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Oh, let's get on that topic.
Why oh why wasn't it pointed out then on MrWint's submission?
Instead we had a "discussion" about entertainment of the movie instead.
If it was pointed out during the submission in work it would've been adjusted that one frame (wow, one whole frame).
This piece of information was never brought up until this submission came up.
So let's add that to the pile of questions for specifically HappyLee to explain since he was "discussing" with MrWint that entire time.
HappyLee, why didn't you bother actually bringing up that the file axe grab was a frame off? If we knew about this we could've fixed it to the "prefered" ending frame of Super Mario Bros. but no, you hammed it in through majority of the "discussion" on that submission and never brought it up only until your own submission.
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Does it matter? It wasn't brought them, it was mentioned as an aside now. It doesn't make a difference to how this run is handled.
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HappyLee, why didn't you bother actually bringing up that the file axe grab was a frame off? If we knew about this we could've fixed it to the "prefered" ending frame of Super Mario Bros. but no, you hammed it in through majority of the "discussion" on that submission and never brought it up only until your own submission.
Simply because I didn't make a comparison video or actually calculated the frame result back then. I just knew that he saved 21+21+3 frames, and assumed that he ended the movie on the correct frame. Besides, isn't verifying a movie more like a judge's job? I'm not a judge, and I mainly watched MrWint's TAS on YouTube. I just found it when I was making the comparison video this time and noticed there's a 1 frame error. Did I do anything wrong?
Edit: Just noticed that you're the publisher of MrWint's movie. So let me ask you this, how could you not notice and write 46 frame improvement in the description text, when MrWint clearly wrote "saving 45 frames" in his submission text? And you're blaming me over this? Why should I be responsible for not noticing the frame off MrWint's movie, since it has nothing to do with the improvements?
Recent projects: SMB warpless TAS (2018), SMB warpless walkathon (2019), SMB something never done before (2019), Extra Mario Bros. (best ending) (2020).
You know what. I just noticed that edit you placed out.
HappyLee wrote:
Edit: Just noticed that you're the publisher of MrWint's movie.
What kind of statement are you trying to make?
I've Published and Reencoded all of SMB, or did you forget my final line when I said I'm claiming it?
Spikestuff wrote:
after all I have been the one who has reencoded all of Super Mario Bros..
HappyLee wrote:
So let me ask you this, how could you not notice and write 46 frame improvement in the description text, when MrWint clearly wrote "saving 45 frames" in his submission text?
Are you trying to ignore the fact that I'm a Publisher/Encoder to Super Mario Bros. not and I repeat not a TASer to the series? I don't TAS this bloody game. I TAS actual garbage games that isn't this cause I expand and not stick to my one-trick pony game.
I'd rather not, TAS a game that's already been optimized, and continues to be optimized, cause I'm not a bloody Newbie to TASVideos, like all those newcomers who's first thing they do is TAS Super Mario Bros. (Zelda or Metroid).
Do you want me to repeat that another few times on how I'm a Publisher/Encoder not a TASer to Super Mario Bros.? Cause I can do that for you.
HappyLee wrote:
And you're blaming me over this? Why should I be responsible for not noticing the frame off MrWint's movie, since it has nothing to do with the improvements?
Oh, you shall not try and make yourself on top of me after all the shit you gave MrWint.
I wrote exactly why I've blamed you over it in that same post you're trying to cover up, and you already know why.
It doesn't help that you're cherry-picking posts that you are wanting to read and going further with what sections of that posts you want to read/respond to.
Are you actually going to get back to feos' twoposts? (Especially, when you offhand acknowledge their existence.)
Are you actually going to get back to thecoreyburton's full post?
Cause you selectively either chose not to respond to it even though they have grounded points, and selected a single part (last part) of the entire point a person point.
(And yes, I just played your game of, but see my other posts for what I actually wrote about it already, cause I already made statements as to why.)
How scrutinizing do you want to be HappyLee? Because that was a very illogical edit you made mainly out of spite.
Let's not forget you requested for people after cancelling your submission for 2 days, out of pure "weakness" that you were feeling even though this TAS is, and still is dominating in Yes votes. You wanted responses from the Meh/No audiences and you got them.
When you got them, you double downed in degrading those who spoke of that who weren't entertained.
WebNations/Sabih wrote:
+fsvgm777 never censoring anything.
Disables Comments and Ratings for the YouTube account.Something better for yourself and also others.
So let me ask you this, how could you not notice and write 46 frame improvement in the description text, when MrWint clearly wrote "saving 45 frames" in his submission text?
Are you trying to ignore the fact that I'm a Publisher/Encoder to Super Mario Bros. not and I repeat not a TASer to the series? I don't TAS this bloody game.
Does it take a TASer to tell the difference between 46 and 45? BTW, I hate to mention that there was another obvious mistake in the text of MrWint's publication, which you fixed after I pointed it out. As an experienced publisher as you are, might need to be more careful next time.
I still have no idea why you blame me over this. I am a TASer of this game, but verifying TAS movies of others isn't my job, and I mainly watched MrWint's movie on YouTube.
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Come on, Spikestuff, you are better than this.
You were the one who kinda aggressively brought up that HappyLee forgot to mention MrWint's input end was 1 frame off. As if it was a huge deal that he didn't mention it, while it's literally the least relevant part of this discussion, and it wasn't even HappyLee's obligation to check that. As a Publisher, yes, you could (but you also didn't HAVE to) have checked what was the exact improvement, or if something had changed in the input end. It's not required to be an expert SMB TASer to do that.
Spikestuff wrote:
I don't TAS this bloody game. I TAS actual garbage games that isn't this cause I expand and not stick to my one-trick pony game.
I'd rather not, TAS a game that's already been optimized, and continues to be optimized, cause I'm not a bloody Newbie to TASVideos, like all those newcomers who's first thing they do is TAS Super Mario Bros. (Zelda or Metroid).
It's like you can't contain yourself and you have to implicitly attack HappyLee in every way you can, this time being pejorative about his choice of only TASing one game. This whole part of your post was absolutely unnecessary, I don't know why you made it about how you are an 'expanded' TASer that doesn't stick with a single game. I could as well say ''I TAS a game that is actually disputed and hard to optimize, instead of TASing a bunch of random garbage games with shit optimization because I know nobody will ever try to beat me on them.''.
The truth is however that there is no 'better' option of which pool of games you TAS, and I'm disappointed you brought this up in your argument.
