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Posted: 7/8/2014 8:32 AM
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About the cutscenes, in the original retail edition of Abe's Exoddus, if you play the game without the CD2 which contains all the movie and level files, you can play the game without the cut scenes if you let the installer copy the level files across. Because I use the steam version, I have to manually remove the cut scene files. It works on Oddysee as well!
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Posted: 7/8/2014 12:16 PM
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So, if removing part of the game to speed up the run is not ilegal, do you think it will be okay to use the cheat to advance to disc2? It won't give me any advantage, I just need to jump on a well to advance to disc 2, but the emulator hangs. I can time the use of the cheat to happen at the same time I would normally advance, will it be allowed?
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Posted: 7/8/2014 12:59 PM
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Dooty wrote:
So, if removing part of the game to speed up the run is not ilegal, do you think it will be okay to use the cheat to advance to disc2? It won't give me any advantage, I just need to jump on a well to advance to disc 2, but the emulator hangs. I can time the use of the cheat to happen at the same time I would normally advance, will it be allowed?
I don't think its possible to do that on the PSX version. It only works on PC.
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Posted: 7/8/2014 4:31 PM
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Sorry, I was not clear enough. I mean the cheat to advance to disc2, not the FMVs. If I jump on the well and hold R1 and press Circle, Circle, X, X, Square, Square I can swap discs without crashing the emulator. I just want to know if the run will be rejected because of this cheat. I'll include it on my last WIP and I'll ask a judge if it's allowed.
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Posted: 7/8/2014 4:37 PM
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Give Feos a chance to see the topic at least before debating whither to allow the cheat or not?
Posted: 7/8/2014 5:44 PM
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Hey, something good happened; using the cheat to advance at the same frame also crashed the emulator. So, I waited some time to swap the discs and no crash at all! I'm sorry for all the trouble, the first possible frame is not the best frame in this game... I'll post a new WIP as soon as I find the fastest frame to swap discs, or as soon as beat a stage on disc 2, to be sure it will not crash again.
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Posted: 7/8/2014 6:34 PM
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Nice fix Dooty!
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Posted: 7/8/2014 6:41 PM
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/me sees himself pinged. /me browses through the thread... Does the problem solve itself if you do the disc swap normally, just another frame?
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Posted: 7/8/2014 6:50 PM
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Yes, it does, I dont even need to wait too much frames, I just need to swap the discs during a frame of lag for some reason. edit: here's the ne WIP, up to Zulags. I think it won't crash anymore; http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1688340815/movie.pxm
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Posted: 7/9/2014 9:15 PM
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I an loving your WIP Dooty! You have gave me some ideas I can do in my next Segemented run! Keep it up! I am in the process of uploading an encode! Check this out! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJcramXXOWg&feature=youtu.be
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Posted: 7/11/2014 1:39 AM
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Thank you for the encode. It's good to know that it is working on other computers too. So, here's a new WIP, up to Zulag #2, full of new strategies. Some will be useful in real time I think; http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1337506892/movie.pxm
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Posted: 7/11/2014 7:26 AM
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Dooty wrote:
Thank you for the encode. It's good to know that it is working on other computers too. So, here's a new WIP, up to Zulag #2, full of new strategies. Some will be useful in real time I think; http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1337506892/movie.pxm
It's actually Hub 2! Not Zulag 2. In Exoddus there are 3 hubs with Zulags. Edit: YouTube link! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Irsr99llpNE&feature=youtu.be
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Posted: 7/12/2014 5:36 PM
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Samlaptop wrote:
It's actually Hub 2! Not Zulag 2.
Um... now that makes sense. Having Zulags inside another one was weird. By the way, a new trick, very small, but it will save some time I'm sure; to lure the Slogs you don't need to throw the bones, just hold Circle for two frames and it will keep them busy long enough. Well, I know that this run would be slower than the PC version, but I'm almost five minutes behind already!
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Posted: 7/12/2014 7:45 PM
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Well I'm making a segmented run Dooty and I'm stuck in one particular part in the Mudomo Vauls. I'm in the door with the small part and the wells. I'm trying to do the new trick you do with the Paramites. I do the same things you do and I have success sometimes but not all the time.
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Posted: 7/13/2014 4:32 PM
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I wish you good luck! The run is done, but looks like something's wrong; http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/16003084596834310 It advances to the bad ending, but Abe dies on the background after the cutscene. Is it normal? Does it also happens on the PC version?
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Posted: 7/13/2014 5:08 PM
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On the PC version, you enter the last portal and Abe doesn't die, it just goes to the ending screen and you can't get out of it.
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Posted: 7/13/2014 9:02 PM
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So, in both cases I don't think it really completes the game. We may be missing something. Anyway, I'm working on the submission text and the run will be submitted soon. Thank you.
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Posted: 7/16/2014 12:55 AM
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Nice work Dooty; looking forward to the 300 Muds saved run.
Posted: 9/16/2014 9:23 AM
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Since the 100% run is going to be a very large project, I have decided I'm going to make a start and do some secrets in the Mines. I will need some volunteers here to help me in this TAS. Once I TASed some tunnels in Necrum, I'll post a WIP here.
Enjoys speedrunning, playing and TASing Oddworld games! Has TASed: Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty) Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty) Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty) Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65 Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18 Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15 Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07 Currently working on: Waiting for Windows TAS Tools to work so I can TAS PC version of Exoddus.
Posted: 9/27/2014 9:12 PM
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Secret area 1 done in Tunnel 1. This TAS will definitely beat my PC version 100% Segmented in 2:38:50! http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1972387723/Samlaptop%20Exoddus%20100%25%20WIP%201.pxm
Enjoys speedrunning, playing and TASing Oddworld games! Has TASed: Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty) Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty) Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty) Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65 Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18 Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15 Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07 Currently working on: Waiting for Windows TAS Tools to work so I can TAS PC version of Exoddus.
Posted: 9/27/2014 9:31 PM
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Nice. Lovely to see the 100% get off the ground.
Posted: 9/28/2014 4:06 PM
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Tunnel 1 is done. Managed to get the same Mudokon AI as Dooty's at the end of Tunnel 1. I'll keep posting WIP's every time I complete a stage. http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1731431816/Samlaptop%20Exoddus%20100%25%20WIP%202.pxm
Enjoys speedrunning, playing and TASing Oddworld games! Has TASed: Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty) Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty) Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty) Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65 Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18 Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15 Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07 Currently working on: Waiting for Windows TAS Tools to work so I can TAS PC version of Exoddus.
Posted: 9/28/2014 5:11 PM
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Just finished Tunnel 2. http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1272314701/Samlaptop%20Exoddus%20100%25%20WIP%203.pxm
Enjoys speedrunning, playing and TASing Oddworld games! Has TASed: Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty) Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty) Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty) Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65 Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18 Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15 Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07 Currently working on: Waiting for Windows TAS Tools to work so I can TAS PC version of Exoddus.
Posted: 9/28/2014 6:16 PM
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Here is my fourth WIP. I have sent it to Dooty because I am having trouble getting passed those Slogs. So hopefully Dooty will send me a successful WIP. http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1269491934/Samlaptop%20Exoddus%20100%25%20WIP%204.pxm
Enjoys speedrunning, playing and TASing Oddworld games! Has TASed: Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty) Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty) Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty) Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65 Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18 Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15 Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07 Currently working on: Waiting for Windows TAS Tools to work so I can TAS PC version of Exoddus.
Posted: 9/29/2014 5:33 PM
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Tunnel 3 is done with Dooty's nice touch! Dooty now becomes an author to the project! http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/69864410/Samlaptop%20and%20Dooty%27s%20Exoddus%20100%25%20WIP%205.pxm
Enjoys speedrunning, playing and TASing Oddworld games! Has TASed: Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty) Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty) Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty) Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65 Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18 Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15 Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07 Currently working on: Waiting for Windows TAS Tools to work so I can TAS PC version of Exoddus.
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