This topic is for the purpose of discussing #779: fuzi2's SNES Prince of Persia in 34:41.38

Yes from me. There are some suboptimal areas, but I only spotted them because I've used manual brute force to get through the first few levels (i.e. trying every possible combination of movement to get to each forced position). That's why it's been taking so damn long for me to get this game recorded. Also, I'm lazy. Bleh. I doubt that anyone else will see anything wrong with this.

I'm going to have to vote no. I just can't see any point in doing the same game for three different systems with minimal differences. I thought the second one was one too many already. I feel the same way if someone would do a very good Super Mario All-stars or Mega Man Wily Wars. It might be harsh on your hard work, but that's what I think. Sorry.

Truncated, this one must obsolete the others then, because this game clearly looks better.

Minimal differences my arse.

I just watched it, i'm a fan of the game but of course i had to FF>> some parts because the moves were predictable. I don't see any room for improvement, if sprintgod can make this faster i'm impressed. Maybe i should watch the other prince of persia TAS's before suggesting this, but i think the original prince of persia looks too flat, this one is incredibly more polished. I'd prefer having this one on the site (i always did).

The only plausible explanation for the NES version is that it was made by three gibbons and a cheese grater. All copies of it should be burned, crushed and/or launched into space. I only bothered to record it because the existing TAS sucked more than the game itself. The Megadrive version has roughly the same content as the original PC version (with improved graphics), but it uses a different game engine with some annoying quirks. The SNES game engine seems to have been ported from the original, but so much stuff has been added and changed (mostly for the better) that it might as well be a sequel.

>Minimal differences my arse. I know you listed the differences elsewhere (it's here for anyone interested). I still find them minimal. You are still a prince caught in a dungeon trying to find your sword and get out and save the princess before time runs out. The moves are identical, the levels are nearly identical (there were some extra ones in the SNES version), the engine has some minor differences and the graphics are a bit prettier. Would you, for example, like to see Mega Drive versions of Mega Man 1, 2 and 3? The differences are about the same: same moves, same levels (with some additions), same engine with minor differences, and prettier graphics. I think no, and even so Mega Man games are a lot more popular than Prince of Persia games.

I'm going to agree with Sprint. This is my favorite version of the game. Compared to the terrible nes version, there are different bosses, better variety of levels (such level 10), and enough changes to qualify it for a good game for publication. These aren't simply minor changes: on the whole, it does indeed feel like playing an entirely different game.

And I watched the Mega Rock Man runs for Genesis anyway! So there!

13 of the 20 levels in the SNES version are entirely new. Levels 7, 8, 10, 11 and 12 of the original no longer exist. Any important events within these have been reimplemented in the new levels. The 7 levels that are based on originals have had sections added, removed, or altered to varying degrees. Especially level 9 (originally 6), which has been changed so much that only the first and last rooms are recognisable. In conclusion. Truncated should try watching recordings before commenting on them.

>In conclusion. Truncated should try watching recordings before commenting on them. That's quite presumptuous. I did watch the recording before commenting on it. And I always do. (What are you, a mind reader?) It felt a lot like more of the same thing as the other two, and to me not interesting enough to deserve a separate third publication. I fast-forwarded most of it. And anyway, most people seem to agree with you, so be happy about this game probably getting published on a third system instead. There's no need to be an ass about it. Or talking about me in third person as if what you wrote wasn't directed towards me.

So you "watched" it, yet didn't notice that around 80% of the game is different. What you're doing is tantamount to fastforwarding through Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade in 10 minutes, then claiming it's not worth watching because it's the same as the first two movies.

I just can't see any point in doing the same game for three different systems with minimal differences. I thought the second one was one too many already.

I haven't actually watched the run yet, but I personally think that having runs of the same game on different platforms is not a problem. The differences may be subtle, but there are people who have only played the SNES version, and so they would be most entertained by that video over the other platforms. The subtle differences in the game engine, for example, may confuse some who aren't familiar with the version. Plus, doesn't one of the existing Prince of Persia runs have some huge wall-jumping-through-glitch? Maybe this is PoP2. Anyway, I will get to watching this when I get back home in a few days.

This is my favorite version of the game, as well, and this run was entertaining to watch and looks optimal enough that I think it should be published (i.e. yes vote from me), but considering what he said I won't be surprised if SprintGod obsoletes this at some point.

Did a casual encode of this for documenting this in the Prince of Persia TASes Google sheet that we have in the PoP community. Figured I'd post it here as well in case someone wants to watch it without having to download the movie and a old version of snes9x. Link to video