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Posted: 12/9/2005 7:05 AM
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Sketchie
Joined: 5/6/2005
Posts: 141
hero of the day wrote:
my partner has the cure spell, so the main character doesnt need it.
I believe the damage-causing Cure spell only works if the Hero casts it. I vaguely remember my trying to cast Cure on Dark King with Phoebe and it actually cured him instead of doing damage. Of course, I might be wrong since it's been a while since I last played FFMQ. This may also be similiar for the Life spell.
Posted: 12/9/2005 7:29 AM
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Highness
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I'm not really sure if it heals him. Let's say it "cures" 32k hp or something. Then the next cure damages 16k. The boss will still change the form I think. Not sure since I haven't checked the code for it. But it should be easy to do so. Great to hear that the run is up again.
Posted: 12/9/2005 8:19 AM
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hero_of_the_day
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well if I do end up needing the cure spell I will pick it up when I head back to the forest town later in the game. BTW I am using the 1.0 version of the game
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Posted: 12/9/2005 4:30 PM
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Highness
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Otherwise you could just hexedit to grab it in the beginning, if it turns out you could use it earlier. For example against zombiefied enemies. Life should work on these as well. But It's a good completment.
Posted: 12/9/2005 8:23 PM
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hero_of_the_day
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I think exit will work on zombified ememies as well. Anyways heres an update, up to the mine. I am just over four and a half minutes ahead of OmegaFlareX's run. http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/458/mystic%20quest.smv
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Posted: 12/10/2005 3:48 AM
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hero_of_the_day
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I just finished the lava dome and my time is one hour and two minutes. Well it turns out that I do need the cure spell so I will have to make a small detour to collect it, luckily the exit spell will speed up the process.
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Posted: 12/10/2005 3:54 AM
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Mlandry
Joined: 8/3/2004
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im pretty sure you need the heros cure spell for it to work ( not 100%, so dont take this as fact ) also maybe im just imaginating things but isnt there a life spell in this game that also works on the last boss? is that longer to get then cure?
Posted: 12/10/2005 3:57 AM
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hero_of_the_day
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well the life spell is in the lava dome but it requires me to fight several enemies, the cure spell is right in the open
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Posted: 12/10/2005 10:03 AM
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Kitsune
Joined: 4/29/2005
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I think you should go for the Life Spell though. It may take a few minutes to get, but, it will be pretty much invaluable later on, unless you can manipulate enemies to miss. I just finished watching the SDA run. Life is pretty much the most, or second most used spell in that run, since it can full restore Hit Points.
Posted: 12/11/2005 12:06 AM
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hero_of_the_day
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Life really isnt that important because every partner that joins your party comes with the life spell. Plus life can only be used to heal 1 party member. Cure can heal both members in one shot, even though it doesnt heal as much. Just out of curiousity would anyone here think it be more entertaining to fight the dark king normally (without cure)? It would be longer but not by more than a minute or so. The use of flare and white + the music is awsome, so maybe I should just forget about cure.
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Posted: 12/11/2005 6:21 AM
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hero_of_the_day
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I've made alot of progress, I am up to Pazuzu's Tower. Right now I am exactly 30 minutes ahead of the run at the SDA, all of this time comes from extreme luck manipulation and skipping almost every single chest in the game. The only things aquired so far is the exit spell and the white spell, everything else is skipped. On a side note, I stumbled upon some crazy glitch which allows me to have infinite seeds. The trick isnt really usefull to me but it is still interesting. Pay attention to the screen when I purchase the seeds from the old lady in windia. http://hstrial-nway1.homestead.com/files/mystic_quest.smv
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Posted: 12/11/2005 4:18 PM
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Mlandry
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hmm about killing the last boss normally, i wouldn"t mind either way. I would like the see the fight even if it isnt the absolute fastest way but a lot of people would probably disagree and say the fastest way is the best way. You can't please everyone on this so i guess the decision is yours
Posted: 12/11/2005 4:41 PM
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hero_of_the_day
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I think you are right Mlandry, alot of people would rather have it done the fastest way. I will probably end up using the cure spell because it should be faster, however I need to do some testing to see if it actually is. The cure spell is exactly 60 seconds out of my way once I enter focus tower, and with it I can shave 9 turns off the dark king battle. The question is, are those 9 turns more or less than a minute in length?
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Posted: 12/11/2005 7:01 PM
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Highness
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WTF!! How could you zoom over the moving sand in the first dungeon? I thought there wasn't anything else to learn in this game.
Posted: 12/14/2005 1:12 AM
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OmegaFlareX
Joined: 7/20/2004
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Wow, someone's actually revived this. To make a long story short, a lot of IRL shit went down since my last post here and it ended up with me getting hooked on World of Warcraft, which is still going strong. I check these forums maybe once a month. That game steals souls. Consider my run officially kaput. I don't have the time or the patience to make these anymore. Good luck to you Hero!
Posted: 12/14/2005 1:13 AM
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Bag_of_Magic_Food
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Yes you do!!!!!!!!! Just quit World of Warcraft.
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Posted: 12/14/2005 5:41 AM
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MovieWatcher
Joined: 12/13/2004
Posts: 103
Regain the control of your life.
Posted: 12/14/2005 7:11 PM
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hero_of_the_day
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Thanks OmegaFlareX. I actually learned alot about this game from your test run, without it I probably wouldn't have even considered running this game. I havent made much progress in the past few days, I need to manipulate Pazuzu to go to the sixth floor of his tower. For every frame which I test to see if he goes the the sixth floor, I have to engage in many minutes of battle. I will have some free time in a couple days so I hopefully the run will be done by sunday.
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Posted: 12/15/2005 8:04 PM
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Less_Ashamed_Of_Self
Joined: 6/4/2005
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Great music in that game.
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Posted: 12/16/2005 12:35 AM
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hero_of_the_day
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Yeah the boss theme and the dark king theme are truly classic. I just submited the final movie for all those who care.
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Posted: 12/14/2013 12:06 PM
Post subject: Starting from a non clear-SRAM state
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FFGamer86
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I was looking into doing an updated TAS of this game since route and strats have completely changed now and I want to utilize the glitch of the resistance bug. This bug makes the 2nd character's equipment be = to the character in the 2nd slot on the last loaded save file. If I do a movie record with clear SRAM it starts as if there is no save file and I can't utilize the resistance bug. Could I do a TAS that doesn't start from a clear SRAM and would it be defined as a different category then?
Posted: 12/14/2013 3:31 PM
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Derakon
Joined: 7/2/2007
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Would resistances even make a difference in the run? I don't remember the current run having any problems with enemy damage. If you want to do a run with "dirty" SRAM, then you have to submit two runs: one unoptimized one that sets up the savefile for you, and another optimized one that's the run itself that people will watch. The first one is needed to verify that the second one has a "legitimate" start. That said, I'm not convinced that the run you're suggesting doing would be well-differentiated from the current run. Feel free to provide a counterargument. :)
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Posted: 12/14/2013 8:35 PM
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FFGamer86
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Damage is also different with the resistance bug. It's called resistance bug because thats the most obvious thing transferred, but it transfers all Equipment bonuses over. Including evasion, strength, etc.
Posted: 12/14/2013 11:58 PM
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Patashu
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Would you be doing the resistance bug off of a file with substantial progress, or do you just need anything on it?
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Posted: 12/15/2013 1:15 AM
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ais523
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If you're starting off a file with substantial progress, it's a new game +, and that's not a category that TASvideos normally accepts.
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