This topic is for the purpose of discussing #1424: chupapi's NES A Nightmare on Elm Street "4 Players" in 16:15.75

This is one of the greatest efforts put into a TAS I have ever seen! It's interesting to see one person control not 2, not 3, but 4 players! It doesn't look that bad with the lag and all, aside from that it seemed optimized to a good extent (having 4 characters can hold progressing through the level back, I assume and have seen). I liked how you made them look like they had to work together, that really ups the entertainment value. A definite yes vote and congratulations on really improving your Tool-Assisted Superplaying, you've done great work.

After what, half a year of deafening silence you suddenly submit it? :D Congrats on the first 4-player TAS ever!

Hehe, this came as a surprise. Let me start by saying that I enjoyed watching this, and I found it very entertaining. Now to some feedback on the run itself: Generally, this run was of high quality. Knowing the game well, I couldn't spot any major mistakes that cost you time. On the other hand, it was hard keeping track of everything that went on, with 4 players running around. :P Not to mention how impressed I am that you actually managed to produce a 4 player TAS. I am very, very impressed by that. You also managed to create art without wasting time, such as jumping in different patterns before and after a boss. That looked nice. There were some small mistakes I could spot, such as walking instead of jumping down edges, and not using the "jump through roof" trick I use I my run. All in all, the lack of these small details cost about 2-3 seconds at most, I think. Another small complaint is the obvious lag. I am fully aware that you tried to minimize it, but even so, this 4 player run suffers from immense lag... It makes the run a little too slow. Do I think that this should be published? Yes, it being an impressive, entertaining and well done movie. However, I don't think that this should obsolete My run, because my run is 6172 frames (102.87 seconds) faster. I think that this should be published alongside the 1-player run. EDIT: Oh, and I voted Yes, of course. :)

Very very cool. Noticeable lag, but i guess that's to be expected. Congratulations man. Yes vote here.

Supoib!

I am very glad to see you make an improved version of this run. And almost 3 minutes faster! :) This was ver enjoyable to watch despite the heavy lag. I especially like how you went out of your way to make interesting pattern and designs in their movements. I suspect that theoretically, this run could be improved by about 30sec though in reailty it would probably be extremely difficult to optimize completely. I still think the run will be improved someday but this run is high enough quality and very entertaining. I will be accepting this for publication. Randil: No, this won't obsolete the 1p run unless an improved run was actually faster than it (which I doubt is possible). It will go along side it much like 1p & 2p runs of the same game.

Thanks for your comments and your votes, this is the kind of thing that pays off the effort of doing the movie. I would love to see this movie improved some day, i did my best but im sure it can be upgraded. One problem i got while doing it, is that, if you make a mistake and don't notice it soon, you'll end up having to start over again, because if you add or subtract even a little piece of movement, you lose the whole work, believe me, i tried it. let's see what happens with this version! i hope it gets published, and if it doesn't, at least you all enjoyed it, and that's enough for me.

Lot of lags, it can't be helped, but 4 characters controlled at once is amazing. Yes vote.

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This movie was nuts.. I kind of liked the synchronized bouncing around, and seeing all characters have a purpose was nice :)

Wow. :) Thanks for that. So entertaining.

I enjoyed it, but there seemed to be so many places where you took damage and it appeared avoidable and didn't seem to save any time. That's my only real gripe, however, good job! That must've been a nightmare to make (no pun intended).

I enjoyed it, but there seemed to be so many places where you took damage and it appeared avoidable and didn't seem to save any time. That's my only real gripe, however, good job! That must've been a nightmare to make (no pun intended).

yes, sometimes i took damage on propose to avoid further problems with this and that enemy, but you need to look at it slowly to see it more clearly.

Is there any way to calculate the time of the movie without the lag?

Is there any way to calculate the time of the movie without the lag?

Sure. watch the movie in frame advance with windows calculator open. Add 1 every time the screen doesn't update for a frame. Afterwards, subtract that number from the movie's frame count, and divide the result by 60 for the number of seconds.

The YouTube Link only includes the first 10 minutes (part 1). You should add the second part too, don't forget.

Now that all of our emulators have fancy lag counters (living in The Future is nice!), can somebody answer my previous question?

It shouldn't be hard to do this with a lua script, even without a lag counter. It sounds interesting enough for me to perhaps do it when I get home. On a related note, does anyone know if it is possible to fetch this lag counter value with a lua command? EDIT: I think I'm a little confused now - does the latest FCEUX have this lag counter? Or are we talking about Mednafen or something?