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Posted: 5/22/2009 5:27 PM
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samurai_goroh
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Doing a rough calculus, how long will the full run be? And, will it end with the good or bad ending?
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Posted: 5/22/2009 8:21 PM
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Blaise
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Are you near the end? I want to watch the WIP so badly but I don't want to spoil myself.
Posted: 5/23/2009 5:18 PM
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dirk456
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samurai goroh wrote:
Doing a rough calculus, how long will the full run be? And, will it end with the good or bad ending?
Actually, there are 3 endings: 1. Refuse to fight the final boss when talking to the dragon who protects the seal (your mother). Worst ending 2. Defeat the final boss without having the flying Township. Ryu becomes the next dragon to guard the gates. Sad ending 3. Defeat the final boss and have the flying Township. Ryu's father uses the city to close the gates. Good ending
Posted: 5/23/2009 5:28 PM
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janus
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I'm going for the best ending, of course :p. It's going to be challenging with low level to fight the guardeyes
how long will the full run be
I honestly can't tell. I don't know if I will be able to withstant ray'S etherstorm at level 18... If I can't, I will have to fight golden sludges, I guess... http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/87874691/Breath%20of%20Fire%20II%20%28U%29.smv back before the attack on the grand church, with about 1500 less frames
Posted: 5/23/2009 9:20 PM
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janus
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http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1322325047/Breath%20of%20Fire%20II%20%28U%29.smv I have survived the storm! but nina wasn't so lucky...
Posted: 5/25/2009 2:06 AM
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janus
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http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/863581976/Breath%20of%20Fire%20II%20%28U%29.smv I have destroyed Evrai without leveling up. ''Luck manipulation'' gets its true meaning during the guardeye fight
Posted: 5/26/2009 2:13 PM
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janus
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http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/239027438/Breath%20of%20Fire%20II%20%28U%29.smv about to descend into infinity
Posted: 5/27/2009 3:47 AM
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janus
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http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1653659405/Breath%20of%20Fire%20II%20%28U%29.smv ready for Infinity II. i was able to skip the valery sequence
Posted: 5/27/2009 1:26 PM
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dirk456
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The Valery part was never required. It was more an event to learn more about your past. ^_^ Hopes for an awesome Final Battles (Are you gonna get all the dragon equips?)
Posted: 5/27/2009 1:41 PM
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janus
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in one of the FAQs, it said it was required :p I don't know if I will get equipment. It depends if I can manipulate the two last battles so I won't have to die... EDIT : http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/273985241/Breath%20of%20Fire%20II%20%28U%29.smv just got Anfini. and still not a frame millionaire :p
Posted: 5/29/2009 4:03 PM
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janus
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I will have to redo part of the run; the dragon fight is too hard to manipulate ( i'm only at the 2nd round, and i already skipped 1k frames!!) I will fill up Towship in order to cook Wise Bl; this way, fight will be shorter (no need to heal and use wisefruits) and I will be able to fight the dragon alone. No need to fight k sludges!
Posted: 5/29/2009 11:50 PM
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Blaise
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That's good to hear, I didn't think you could skip the level up segment.
Posted: 5/30/2009 12:11 AM
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janus
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I WILL be able to, unless Evans is harder. I just need to cook wise bl's
Posted: 5/30/2009 12:58 AM
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Mastania
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In Evrai, before fighting the archers, would it be faster to heal Ryu's AP with WFruit before the fights, so that he can finish one of them quickly with a dragon attack rather than Freeze?
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Posted: 5/30/2009 2:35 AM
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dezbeast
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I watched most of your WIP, and it looks pretty good. I noticed you used different dragon attacks, sometimes even on the same boss. One looked considerably slower (I think it was the ice one) leading me to believe that they all aren't the same speed. Wouldn't it be best to use the dragon attack with the quickest animation everytime? I was thinking you were mixing them up for better entertainment.
Posted: 5/30/2009 5:24 AM
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janus
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I was indeed trying for some entertainment. Maybe I'll just show them once or twice. Let's hope the enternaiment factor doesn't suffer!
In Evrai, before fighting the archers, would it be faster to heal Ryu's AP with WFruit before the fights, so that he can finish one of them quickly with a dragon attack rather than Freeze?
now that you mention it...
Posted: 5/31/2009 5:06 PM
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janus
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http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/27837681/Breath%20of%20Fire%20II%20%28U%29.smv back at the uparupa with 4775 more frames. I did cut a few frames here and there with less travel to dragon shrines
Posted: 6/1/2009 2:02 PM
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janus
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http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/517679403/Breath%20of%20Fire%20II%20%28U%29.smv out of the monkey castle. Now I'M on my way to get bleu and cook my wise bl for the rest of the game
Posted: 6/2/2009 4:21 AM
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janus
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http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/653757720/Breath%20of%20Fire%20II%20%28U%29.smv take 2. the carpenter was much slower than i expected, so I sped up things
Posted: 6/2/2009 8:36 AM
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Mastania
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Have you considered manipulating WiseBL drops from enemies? The enemy with the highest chance is the Jacky that appears in Memory, at about a 1/85 chance. They can be killed in one hit with Chopchop and shouldn't be able to kill anyone as long as they're defending. Everything else that drops them have a 1/256 chance, including the Paladin that Rand fights. You also don't HAVE to buy WFruit one at a time, you can buy 9 of an item by pressing left once in the store menu. Alternately, have you considered killing Ryu off in any battle where he doesn't have to 'finish off' an enemy, in order to keep him at a low enough level so that only one WFruit is needed to heal him?
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Posted: 6/2/2009 1:45 PM
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janus
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manipulation of drop... Interesting. As for the 9 at the time : I might reconsider it. BUt the frame saving is going to be marginal, at least before the terapin fight. BUt for the hero : since I'm finishing the game ASAP (without leveling up), he's the only one that can really speed up the process
Posted: 6/2/2009 4:56 PM
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janus
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After a few tries, item dropping is too hard to manipulate. The only way I could get a better chance would be to ahve a morphed Sten, which means quite a detour inside the witch tower. It would also mean I would have to reasign chop chop. inside the mind, there would be the Hero, Spar, Nina/Bleu (to cast exit) and Sten... I will try it my way first and the other one after
Posted: 6/5/2009 11:16 PM
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janus
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http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1979206510/Breath%20of%20Fire%20II%20%28U%29.smv here's roughly how the game looks with cooking. I need to restart it to make things a little smoother
Posted: 6/7/2009 1:26 AM
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janus
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http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1678715102/Breath%20of%20Fire%20II%20%28U%29.smv the terrapin fight was a little longer, but i'm still 90 frames behind the original run
Posted: 6/7/2009 6:21 PM
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janus
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http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/275946222/Breath%20of%20Fire%20II%20%28U%29.smv I was FINALLY able to get a short fight against nimufu. The run is now 400 frames shorter
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