I've found that higher difficulty setting does not provide any entertainment benefits, it only prolongs boss battles. And also that JPN version faster than USA.
Mukki: The idea that prolonged boss battles alone provide a good enough reason to avoid the highest difficulty is absurd. Most, if not all, harder difficulty levels in gaming are so because of either stronger enemies or weaker attacks. It is true that we may allow a run to be played on a lower difficulty level under certain circumstances, but such a circumstance would be where the resulting boss battles are so long as to be severely detrimental to the entertainment value (for examples see here and there ). The effect upon entertainment is the most important point that has been missed here. The first boss, for example, has 25HP in normal mode and 35HP in hard mode and considering that the pterodactyl's fire breath does 5HP damage (as does a fully charged club hit for that matter) this can hardly be said to be a difference worthy of an exception. This game should be run on hard mode and for this reason I am rejecting this submission.
On a side note, this run was made using the Japanese ROM and the author's reason for doing so was rather ambiguous. From what I could gather the argument was that the Japanese ROM contained timing differences that were beneficial to the TASer. I would class this as within the 'gray area' as outlined in the movie rules. In other words, it is not a good reason to switch ROMs, and so the USA version of this game is preferred.
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I have to vote Yes after that scene in the quicksand, but ... it's a Weak Yes now that it was mentioned that it wasn't the hardest difficulty.. +D
But, nice TAS \o\
I wonder why this wasn't played on the (U) rom? Anyway, it also seems to sync on the (J)[x] rom.
Looks pretty good, too. I presume that flying and bird-walking are at the same speed? It seemed bird-walking also went at a pretty good clip but I'm not able to say whether one is faster than the other.
This also seems like the sort of game that wouldn't be improved by changing the difficulties. Some of the boss battles are tedious enough already.
All in all this run seems to fit very well with the others on the site. Voting yes.
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As there have only been four votes on this and not much discussion on the substance of this run itself I'm going to give this another couple of days. Hopefully this should give time for an encode and a few more votes and comments. Speak now or forever hold your peace...
As there have only been four votes on this and not much discussion on the substance of this run itself I'm going to give this another couple of days. Hopefully this should give time for an encode and a few more votes and comments. Speak now or forever hold your peace...
Seeing as it is played on the wrong rom (J) not (U) and not played at the highest difficulty, I think it should be pretty clear.
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DarkKobold wrote:
Seeing as it is played on the wrong rom (J) not (U) and not played at the highest difficulty, I think it should be pretty clear.
And what is he wrong? If you try to run this TAS on the U version, then pressing the buttons will occur EARLIER than expected. This means that the Japanese version is better suited for TAS.
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I had not attempted to watch the run before I posted so I did not see the rom version used. khv-user, all runs submitted to the site must use the (U) [!] rom unless there is a very good reason not to do so. I'm not quite sure what the difference is you are reffering to, but I shall, of course, look at both roms before reaching a decision (though a preliminary glance suggests that they are very similar).
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khv-user wrote:
DarkKobold wrote:
Seeing as it is played on the wrong rom (J) not (U) and not played at the highest difficulty, I think it should be pretty clear.
And what is he wrong? If you try to run this TAS on the U version, then pressing the buttons will occur EARLIER than expected. This means that the Japanese version is better suited for TAS.
Do you mean ... EARLIER because of the shorter text screens? They did tell on the rules that this is not reason enough to choose the J version.. o.o
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Jungon wrote:
Do you mean ... EARLIER because of the shorter text screens?
I mean that all game events in the USA-version comes a little later. It is strange that language version has value here, especially if the game is almost no text.
There might be one more reason for the language choice, somewhat similar to the first sub-one-hour OoT run This TAS hasn't been created for this site initially, but just for Youtube.
khv-user Did you know this site before you finished this TAS?
I've found that higher difficulty setting does not provide any entertainment benefits, it only prolongs boss battles
Then you use the Easy setting.
Since when?
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I call this game a big hot steaming pile of bag game choice. Hot damn is this run boring. Although the runner could have done more to entertain during the autoscrollers, I don't think any amount of entertainment would have made watching this game fun.
adelikat wrote:
I very much agree with this post.
Bobmario511 wrote:
Forget party hats, Christmas tree hats all the way man.
The idea that prolonged boss battles alone provide a good enough reason to avoid the highest difficulty is absurd.
Guidelines wrote:
Where a game has multiple difficulty levels, it is preferred to play on the hardest difficulty level (for more interesting gameplay) unless the only difference between difficulty levels is enemy/boss hit points, in which case the easiest difficulty levels are preferred in the interest of speed. If the difference in difficulty is inapplicable for your run, for example, you trigger the end game sequence right from the start, then selecting the hardest mode is unnecessary.
One of these thesis is wrong. I would appreciate if someone clarify me which one?
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