was later revoked. Anyway I don't see a need to obsolete a joke video by beating it. Unless the new version is also posted on April 1:st.
Posted: 3/21/2006 9:05 PM
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You know... When you have a "movie" file, but it's not really a MOVIE because it's just button presses.
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Posted: 3/21/2006 10:40 PM
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Blublu
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So it's the fact that this movie has no clear goals and could not be obsoleted that makes you think it shouldn't be published April 1:st or any other day?
That's right.
No. Nobody has a clue about what you mean.
He meant don't make a movie file (avi, ogm, mkv) of the emulator automatically playing the game by using the button press file. But I'm sure you already knew that.
Posted: 3/22/2006 1:22 AM
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Nach
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Blublu wrote:
I disagree, the "side-stroller" movie does have a clear goal and could theoretically be beaten.
It's more than theoreticall, I know I can, a few parts could have been done quite a bit faster.
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Posted: 3/22/2006 7:04 AM
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JXQ
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If you ask me, throwing an "April 1st publication" option onto a workbench movie is a cop-out on actually making a decision on this submission. I haven't voted yet, so how about "no". Sure there are parts that are basically impossible to duplicate tool-assisted, but the overall feel of the run certainly doesn't seem tool-assisted, and to me, it doesn't fit in with the site's current content.
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Posted: 3/22/2006 7:06 AM
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Kyrsimys
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What JXQ said, voting no.
Posted: 4/2/2006 5:01 AM
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billybobfred
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Personally, I liked this video best when you switched between pwning and being pwned. If someone were to try to improve this, I think they could perhaps float between 1st and 8th place, finishing 1st in the end, of course. But a pretty good video. Not so much when you get very very pwned, even though you win anyway. I vote 'yes', mostly because this game doesn't have one yet.
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Posted: 4/2/2006 1:51 PM
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Keeping to my word, since people, including prominent figures of this site, disagreed with publishing this on April 1:st, I will go ahead and reject this since it's obvious it will not be published. Should anyone have a problem with this (probably along the lines of "make it a concept video"), let them speak now or forever hold their peace.
Posted: 4/2/2006 2:28 PM
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KDR_11k
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Too bad, I think it's an entertaining run, even though it's clearly not the fastest and has some "errors" (which still seem to have high precision and show off things you wouldn't be able to see otherwise).
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