Post subject: Idea about Obsoletion Chain
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Every now and then improved versions of older, already obsoleted runs pop up, when really the goal of those runs would be totally arbitrary by current standards. (I'm thinking SM64 16 stars f.e.) Most of the time such runs don't get produced in the first place though, just because people know they're not very likely to get accepted. They have an undeniable entertainment value though. Would it be an idea to make it possible to accept and publish these runs, but add them into the middle of obsoletion chains and leaving a special note in the description of said publications? A big disadvantage of that approach would be that the obsoletion chain would no longer be in chronological order then.
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I believe this is one of the reason for that we have Gruefood Delight?
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Hm, yea. Although to discover gruefood delight, you'd have to visit the forums or browse the site really carefully. If those runs got part of the obsoletion chain, they'd be a bit easier to discover. Also, there'd maybe be more motivation to create such runs because they would, after all, get accepted in the voting process and that'd feel more rewarding to the author. I do realize there are a lot of disadvantages to it, but I saw a lot of complaints about how some people feel like certain glitches actually reduce the entertainment value of the resulting movies, and I get their point, so I came up with this suggestion. (I also realize it'd potentially create some problems. If, for example there's movie A applying no glitches at all, and movie B obsoletes A, and uses two new glitches, then there'd be no way to logically deduce which glitches should be absent in inter-obsoletions of movie A. Again, the reason I came up with my suggestion was just because I saw that many people were dissatisfied with the current system. Personally, I'm totally fine with it.) The overall picture that new visitors of the site would thus get would probably make them feel more amazed about this community, in that everybody who enjoys TASes gets some form of acceptance here (currently it has a bit of an elitist touch to it). Maybe I'm just overestimating the impact that my proposed change would make though.. For it to work, we would also have to find a way to draw more attention to the "Obsoletes movie xxx" link that's present in every submission. It'd be a way to show that even though the current submission is the fastest one, we still respect the work of the previous authors. I don't know. Just felt the need to throw out this idea to be openly discussed. If no supporters of my idea show up in this thread, then it should obviously be ignored.
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Well, Gruefood is linked from the Movies section of the site, under "Special Categories".
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I know. But if they got part of the obsoletion chain, those runs would be easier to find and there'd be more motivation to produce them. That's my basic argumentation. Maybe we could have something like an obsoletion tree with alternate branches? Nah, that would be way too weird, wouldn't it?