Post subject: Grammar question. Names ending in s, apostrophe or not
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Hi, guys! I have a grammar question I hope you might help me with. I'm working on a new novel and is currently contemplating about the title. The title of my novel is "Kings Hope". And here starts my predicament. Kings Hope is the name of a casino in Sweden. Hence it's a Swedish name, although with an English spelling. My question is: Is it spelled "Kings Hope" or "King's Hope"? I have not been able to find a great answer on google. Thanks in advance! /Hans
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It would be 'King's Hope', since it's not referring to multiple kings.
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Ah, so if it were several kings, it would be without an apostrophe. Cool! I've learned something new. Thank you very much!
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I thought the question would be about whether the possessive of proper names ending in S should use a single apostrophe or an apostrophe and an S. In other words, should it be eg. Fitts's Law or Fitts' Law. The most common consensus is that with proper names, 's should be used regardless of whether the name ends in S or not. With common nouns only the apostrophe ought to be used. Thus it's properly workers' rights but Fitts's Law. Your question doesn't seem to apply to this, though. Unless "Kings" is supposed to be plural, in which case it would be Kings' Hope. If it's supposed to be singular, then obviously King's Hope.
Ah, so if it were several kings, it would be without an apostrophe.
No, it would be Kings' Hope.
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That makes sense. Thank you.
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Warp wrote:
The most common consensus is that with proper names, 's should be used regardless of whether the name ends in S or not. With common nouns only the apostrophe ought to be used.
The actual consensus is that 's should be used for all singular nouns, whether they end in s or not (like kudos's or Lewis's or OS's), and also for plural nouns that don't end in s (like children's); with plural nouns that end in s, only the apostrophe should be used (like systems' or the Lewises'). Another common consensus is that the apostrophe should not be used to pluralize a word, not even an initialism (CDs), nor to refer to a time period (like the 1900s, but it may indicate omission of a leading part of a date, like the '90s).
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arflech wrote:
Warp wrote:
The most common consensus is that with proper names, 's should be used regardless of whether the name ends in S or not. With common nouns only the apostrophe ought to be used.
The actual consensus is that 's should be used for all singular nouns, whether they end in s or not (like kudos's or Lewis's or OS's), and also for plural nouns that don't end in s (like children's); with plural nouns that end in s, only the apostrophe should be used (like systems' or the Lewises'). Another common consensus is that the apostrophe should not be used to pluralize a word, not even an initialism (CDs), nor to refer to a time period (like the 1900s, but it may indicate omission of a leading part of a date, like the '90s).
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