Again, I tell you, pick up the emulator and do what’s written there. The move won’t come out.
Why do you keep blabbling your stupid mouth when you clearly have NEVER touched the game?
arandomgameTASer wrote:
I realize that you're baiting everyone by pretending to be retarded, I do get that.
I’m not baiting anyone, and the only retard here is you. Did you notice how TASeditor’s post was actually useful, and provided a source for the wrong notation? Meanwhile, what are you doing? Throwing insults at me, saying I’m wrong on things YOU NEVER EVEN TRIED TO DO YOURSELF, and derailing the thread. Can you please stop talking about shit you have no idea about?
Edit: TASeditor: The problem is not how to read the notation, I already know the notation legend. I’ve said it before– get the emulator and do what’s written there. The move won’t come out. Edit: And you wanna know why? Because notations that work for human play at 60fps are not granted to work at frame-by-frame, TAS level precision. Which makes any existing notation outside of TASing pointless, because a TAS would have to do it differently anyway (in certain cases, such as this one).
That’s not “moving”, that’s a forward dash. By the way, the “while moving” was added by you, what the Tekken site means with “f,F+1+4” is: forward, blank, forward (held), 1+4. Look up what the comma “,” means in the notation legend. The F+1+4 on the same frame is plain wrong (as that will result in a punch). These are things players playing at 60fps and not having frame-by-frame tools at their disposal thought the move was like, but it’s not.
By the way, your notation of “moving” can be read by any aspiring TASer to mean any of the millions of following possibilities:
b,b,f,F+1+4 – Which does not work.
u,b,f,F+1+4 – Which does not work.
Etc. All these inputs are “while moving” before doing the f,F+1+4 motion. What you’re looking for is “while in a forward dash”. Why are you so stubborn? Edit: Oh and by the way you only need to write down the move as F+1+4 if you make a note of “while in a forward dash”.
Also:
ALAKTORN wrote:
Thanks for the link, but the notation being on some website online doesn’t stop it from being wrong.
I didn't know you were dropped on your head.
I'm not going to bother going through all the other junk you wrote, well except for one which I'll mention in a bit. When it's someone doesn't even know that it's a .cue file which is required to run Octoshock not a .bin file, or even understand what input drop is.
ALAKTORN wrote:
need to write down the move as F+1+4 if you make a note of “while in a forward dash”.
That's still wrong. don't forget, we tap our input. f,F+1+4.
WebNations/Sabih wrote:
+fsvgm777 never censoring anything.
Disables Comments and Ratings for the YouTube account.Something better for yourself and also others.
I’ll ignore your attempts at being insulting. Also, thanks for not even giving the name of the Kuma OHKO move. Not that it matters now, I remembered the site shows move damage.
Spikestuff wrote:
ALAKTORN wrote:
need to write down the move as F+1+4 if you make a note of “while in a forward dash”.
That's still wrong. don't forget, we tap our input. f,F+1+4.
It’s not wrong. It says you need to do a forward dash before it, which means: “f, blank, f”. After that, you can just do F+1+4. So I don’t see where my notation is wrong, it isn’t.
Edit: You’re right, “F+1+4 (while in a forward dash)” is still wrong. (You admitted your own notation was wrong by saying “still”, btw.) You need to be holding forward from the dash input, so f,blank,f,F+1+4 works, but f,blank,f,blank,F+1+4 doesn’t. I’m trying to think of a proper notation atm. Could just use the whole thing f,blank,f,F+1+4 like I said in the first place, though. That’s what the move amounts to, anyway; you have to make a dash and either do 1+4 frame perfectly or hold down the Forward from the dash input and do 1+4 at your leisure.
Yeah, the fact that aspiring TASers could read our posts and try the move out for themselves, and it not coming out because of the notation being wrong, sure is just a problem in my head. It’s not actually an intelligent attempt at being accessible to future TASers, no.
Considering this is the only notation that always works and can’t be made wrong, I’ll consider it official: f,blank,f,F+1+4.
This doesn't actually matter. You're arguing over something that isn't important at all.
-The way that Spike wrote it is recognizable to anyone familiar with Tekken.
-You admitted in the other thread you weren't familiar to Tekken so you prefer a different notation.
-They both get the information across to people who want to know, and if someone doesn't understand what Spike's means, they can find out very easily.
-Arguing over this is actually pointless. Stop telling people that they're wrong when the information is interchangeable.
This doesn't actually matter. You're arguing over something that isn't important at all.
-The way that Spike wrote it is recognizable to anyone familiar with Tekken.
-You admitted in the other thread you weren't familiar to Tekken so you prefer a different notation.
-They both get the information across to people who want to know, and if someone doesn't understand what Spike's means, they can find out very easily.
-Arguing over this is actually pointless. Stop telling people that they're wrong when the information is interchangeable.
^All of this. This seriously needs to stop ALAKTORN. You're being a complete asshole to everyone just to try to prove that you're right.
effort on the first draft means less effort on any draft thereafter
- some loser
This doesn't actually matter. You're arguing over something that isn't important at all.
Wrong. Reading up on information trying to learn, and coming out of it with something that may not work, is not good.
Raelcun wrote:
-The way that Spike wrote it is recognizable to anyone familiar with Tekken.
Wrong. It’s recognizable to people playing 60fps real time Tekken, not to people trying to TAS the game and optimizing it.
Raelcun wrote:
-You admitted in the other thread you weren't familiar to Tekken so you prefer a different notation.
Wow, I guess only people familiar with Tekken should be allowed to TAS it, huh? Fuck everyone who’s not in our circlejerk and can’t understand our cool notations!
Raelcun wrote:
-They both get the information across to people who want to know, and if someone doesn't understand what Spike's means, they can find out very easily.
Wrong. If it weren’t for your video demonstration in that other thread, I wouldn’t have understood how to do the move at all.
Raelcun wrote:
-Arguing over this is actually pointless. Stop telling people that they're wrong when the information is interchangeable.
Wrong. Removing ambiguity when giving out information is all but pointless. I would never want you as teacher of anything if you actually believe that.
I really think it's only you who has a problem transforming this notation into frame by frame inputs.
When you really want to make a notation for TASing for new TASers, isn't that in contrast to being able to figuring out things themself. Aren't TASers supposed to be "intelligent", being able to look at recourses and apply them into TASes? Heh
And here is how it's done in TAS:
