This is probably caused by my particular Linux/Firefox setup (with its myriads of extensions), but nevertheless I'm hoping someone would have some suggestions about how to get the embedded videos working. (It's not like I really need them; I just would want my browser to work for the case when I might to need it, here or somewhere else.)
When I try to watch an embedded video, it expands the area where the video would appear, and then the area just shrinks, as if the embedded player failed to load or something along those lines. Note that:
1) I don't have any problems watching videos on any of the video sites directly (youtube, dailymotion, viddler...)
2) I don't have problems watching videos which have been embedded (in the regular way) in other websites.
3) The embedded videos work in Konqueror but not in Firefox, so it has to be something specific to my Firefox in particular.
4) I do use the NoScript, RefControl and Cookie Button add-ons for Firefox, but those haven't prevented watching videos as mentioned above.
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Which version of Firefox?
Note, if you have NoScript activated on the site, you won't see the buttons at all.
Edit:
Did you test this with Viddler, DailyMotion, Google Video, and YouTube buttons? Or Is this only a problem with some of them?
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Note, if you have NoScript activated on the site, you won't see the buttons at all.
I think I made it relatively clear that I know what I'm doing. "When I try to watch an embedded video, it expands the area where the video would appear, and then the area just shrinks, as if the embedded player failed to load or something along those lines."
I'd say it's unlikely to get that effect if I had scripts disabled for tasvideos.org (or the video sites themselves.)
Did you test this with Viddler, DailyMotion, Google Video, and YouTube buttons? Or Is this only a problem with some of them?
I tested it with the Viddler, DailyMotion and YouTube, and all behave in the same way. It doesn't seem to depend on the video streaming site itself.
(This is not the only webpage where I have had hard time getting something similar to this to work, but it's relatively rare. It would be good to know what's causing it, though. Maybe it's fixable.)
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Warp wrote:
Nach wrote:
Which version of Firefox?
3.0.15. I don't think it's a version issue.
Apparently not, since Guybrush has the same version you do, and I designed the feature with 3.0.14 myself.
Warp wrote:
Note, if you have NoScript activated on the site, you won't see the buttons at all.
I think I made it relatively clear that I know what I'm doing. "When I try to watch an embedded video, it expands the area where the video would appear, and then the area just shrinks, as if the embedded player failed to load or something along those lines."
You misunderstand. I wasn't questioning your competency, I was pointing out that your comment of having NoScript installed would not be the problem as you wouldn't see the problem in the first place, instead of the problem you're currently having.
As you yourself said:
Warp wrote:
I'd say it's unlikely to get that effect if I had scripts disabled for tasvideos.org (or the video sites themselves.)
Warp wrote:
Did you test this with Viddler, DailyMotion, Google Video, and YouTube buttons? Or Is this only a problem with some of them?
I tested it with the Viddler, DailyMotion and YouTube, and all behave in the same way. It doesn't seem to depend on the video streaming site itself.
Okay.
Do you have any extension installed which may be modifying the JavaScript you download or as it's running? Or mess with flash?
I'm not familiar with RefControl, could it perhaps interfere with flash being embedded from a different origin?
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I was pointing out that your comment of having NoScript installed would not be the problem as you wouldn't see the problem in the first place, instead of the problem you're currently having.
I jumped to conclusions, sorry.
Do you have any extension installed which may be modifying the JavaScript you download or as it's running? Or mess with flash?
It would have to be messing up with javascript or flash in a quite specific way, as it only happens when embedding the flash video happens like tasvideos.org is currently doing it. As said, I have no problems with videos which are embedded in other webpages in the regular way (for example, all the videos at failblog.org work just fine for me).
Besides NoScript I don't really know what could be interfering. I have some extensions like Adblock (rather unlikely) and PrefBar (also rather unlikely, but it does have an option to disable flash, so it might be interfering in certain very special situations, I suppose). Maybe I should just go through all the extensions I have installed and disable them one by one to see if the embedded videos start working. That would certainly catch the culprit.
I'm not familiar with RefControl, could it perhaps interfere with flash being embedded from a different origin?
It's used to limit sending referrer information on a per-site basis. It could be the cause only if those video streaming sites require referrer information, but it's unlikely because, as said, videos embedded in the regular way work just fine.
Damn, I found the culprit: Adblock. When I disabled it, the videos started working fine.
I should have tested that to begin with. I apologize for the trouble.
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Well, I don't know how normal my way is compared to what the sites themselves do.
Those sites create object/param tags directly in the HTML you download. My method generates it on the fly. Perhaps one of your plugins doesn't like object generated on the fly and deletes it as soon as it sees it.
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Warp wrote:
Damn, I found the culprit: Adblock. When I disabled it, the videos started working fine.
I should have tested that to begin with. I apologize for the trouble.
Odd.
I have AdBlock Plus installed and I can play the embedded videos just fine and also hide the site ads. Maybe it's some setting within AdBlock?
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I wonder if Adblock is conflicting with some other addon, because if I disable Adblock completely as an addon, the embedded videos work fine, but if I enable Adblock as an addon but disable its functionality from Adblock's own settings, all advertisements start showing but the embedded video doesn't work. Strange.
