This topic is for the purpose of discussing #3751: Lollorcaust's A2600 Phoenix in 00:24.93

I think that the "final boss" could have been done faster. Also, are there any other different levels, or is it just those exact same levels over and over? I like A2600 shooters though, so if someone does Demon Attack, that would be great.

I think that the "final boss" could have been done faster. Also, are there any other different levels, or is it just those exact same levels over and over? I like A2600 shooters though, so if someone does Demon Attack, that would be great.

Yeah, the game never ends, it keeps repeating the levels. That... blue thing in the mothership moves to the right. If I stayed in the middle just shooting the mothership, the damaged area would move. Sorry for my poor english.

Does this complete the game? I'm not familiar with this shooter, but it seems to me the mothership is still alive by the end of the movie.

Does this complete the game? I'm not familiar with this shooter, but it seems to me the mothership is still alive by the end of the movie.

That happened because I committed suicide at the end of the movie :p. After some frames, it goes back to the first level.

Would it also have gone back to the first level at the same frame if you hadn't committed suicide? (That gives me an idea maybe we should ask for suicide right after the "end" of the infinitely-repeating game has been reached.)

Would it also have gone back to the first level at the same frame if you hadn't committed suicide? (That gives me an idea: maybe we should ask for suicide right after the "end" of the infinitely-repeating game has been reached.)

Yes.

I've just made a TAS completing Phoenix in under 20 seconds. It can still be improved by a second, I think.

So… I vote No (it seems to be my first „No” vote, before this I preferred „meh” in such cases) :)

It seemed fine until the rather ambiguous end. Vote = meh.

I like the game, and I think this is fairly entertaining for a short Atari run. An optimal run of this game should certainly be published. So, I voted "Yes" to this run, but I think we should see more optimization in this run before publication (especially if FractalFusion claims there's a 4 or 5 second improvement in a 25-second movie!)

I'll let Lollorcaust (or anyone else) work on the improvement. Here's the 20-second TAS I was referring to: http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/2491746511994026 Up until the final boss, my TAS is slower by 1 second, but saves 6 seconds at the final boss. The improvement is as follows: - First, shoot one of the center blocks. - Then, go to the left and shoot the three blocks on the two columns at the very left. - Now, shoot the blue moving barrier at the leftmost column and immediately for the next shot shoot the blue moving barrier at the second left column; since the dents in the blue barrier move, the second shot will hit the dent made by the first one and create a hole allowing a well-timed shot to pass through completely. - Finally, return to the center and shoot all the center blocks and then shoot the alien through the moving hole; there is just enough time to do so. The center block is a bit strange. Shooting just right of center clears a block of width 2 along the center, whereas shooting just left of center doesn't clear any blocks, but by shooting it enough (about 8 times or so), you can form dents and holes in the blue barrier even without clearing any blocks. The blue moving barrier also treats the center as width two. It seems like a programming bug to me. The bird-like enemies in the third and fourth areas have confusing movements, so if anyone wants to figure out how they work, then good. Finally, please don't let the player die to the final boss's shots at the end. Just use the shield if you have to. Also, it is probably a good idea to stop the encode a bit after when the game returns to the first area (maybe a second after) so it is clear that the final boss is actually defeated. ---- Edit: The center block bug seems to be an emulator bug, since this Youtube video indicates that the bug should not occur during gameplay.

Due to possible improvements stated by Fractal, I'm voting no. I was waiting till someone found an improvement btw.

om, nom, nom... blech, salty!

I will redo it.

This seems to be one of the better A2600 games. I would have voted yes.