From start-up, pressing these buttons makes the game end:
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player1: L + Right
player2: R + Left
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How the ending is determined from start-up:
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On the first frame right after start-up, it is determined.
Pressing the 4 buttons gives the ending.
If they are not pressed, or any other buttons are pressed, the Nintendo logo shows up.
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From start-up:
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On the first frame, input P1:L + Right P2:R + Left.
One the second frame, movie end, and the ending will occur.
Nach: While this is theoretically the fastest time through the game, the movies submitted here need to go beyond normal, and entertain. Skipping immediately to the end misses the point. We want to see creative gameplay, not just skipping all gameplay. This would make a good April Fool's submission though.
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Nice ;) Particularly given the recent trend of discovering "straight-to-credits" glitches.
Of course, this uses a debugging mode that's against the rules, but it's amusing anyhow. You can watch it on Nicovideo: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm17067681
2 No votes already and no explanations.
I vote yes
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Cheat-keys, debugging codes and arcade continues are not allowed
隠しコマンドやデバッグコードやアーケードにおけるコンティニューは許容されていません
と書かれていると思います。隠しコマンドなどを利用したものも勿論立派なTAS動画なのですが、残念ながらこのサイトの基準にはそぐわないものとなっています。
隠しコマンド使用とはいえ、2フレームでの入力終了には驚かされました。次回作に期待しますね！
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I guess you are the guy who uploaded its encode on nicovideo. Well, I'm gonna post in Japanese.
Have you read through Wiki: MovieRules (ja)? Your movie is against the rules of this site, though it is actually a TAS movie.
Anyway, I'm surprised at 2-frame end-input. I'm looking forward to seeing your next work!
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Well, there's a difference.
This one can be called up immediately through a specialized input combination. You even need to use both controllers to do it.
The one in Earthbound isn't meant to be usable at all, meaning the player has to go through quite a lot of trouble (and regular input) to access it. So it's a legitimate glitch. If you can somehow access a debug mode or even warp to the closing credits using a memory manipulation method, it's fine. If it's a secret key combination then it's against the rules. (This hasn't really ever come up before, though, since I don't think movies like this one have ever been submitted before. It's not very clearly defined in the rules, I'll give you that. This is just what I think the spirit of the rules imply.)
Ah, so finagling a way to a hidden debug menu is ok, but if it's a readily available feature (like the Kontra code in old Sonic games) it's a no-go. Fair enough.
If, during start-up, you hold L+Right on player 1 and R+Left on player 2 controllers, the game goes right to winning credits. That's about all there is to it.
Here we'll have a bunch of people not knowing what they will be talking about, I better grab some popcorn.
My 2 cent is: This is legit, but how 100% boring. TASing is supposed to show inhuman play, which this fails to provide.
I shall vote no.
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I am quite amused by this. Hooray for a new shortest submission!
I agree with Dada's points:
Dada wrote:
Well, there's a difference.
This one can be called up immediately through a specialized input combination. You even need to use both controllers to do it.
The one in Earthbound isn't meant to be usable at all, meaning the player has to go through quite a lot of trouble (and regular input) to access it. So it's a legitimate glitch. If you can somehow access a debug mode or even warp to the closing credits using a memory manipulation method, it's fine. If it's a secret key combination then it's against the rules. (This hasn't really ever come up before, though, since I don't think movies like this one have ever been submitted before. It's not very clearly defined in the rules, I'll give you that. This is just what I think the spirit of the rules imply.)
To add to this, we have had at least two examples before of using debug features purposefully:
Granted, neither of these movies actually finished the game immediately as a result of debug features, but they still benefit from deliberately using a debug feature. These movies were eventually deemed to have used cheat codes, which is different from what the Earthbound run did.
EDIT: boct, Brandon's joking ;-)
Used to be a frequent submissions commenter. My new computer has had some issues running emulators, so I've been here more sporadically.
Still haven't gotten around to actually TASing yet... I was going to improve Kid Dracula for GB. It seems I was beaten to it, though, with a recent awesome run by Hetfield90 and StarvinStruthers. (http://tasvideos.org/2928M.html.)
Thanks to goofydylan8 for running Gargoyle's Quest 2 because I mentioned the game! (http://tasvideos.org/2001M.html)
Thanks to feos and MESHUGGAH for taking up runs of Duck Tales 2 because of my old signature!
Thanks also to Samsara for finishing a Treasure Master run. From the submission comments:
Shoutouts and thanks to mklip2001 for arguably being the nicest and most supportive person on the forums.
Even if we disregard the debug rule, doesn't the "run must be faster than RTS equivalent" work here? I suppose one could boot up the console holding these buttons and achieve the same effect. (Probably).
Voting no but it's definitely a hilarious movie :p
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DarkMoon wrote:
CoolKirby wrote:
Not only does it use cheat codes
"Cheat code" implies external help. It's something that the devs left in the game, so it's more-or-less valid in that regard.
Cheat codes aren't exclusively activated though poking values into the RAM using something like a Gameshark, by the way. Like the Konami Code being one well-known example. Particularly PC games have a lot that can be accessed via simply typing things in. A TAS of Warcraft II for DOS could be a lot faster if you used the fast building cheat, for example.
Those should be considered invalid too. Just like this trick.
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Finally watched it. It took WAY longer than 0.03 seconds to get everything set up. It's pretty hilarious though ;-)
I'm not voting.
Used to be a frequent submissions commenter. My new computer has had some issues running emulators, so I've been here more sporadically.
Still haven't gotten around to actually TASing yet... I was going to improve Kid Dracula for GB. It seems I was beaten to it, though, with a recent awesome run by Hetfield90 and StarvinStruthers. (http://tasvideos.org/2928M.html.)
Thanks to goofydylan8 for running Gargoyle's Quest 2 because I mentioned the game! (http://tasvideos.org/2001M.html)
Thanks to feos and MESHUGGAH for taking up runs of Duck Tales 2 because of my old signature!
Thanks also to Samsara for finishing a Treasure Master run. From the submission comments:
Shoutouts and thanks to mklip2001 for arguably being the nicest and most supportive person on the forums.
Cheat codes aren't exclusively activated though poking values into the RAM using something like a Gameshark, by the way. Like the Konami Code being one well-known example. Particularly PC games have a lot that can be accessed via simply typing things in. A TAS of Warcraft II for DOS could be a lot faster if you used the fast building cheat, for example.
Those should be considered invalid too. Just like this trick.
http://www.nicozon.net/watch/sm17067681
In the future, if any of you see a nicovideo.jp link and no others, copy it into the address bar and replace nicovideo.jp with nicozon.net. It only takes a few seconds, and you never need to ask again.
