Posted: 8/8/2009 8:27 AM
Post subject: Key limit I NEED HELP HERE :(
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MexicanHat
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well yeah playing a game like metroid fusion on vba is hard bcuz at some points you need to get down, open the missile hatcheti thingy and shoot my computer doesent do all that bcuz of the key limit... Any 1 know how to bypass keylimit ??
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Posted: 8/8/2009 8:34 AM
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Get a gamepad. Or try a different input setting combination. But really, the solution is to get a gamepad, it is so much better.
Posted: 8/8/2009 9:05 AM
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MexicanHat
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uhh whats a gamepad :D!? :P soz for askin
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Posted: 8/8/2009 9:29 AM
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Randil
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MexicanHat wrote:
uhh whats a gamepad :D!? :P soz for askin
A videogame controller for your computer. You know, like the controller for the Playstation or NES, only that it works on your computer.
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Posted: 8/8/2009 9:30 AM
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Warp
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MexicanHat wrote:
uhh whats a gamepad :D!?
A game controller, eg. like this one Out of curiosity: What "key limit" are you talking about?
Posted: 8/8/2009 9:44 AM
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andymac
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A key limit is where some key combinations on a keyboard cannot be pressed. On my keyboard, I can press at maximum 17 keys at the same time, while still legally registering, and it has to be a very specific combination. I recommend mapping the buttons to "shift", "ctrl", "alt" and the windows key because they are generally able to be pressed with many combinations of buttons. On my keyboard, for example, left shift is the only button which is pressed independently from any other button, so can be used with any combination.
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Posted: 8/8/2009 9:45 AM
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MexicanHat
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that i cant do multiple things at once.. like i allready said :(
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Posted: 8/8/2009 11:26 AM
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Tombad
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Or if you're adamant about using a keyboard, get one that can support a lot of simultaneous keys (like SteelSeries 7G).
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Posted: 8/8/2009 4:35 PM
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Or you can just spread your input keys further apart. Some keyboards assume that someone pressing QWEASD all at once is probably sitting on their keyboard, so it ignores the highly localised input area. Moving your input keys even one or two spaces over will solve this. That, or you can just map certain keys to do more than one input at a time.
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Posted: 8/8/2009 6:25 PM
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MexicanHat
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andymac wrote:
A key limit is where some key combinations on a keyboard cannot be pressed. On my keyboard, I can press at maximum 17 keys at the same time, while still legally registering, and it has to be a very specific combination. I recommend mapping the buttons to "shift", "ctrl", "alt" and the windows key because they are generally able to be pressed with many combinations of buttons. On my keyboard, for example, left shift is the only button which is pressed independently from any other button, so can be used with any combination.
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Posted: 8/8/2009 7:08 PM
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use ESDF keys for directions and the numpad for the controller buttons
Posted: 8/8/2009 10:46 PM
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Does VBA have an auto-hold feature?
Posted: 8/8/2009 11:04 PM
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Yes, but it's menu based. I'm sure there are ways to map them to hotkeys, though.
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Posted: 8/9/2009 3:43 AM
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Posted: 8/14/2009 6:37 AM
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I learned about keyboard matrices while trying to hack one into an arcade controller for MAME. One thing I did learn is that USB keyboards usually don't have the same kind of matrix as a standard PS/2 keyboard and are virtually limitless in the amount of keys you can press at the same time. So, if you don't want to get a game pad, get a USB keyboard instead.
Posted: 8/14/2009 8:09 AM
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Zurreco
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Operative word is still "virtually." Even modern non-fancy USB keyboards still have a fairly low key limit based on location. Once you run in to the problem of surpassing the key limit of your keyboard for the first time, you really forfeit any excuse to not have a plan for the next time.
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Posted: 8/14/2009 8:17 AM
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andymac
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I have to disagree with the whole USB keyboards are limitless thing. The type of port used has absolutely nothing to do with how the keyboard is wired. Better quality keyboards are the ones with higher limits. If you want to get a higher key limit, buy a more expensive keyboard, which is basically what it boils down to, not whether the keyboard uses USB or not. The two USB keyboards in my house have an old matrix setup and have and 18 key limit each. (this was done by counting the contacts along the larger axis of the matrix, not by actual testing)
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