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Vatchern wrote:
Though i would have to print off all the suggestions Angerfist made
If you got any questions regarding your own thoughts or my suggestions, just ask :) Hell if nobody soon tries improving these runs, I would try it myself....
Nitrogenesis wrote:
Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
Cooljay wrote:
Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
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Kopernical should do both since he obviously has much more knowledge and skill than me.. But as I said, if it takes toooo long these nobody improves them, then I'mwould give it a shot.
*Waiting for kopernical, Bisqwit and others to comment on my suggestions for Megaman 4*
Damnit Bag, its not freaking MeggerMen! Stop teasing him.
Nitrogenesis wrote:
Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
Cooljay wrote:
Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
haha.. I actually think Meggerman sounds cooler then megaman! And, yes, i agree that Anger should do MM4 while i do MM3.. And if any of us has trouble, then.... we suck... :P
Is it possible to keep BrightMan from ever using his Flash Stopper on you?
You can if you're using the Mega Buster but not if you're using Rain Flush. Besides, I think it's cool getting hit as soon as he does it so it doesn't freeze me.
AngerFist wrote:
*Waiting for kopernical, Bisqwit and others to comment on my suggestions for Megaman 4*
I'm going to have to watch it first cause in a lot of places I'm not sure what you're referring too.
MegaMan makes it sound like he's a million men, while RockMan makes it sound like he's made out of rock. I guess MegaRockMan makes it sound like he's made out of a million rocks. Anyway, I like to watch the TV show and obnoxiously sing "Meggerman!" slightly out of time with the theme song.
kopernical wrote:
You can if you're using the Mega Buster but not if you're using Rain Flush. Besides, I think it's cool getting hit as soon as he does it so it doesn't freeze me.
Hmm, really? So it depends on when you shoot at him or something like that? I thought you could always manipulate luck just by pressing different buttons.
put yourself in my rocketpack if that poochie is one outrageous dude
The thing with Megaman 4 is that it may have a undiscovered glitch with the Balloon.
I played with it a little bit, never had any luck. Maybe somebody else can figure out if its possible.
>00:26 - You did a wonderful thing, namely that you could actually slide under those scorpions :)
I did it the one time just cause I wanted to. But its hard to tell when you stop sliding or even if this is faster at all. Frame counter on FCEU would make this easier.
>01:05 - I was thinking if its even useful to stand a bit further on those flying robots in order to reach to the next on faster?
Maybe. Maybe even not sliding also.
>02:49 - I got the feeling that you might have grabbed the ladder some frames to soon right?
Yes.
>03:38 - I'll bet that you've already tried to see if works to simply walk through that big robot. And a suggestion here would be that you here choosed Pharaoh armor to get quicker through him. I know you end with just one shot left of Pharaoh but there might be a solution to that below here :)
I don't understand what you mean here.
>03:17 - Notice how you charge your Pharaoh armor, thus your armors health decreases, which might not be necessary due the forthcoming lag at this stage and seeing no need to hit those enemies.
I did it to prevent lag, yes, but ended up causing some in the process. Frame counter again will help determine which is faster.
>03:28 - If you paus here, can you see the thing Im seeing, namely that you might are 1-2 frames off to the left? You should be able to be 1-2 frames at right here.
Yeah, I know. I do this a lot.
>03:51 - Is it necessary to hit these enemies? Are you hitting them to avoid lag?
No and no. Just thought it looked better than running through.
>05:25 - Don't charge, because my theory is that you would only create more lag, either shoot a fast Pharaoh shot or simply avoid hitting him.
Same as above. Laggy either way.
>05:44 - Excellent done all the way through those rocks!
One of the toughest parts of the entire movie.
>07:50 - Release yourself from the ladder, jump at the near edge, and continue climbing. Agreed?
Yes.
>09:37 - I think you should be able to slide on your Balloon right? If so, then by doing a quick slide and a jump could reslut in avoiding getting hit here.
Have to take the hit to get past it. But I just threw that in cause I thought it was kinda cool. Using regular weapon all the way through this level is the fastest way.
>11:26 - I just realized that you can actually skip your regular armor and use your Balloon here.. You must agree with me that you can use Balloon 2/3 of this stage and by using Ballon, I just know you might save seconds doing it.
I don't think so. You'll get two screens of usage out of it because screens 3 and 4 you're not going to be able to get past with balloon selected unless you take hits. You need to kill some of those enemies.
>12:04 try avoid hitting unnecessary enemies (besides from the obvious falling rocks),
Just killed them cause I could. Don't think it's faster or slower either way.
>12:49 - Great boss battle besides from only 2 questions, 1: why did you took a hit at 12:49?
Laziness. I'll admit it ;-) Drill Man is the worst thing in the game to do cause it is such a pain to keep him from diving into the ground and to continuously hit him with that stupid Dive Missile. I didn't want to redo it.
>2: At: 12:53, do you agree with me that due to you are facing away from him, you are losing some frames until your shot reaches him? If you'd simply facing him, I believe that your shot would actually hit him faster.
Dive Missile is such a pain to use. Sometimes you can be facing what you want to shoot and it will ignore it and go on a 5 second detour. It that situation that was the fastest way to hit him.
>Toad Man Level<
Well well, nothing improvable here ^_^
Heh, actually there is, but I didn't do it for my own reasons. It meant removing one of my favorite parts :-) I'll give you a hint, do Toad Man last.
>16:10 - I would you to at this stage begin to press upwards so you can reduce some frames and to be able to jump higher on the ladder.
16:44 - Got the impression that you might have been some frames after to push upwards.
I didn't do it cause going up slightly slows forward movement. Might be slower, might be faster. Frame counter will help.
>16:59 - Would sliding be faster to reach to the next floor thingy and to the next etc? I think it might be the case.
I don't know.
>19:06 - Im most certain that using Balloon here, instead of using Rush Jet would be faster as you can pretty much easily use it further, right?
20:22 - Here I have a big and sweet idea to you :) Lets say you'll use Balloon instead of Rush Jet already here. Couple of frames would probably be saved here and further.
That was something else I wanted to do; not get any refills unless they were absolutely necessary. That just screams efficiency :-) But if you're going for absolute speed then, yes, using Balloon a lot more would be best.
>20:28 - Useful using Balloon here and I know that enemy above might hit but cant you with the tightest and accuracy use Balloon on the left side aswell to avoid getting hit from him?
You can't avoid that hit.
20:36 - Here comes my big idea.. How about using Balloon at this stage and while sliding on your own Balloons (if its possible sliding on your own Balloons, if not my idea still should work) you can reach to the nearest armor refill (and as you already know, each time you use Balloon only 1 armor health is used), take it and continue with your high speed making Balloons, most probably you don't need to take the second armor refill if you'd used Balloon and Im quite positive you would have made it to the ladder with Balloons.
It's a long way to go. I don't know if it will work or not. Read above for why I didn't give it a try. Also, Balloon takes 2 energy not 1, so you'll have to get both refills.
>21:45 but maybe, just maybe you can actually do it if its possible here to NOT jump that high and possibly doing a extremely quick jump afterwards to hit him again. Sounds pretty far-fetched, I know.
I don't think so. I hit him at the earliest point every time.
>23:18 - Balloon kopernical ^_^ You'd with Balloon gain a very high height and grabbing the ladder on near topp of the screen. While you'd picked Balloon, you could have used it at: 23:23 right? Here you can reach the topp of the ladder with Balloons.
Have to wait for the screen to completely scroll before it lets you continue up, so it's not much faster. And when you factor in the weapon switch it's actually slower.
>23:42 - That refill was surely not necessary was it? As it slows you and your overall time down.
It's necessary if you want to use Ring on all the bosses that are weak to it. Ring takes one energy to use, you start with 28. I use 7 on Cossack 1 boss, 7 on Wily 2 boss, 7 on Dust Man and 10 on the first form of Wily. That leaves you 3 short. You could try using another weapon to finish off one of them, but you still have to do something about those spiky robots in the non scrolling screen. You can't jump over them and regular weapon doesn't hurt them.
>24:45 - Here I felt you hesistated, why?
I'm charging up up a large Pharoah. It's slightly faster than shooting 3 more small ones.
25:22 - Wonder if you'd jump here you would go down faster?
Maybe.
>27:27 - Now I wonder it would be efficient using Balloon at this stage until 27:51? As i think it would be hard using Balloon during the water stage.
Probably not. Using Balloons with the Metools active on the screen would be really laggy.
>28:12 - Balloon would be better as you would get much better height to reach the topp left nearest ladder.
28:17 - Same thing here.
Yes. Again, I didn't want to refill Balloon.
>28:20 - Didn't you grab the ladder a bit to soon?
Probably
>28:52 - Why didn't you shoot again? He did not blink at this stage.
It'll bounce off. You can only get 4 hits on him the first time he opens.
>30:26 - Can you jump from here? Since when I paused at this stage, I could se that you were for a split second moving (i.e walking) forward which should enable you to jump on the ladder.
I was never able to do it.
>31:56 - Faster if you jumped to get down faster?
Probably
Bag of Magic Food wrote:
Hmm, really? So it depends on when you shoot at him or something like that? I thought you could always manipulate luck just by pressing different buttons.
Seems that way. At least that's the only way I had luck doing it.
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kopernical wrote:
>03:38 - I'll bet that you've already tried to see if works to simply walk through that big robot. And a suggestion here would be that you here choosed Pharaoh armor to get quicker through him. I know you end with just one shot left of Pharaoh but there might be a solution to that below here :)
I don't understand what you mean here.
I simply mean that could you have slided+jumped through him instead of using Balloon?
kopernical wrote:
I played with it a little bit, never had any luck. Maybe somebody else can figure out if its possible.
I think you need alot of patience to be successful.
kopernical wrote:
Frame counter on FCEU would make this easier.
Are you saying that you are going to compare or using this Fram counter to see if its faster? *cough, kopernical might give it a shot? cough*
kopernical wrote:
Heh, actually there is, but I didn't do it for my own reasons. It meant removing one of my favorite parts :-) I'll give you a hint, do Toad Man last.
You've completely lost me here :) Because I really can't see your hint...
Nitrogenesis wrote:
Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
Cooljay wrote:
Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
Does Flash Stopper help in ToadMan's level? I'm thinking back to how Time Stopper stopped the wolf mini-bosses in WoodMan's level from entering. That doesn't work on the snails, does it?
put yourself in my rocketpack if that poochie is one outrageous dude
Probably not. I've used the Flash Stopped in Ring Man's level on the Hippos, and while it stops them mid-teleport, the screen still freezes, and you can't advance until you beat them. Even with the Wolves in Wood Man's stage, while they're in the way, you can go past them if you can get around them. With the Snail and the Hippo, I believe the screen is stuck until they're defeated. Someone want to verify that for sure?
I simply mean that could you have slided+jumped through him instead of using Balloon?
No.
AngerFist wrote:
Are you saying that you are going to compare or using this Fram counter to see if its faster? *cough, kopernical might give it a shot? cough*
Heh, I don't know.
Bag of Magic Food wrote:
Does Flash Stopper help in ToadMan's level? I'm thinking back to how Time Stopper stopped the wolf mini-bosses in WoodMan's level from entering. That doesn't work on the snails, does it?
Yeah that's what I was talking about. You have to take a hit, but then you can pass right through them.
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Think of it this way kopernical. This site certainly dont want me to do it because you are more experienced, better player and would surely do it much much faster so I sincerely hope you will do it. And not in a few months, rather beginning this month :)
Nitrogenesis wrote:
Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
Cooljay wrote:
Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
I actually want to see Angerfist give it a try. It doesn't matter how many times you have to rerecord to make it perfect, no matter how long it takes you, no matter how many pointers the site might give you, try it, and im sure you will do a great job posting your WIP room by room if you have to.
Well, if Rain Flush doesn't really save time on BrightMan, but Flash Stopper does save time on ToadMan, could you insert BrightMan just before ToadMan? Or was that tried already?
put yourself in my rocketpack if that poochie is one outrageous dude
Well, if Rain Flush doesn't really save time on BrightMan, but Flash Stopper does save time on ToadMan, could you insert BrightMan just before ToadMan? Or was that tried already?
That's what I was saying. Rain Flush saves a little bit of time against Bright Man but I think you'll make it up in Toad Man's stage. I never actually timed it. I just never did it cause I didn't want to.
AngerFist wrote:
This site certainly dont want me to do it because you are more experienced, better player and would surely do it much much faster so I sincerely hope you will do it. And not in a few months, rather beginning this month :)
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Okey guys.... :) I really want to officially say that Im going to try improve the current Megaman 4, BUT, I want to first try to see if I can use the Balloon to fastforward through walls etc.. If anyone have spare time then please try to see if its indeed possible to go through walls... Now if I begin to run this game, Im going to need a tutor/mentor/master. Any volunteers? ^_^
Nitrogenesis wrote:
Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
Cooljay wrote:
Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
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What route should I use? Kopernicals route? Also, which emu and rom is the best for this game?
Nitrogenesis wrote:
Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
Cooljay wrote:
Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
Well, you should probably use FCEU so you can see your frame count at all times, and you should use the same ROM as the last movie, since it's for NTSC and in English. You could try moving BrightMan up earlier in the route and see if having the Flash Stopper earlier saves more time than using the Rain Flush on BrightMan. Otherwise the route seems fine.
put yourself in my rocketpack if that poochie is one outrageous dude
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Okay I think I've downloaded the lastest emu fceu-0.98.12-blip. Now where do I find the megaman4 proper rom? I tried searching for it in google but some of the relevant sites have some weird links and rom.
Nitrogenesis wrote:
Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
Cooljay wrote:
Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
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Posts: 3517
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
I wish I could remove my 400th post :( forgive me but I had forgotten about that rule...
Nitrogenesis wrote:
Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
Cooljay wrote:
Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
Well let's change the rules. No one will care that much if there are a few ROM files here, right? (I think changing the rules is my favorite solution for any problem, but I bet you all disagree.)
put yourself in my rocketpack if that poochie is one outrageous dude
