note to self: stop playing games with horrid controls
chancool recently found a skip in stage 3 that saves ~20sec in rta
in early 2016 joetronicx3 made a tas of this game/category before this skip was found
there's a chance this tas won't get accepted because of it being a shortened version of the game
but making this tas was actually rather tedious and i can assure you i will never play this game again
GAME OBJECTIVES:
become BigSimb
EMULATOR USED:
bizhawk 1.11.9.1
MOVIE OBJECTIVES:
fast
cub mode / easiest difficulty
ROLLING:
saves 5-10 frames
EXTRA JUMPING:
jumping in some areas can save just as many frames as rolling if not a couple extra
seems like there is a window you're able to obtain said couple extra frames
NOTES PER STAGE / CAN THIS TAS BE IMPROVED?:
STAGE 1: HELL
this stage is the end of man
for some reason my stage 1 did not go as planned :)
i did what i could and made it out alive
i'm 100% sure improvements can be made here
STAGE 2: FUN
i think i did a pretty good job at optimizing this stage
a lot of this stage is just an auto scroller
that being said this stage has some cool tricks in it imo
STAGE 3: RNG (skip notes)
it is rng if the hyenas will attack or be sleepy (fairly easy to manipulate)
2 hyenas need to get bopped to unlock the 2 corresponding doors
there is a possibility that the hyenas can be dealt with in a different way
aside that i think the optimizations here are pretty decent
skip happens at the top of the first (and now only) climb in this stage
the new skip is very straight forward.. just hit left at the correct time
this trick skips a nice sized chunk of the stage including 2 other climbs and a damage boost
nice work chancool for finding skip
STAGE 4: R-TYPE
this is a lagless autoscroller.. i think my strats are safe
THINGS YOU MIGHT WANT TO KNOW?:
in comparison to rta timing this turned out to be 3:00.9
surprisingly found no lag in this game thus no lag reduction of any kind needed
wouldn't be surprised if the human race decayed before seeing one prince mode tas or rta (yes, that is a challenge)
i was hoping to get sub 3 tas timing but you have to press A to start the credits.. rip
feos: This run only plays through the 4 levels that are available on the easy difficulty (Cub). The other 5 levels are only available on harder difficulties (Prince and King). Even though beating the Cub mode does give the credits, all the viewers agree that this 9-level game doesn't feel completed if one just reduces the challenge to make things easiest, and only beats less than a half of the game. This is the case when the easier difficulty setting isn't justified, so for any future submission of this game some other difficulty should be picked, to show the entire game. Judging by the FAQ though, King difficulty only reduces your health and increases enemies' health, so Prince mode would be enough here.
Played it on easy mode, and didn't even finish the game.
Yeah...
just to be sure
were you talking about yourself playing the game?
or criticizing my tas?
if you're criticizing then i'd like you to know that this tas does beat the game (on easy mode)
its not an easy mode and also incomplete tas submitted for publication
it is a complete playthrough of the cub mode difficulty which "doesn't finish the game" if you are to only compare it to the harder difficulties
this tas set at this difficulty spawns credits thus it does in fact finish the game
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Posts: 1978
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StarvinStruthers wrote:
it is a complete playthrough of the cub mode difficulty which "doesn't finish the game" if you are to only compare it to the harder difficulties
Bingo! Sure, we want to reach the end credits quickly, but going into a menu and selecting something that automatically chops off half the levels really isn't viewed as a legitimate method of achieving that goal. End credits or not, you've only completed half the game. We want to see all of it.
So yeah, no one's saying that your speedrun is bad. They just feel that it's incomplete and would like to see more.
(do note that do we have plenty of runs that skip very significant portions of the game to get to the end, but those are done through some more extraordinary methods aside from picking something in a menu)
A hundred years from now, they will gaze upon my work and marvel at my skills but never know my name. And that will be good enough for me.
it is a complete playthrough of the cub mode difficulty which "doesn't finish the game" if you are to only compare it to the harder difficulties
Bingo! Sure, we want to reach the end credits quickly, but going into a menu and selecting something that automatically chops off half the levels really isn't viewed as a legitimate method of achieving that goal. End credits or not, you've only completed half the game. We want to see all of it.
So yeah, no one's saying that your speedrun is bad. They just feel that it's incomplete and would like to see more.
(do note that do we have plenty of runs that skip very significant portions of the game to get to the end, but those are done through some more extraordinary methods aside from picking something in a menu)
i dont care what people think anymore
utilize the bk2 and make a prince mode tas or end the topic
being a broken record is not enjoyable
Joined: 11/13/2006
Posts: 2822
Location: Northern California
StarvinStruthers wrote:
im new here
dont know how stuff works
im only here because this is where people post their tas
its becoming very obvious thats all i'll be doing here
not going to spend much more time in these threads lol
not much fun when people constantly telling you what to do without being supportive in any way
Smartest new submitter I've seen. Not even being sarcastic.
If you want to keep your drive to TAS, don't even bother reading posts in submission threads from people without player scores, unless those people are named mklip2001 or Derakon, maybe a couple others I'm forgetting about. Most of the people who haunt submission threads with negativity and rule enforcement have never TASed and will never TAS, and thus they can safely be ignored since they don't know what the hell they're talking about. Submission threads generally get the highest volume of posters, which means they're going to be the most full of awful posters, so... Yeah, it may be a good idea to not take the threads too seriously. The best, most constructive and supportive feedback you're going to get is either in a game thread or just asking a TASer directly, with the latter being far more likely.
Some of the site rules are badly explained and/or archaic, and I don't blame you or anyone else for not knowing or disagreeing with the rule that an easier difficulty cannot be used if it truncates the length of a game. The rule is referenced infrequently enough that Easy difficulty runs that skip content have been accepted and published before, and have had to be obsoleted by slightly less optimal harder difficulty runs in order to correct the mistake. I was a Judge for long enough to have memorized all the bad rules and the five good ones that I agree with, so if you're concerned about any upcoming submission of yours, you can always shoot me a PM and I'll answer any questions/concerns you might have.
It sucks that this happened and that you got such a negative reaction out of it, but yeah please just ignore the assholes in the submission threads. There are plenty of people willing to give constructive and supportive feedback, sometimes they're just few and far between with all the awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful posters around here. Just don't let it get to you and keep TASing for as long as you're having fun with it. You've been making quality runs of underappreciated games (which are my absolute favorite things to see on the Workbench) and the site would lose something if you stopped submitting.
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Now infrequently posting on BlueskywarmCabin wrote:
You shouldn't need a degree in computer science to get into this hobby.
im new here
dont know how stuff works
im only here because this is where people post their tas
its becoming very obvious thats all i'll be doing here
not going to spend much more time in these threads lol
not much fun when people constantly telling you what to do without being supportive in any way
Smartest new submitter I've seen. Not even being sarcastic.
If you want to keep your drive to TAS, don't even bother reading posts in submission threads from people without player scores, unless those people are named mklip2001 or Derakon, maybe a couple others I'm forgetting about. Most of the people who haunt submission threads with negativity and rule enforcement have never TASed and will never TAS, and thus they can safely be ignored since they don't know what the hell they're talking about. Submission threads generally get the highest volume of posters, which means they're going to be the most full of awful posters, so... Yeah, it may be a good idea to not take the threads too seriously. The best, most constructive and supportive feedback you're going to get is either in a game thread or just asking a TASer directly, with the latter being far more likely.
Some of the site rules are badly explained and/or archaic, and I don't blame you or anyone else for not knowing or disagreeing with the rule that an easier difficulty cannot be used if it truncates the length of a game. The rule is referenced infrequently enough that Easy difficulty runs that skip content have been accepted and published before, and have had to be obsoleted by slightly less optimal harder difficulty runs in order to correct the mistake. I was a Judge for long enough to have memorized all the bad rules and the five good ones that I agree with, so if you're concerned about any upcoming submission of yours, you can always shoot me a PM and I'll answer any questions/concerns you might have.
It sucks that this happened and that you got such a negative reaction out of it, but yeah please just ignore the assholes in the submission threads. There are plenty of people willing to give constructive and supportive feedback, sometimes they're just few and far between with all the awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful posters around here. Just don't let it get to you and keep TASing for as long as you're having fun with it. You've been making quality runs of underappreciated games (which are my absolute favorite things to see on the Workbench) and the site would lose something if you stopped submitting.
well you get the award for the coolest stranger on this website
thank you for your words
i have a few tas buddies i can come to with questions but i felt i had been bugging them lol
thus i started posting in these threads in hopes for more answers/support (bad idea)
so thank you again and if i have any questions i will shoot you a message :)
also i hope you like my next submission
i'm about 1/4 done with it
its a long one
PS - i still want this tas to be able to be viewed publicly
for the prince mode taser that everyone seems to think is right around the corner
throwing this submission in the dumpster isn't really what i was going for
how do i go about making this a resource for people via this website?
or is leaving it here the best i can do?
PS - i still want this tas to be able to be viewed publicly
for the prince mode taser that everyone seems to think is right around the corner
throwing this submission in the dumpster isn't really what i was going for
how do i go about making this a resource for people via this website?
or is leaving it here the best i can do?
I would suggest making a thread for this game in the Game Boy Games board (or bumping it if one already exists) and linking the input file and an encode of the TAS there.
PS - i still want this tas to be able to be viewed publicly
for the prince mode taser that everyone seems to think is right around the corner
throwing this submission in the dumpster isn't really what i was going for
how do i go about making this a resource for people via this website?
or is leaving it here the best i can do?
I would suggest making a thread for this game in the Game Boy Games board (or bumping it if one already exists) and linking the input file and an encode of the TAS there.
word! thank you i will try and get that started up
would it work for me to just post feos youtube link in the thread?
