Posted: 7/14/2010 8:20 PM
(Edited: 7/16/2010 1:01 PM)
Post subject: An Idea for "YOUR FIRST TAS"
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Torn338
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Hello! And welcome to my thread :). And by the way, if you're just now joining the site, Welcome to TASVideos!!! *Sorry for the confusion, this is meant for starting TAS'ers to get the idea for there first TAS, but TAS'ing common games and finding a game that they find they're comfortable with, I don't mean to for your first time to try and go for an all out optimized run! :P* Before reading, if not already be sure to check out this thread! http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8535 First off, if you're reading this, than most likely you are a newbie of TAS'ing, but may not necessarily be ignorant to what a TAS (that is a (T)ool (A)ssisted (S)peedrun/(S)uperplay) is. Well than, before we begin here are some useful links to look at, as well as there sub links. About TASVideos http://tasvideos.org/WelcomeToTASVideos.html Information on Common Games (A good start by the way!) http://tasvideos.org/GameResources.html Information on tricks that many games share (such as the way they're coded) http://tasvideos.org/CommonTricks.html Accepted Emulators here at TASVideos (Used to make the actual TAS!) http://tasvideos.org/EmulatorResources.html Short Newcomer FAQ http://tasvideos.org/NewcomersAnticipatedQuestions.html The Main Article Index http://tasvideos.org/ArticleIndex.html For you to compare your TAS to others, or even the pros :). http://tasvideos.org/Movies.html And an all around article on TAS and 10 Great TAS's! (External link) http://www.crispygamer.com/features/2009-04-20/as-fast-as-impossible-10-insanely-thrilling-tool-assisted-speedruns.aspx?utm_source=TeamCrispy&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=jjt After looking at the above, and possibly downloading what you need if you don't have it already, it's time to begin. You're going to want to find a game that you have played and are very familiar with, for example if you're familiar with Super Metroid or very familiar with it (As I am :D), than that's a good game to start TAS'ing. However, never go for a game that you've never played before, one you're just now playing for the first time, or a game that you have never beat. Below are some games that many people have played, and even if you haven't played that one, you're sure to have played one of them in the list! List of common played games by people: 1. Metroid (NES) 2. The Legend of Zelda (NES) 3. Mario Bros. 1, 2, & 3 (NES) 4. Pokemon Games (Various Systems) 5. Super Metroid (SNES) 6. Donkey Kong 1, 2, & 3 (SNES) 7. Zelda Ocarina of Time/ Majora's Mask (N64) 8. Super Mario 64 (N64) 9. Castlevania Series (Various Systems) ~ Symphony of the Night is a good one to try :). 10. Spyro 1, 2, & 3 (PSX - Playstation) Just a few to start out with, I'm sure that you, the reader, have played at least one, if not all of these games :). Below I'll explain what you should do if you decide to TAS one of those above listed games. And below in the next post, to keep my posting more organized, you will find descriptions, and links, as well as information to the games I'm more familiar with, such as Spyro, Super Metroid, and Zelda.
Posted: 7/14/2010 8:24 PM
(Edited: 7/17/2010 3:07 PM)
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Torn338
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*Will be updating more of this later, and explaining more of why these common games are easier for testing* 1. Metroid: Ahh the original game for the NES, that shocked many after beating the game and realizing that guy that was actually playing as was actually a gal. It's a rather linear game... unless you know how :). Here are some TAS's that show how glitched this game can get! NES Metroid (USA PRG0) "100%" in 33:25.7 by Thomas Seufert (Lord Tom) Publication: http://tasvideos.org/1320M.html Video: http://www.viddler.com/explore/adelikat/videos/311/ NES Metroid (USA PRG0) "any%" in 08:19.32 by Thomas Seufert (Lord Tom). Publication: http://tasvideos.org/1144M.html Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KYA3ssuGv8 NES Metroid (USA PRG0) "low%" in 11:08.78 by Thomas Seufert (Lord Tom) Publication: http://tasvideos.org/1443M.html Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNHw2zwJKBE 2. The Legend of Zelda: Mostly the most popular Zelda game up until Ocarina of time! With pixel perfect precision, and luck manipulation, you can rummage through this game in under 25 minutes! NES Legend of Zelda (USA PRG0) in 24:04.05 by Phil Côté (Phil) & Lennart W. (Baxter) Publication: http://tasvideos.org/868M.html Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHMlKSvYDcA NES Legend of Zelda (USA PRG0) "2nd quest" in 24:59.83 by Lennart W. (Baxter) & Joshua Horst (Morrison) Publication: http://tasvideos.org/1205M.html Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hlmb6AK75QQ 3. Mario Bros :) Okay, no need to ask who Mario is :P... If you do, you deserve to be slapped... HARD. It was always a joy playing this as a kid, even though I didn't grow up in this era :D. Not really all that much I can say about this game though I'm afraid. FDS Super Mario Bros (FDS) "-3 stage ending" in 02:44.61 by Lee (HappyLee). Publication: http://tasvideos.org/1365M.html Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGWUgw--Xco&fmt=37 FDS Super Mario Bros 2 (FDS) in 08:06.96 by Lee (HappyLee). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6SFGz_Q2lY FDS Super Mario Bros 2 (FDS) "Luigi Version" in 08:16.42 by Phil Côté. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQ-ZyRAlEas NES Super Mario Bros 2 (USA PRG0) in 07:52.67 by adelikat & Cardboard. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbPjBHmel80 More.. and I do mean many more Mario TAS's can be found on the NES Submissions section here: http://tasvideos.org/Movies-NES-FDS.html 4. Pokemon Ahh who could forget trying to wake up early Saturday morning or Wednesday evening to turn on the TV to the WB and watch this kick arse show :)? But after 2nd gen the series went down hill in the eyes of true fans, however, the games themselves are still fun, and even more fun to TAS. Heavy glitch abuse can be used to even beat the game (Red/Blue/Green/Yellow) in under a minute! Or if you're going for a true legit run, luck manipulation can be used to beat the game as fast as possible, even showing off those incredibly rare, and nearly impossible to find shiny Pokemon. :P - Links added later.. I'm sleepy :P - 5. Super Metroid Samus is back after kicking the Metroid's arses on SR388, with his rival Ridley, and a.. Very Confused Metroid Larva. Whether through TAS'ing hacks (Google Super Metroid S.M.I.L.E), Redesign, or the all time classic original, I'm positive you'll have as much fun as I've had with this game! - Links added later- 6. Donkey Kong 1, 2, & 3 Gotta love them Monkeys :), now some other things to be sure to look at about this game is the various warp points in the games, some are even inentional to the developers, such as the memory problem after beating the first level in DKC1, where you can glitch warp after Stage 1 level 1 to half way through the 3rd stage.. half way into a level! - Links added later- 7. Zelda Ocarina of Time/ Majora's Mask ~Description Added Later~ - Links added later- 8. Super Mario 64 Contrary to what MANY people say on this site, after learning a few of the glitches to this game, such as the Back Wards Long Jump (BLJ), TAS'ing this game can be highly educational to your TAS'ing career, because this game is easy, very fun, and a big part of MANY of our child hoods.. Just because it's 3D, don't mean jack after you get the hang of it, and I'll be the one to say that, this game was my very first experimental TAS's :) 9. Castlevania ~Description Added Later~ - Links added later- 10. Spyro ~Description Added Later~ - Links added later- Thanks for reading my thread, whether you've just skimmed through it, or read it all, I hope it has helped you, and for your first TAS, don't try to compare yourself to a PRO, just sit back, set a time, try to beat it, if you can, good! Keep setting it lower and lower, but don't set it too low that its near impossible/impossible even with maximum optimization. After you really get the hang of TAS'ing, try to beat one of the submitted movies here, or maybe some of those that didn't make the cut here, on Youtube. Who knows your TAS may end up here one day!
Posted: 7/16/2010 10:20 AM
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Kriole
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Don't you think it would be wiser to link to the publication instead of the stream?
Posted: 7/16/2010 10:34 AM
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Brushy
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I honestly think that these games are not good for TASing if you're a new, because all of them are complex and already very well optimized. Beating the existing TASes of these games is extremely hard. I do not recommend these games for newbies except for testing and learning basics of TASing. But if you're up to it and feel confident, I wish you good luck.
Posted: 7/16/2010 11:47 AM
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Torn338
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Kriole wrote:
Don't you think it would be wiser to link to the publication instead of the stream?
Yeah, I'll change that in a bit, I was trying to rush this a bit since I was sleepy that night, and trying to work on my Spyro 2 100% TAS. :)
Brushy wrote:
I honestly think that these games are not good for TASing if you're a new, because all of them are complex and already very well optimized. Beating the existing TASes of these games is extremely hard. I do not recommend these games for newbies except for testing and learning basics of TASing. But if you're up to it and feel confident, I wish you good luck.
That's moreover of what I mean, the point in this is to get people who are new to TAS'ing an idea of how to start doing there TAS'ing.. I don't mean for them to at first try a fully optimized TAS :P, It's all about practice at first, and then on to the real thing once you get the hang of the game itself, and understanding how to TAS numerous things of course.