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GreenaLink wrote:
Sorry if my previous post sounds a bit harsh but I was quite impressed overall how my favourite system can be TASed.
I wonder when MY favourite systems will have it's chance...
The classic Polystation:The Funstation 3The PX-3600Or the revolutionary Chintendo Vii
but Neo Double Games will do for now:
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Bisqwit wrote:
Well, I can't say I was terribly impressed by the run or the game in general, but it wasn't bad, either. Bonus points for being a first DS TAS!
Btw, adelikat, I have some nitpicking to do: the platform acronym should be "NDS", not just "DS".
Warp wrote:
Edit: I think I understand now: It's my avatar, isn't it? It makes me look angry.
Finally got around to watching it on YT. It looks ok to me, but there seem to be some parts where I wasn't sure it that's the right way to go. Despite those concerns, it was a weak yes vote from me.
the platform acronym should be "NDS", not just "DS".
By that reasoning, though, GB/SGB/GBC/GBA should be changed to NGB/NSGB/NGBC/NGBA... :p
*thinks back to that ridiculous "GB vs. DMG" debate*also this run needs more weegee. GO WEEGEE
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Captain Forehead wrote:
Okay, I have to know this.
When you are TASing a DS game, how do you use the stylus?
Use the mouse pointer it is easy for tap inputs but for sliding inputs, well it will be a nightmare holding the left mouse button and pressing the next frame button.
I think it will be pretty easy actually, you know, on the next frame, take a short break, then continue on, it's that simple.
Oh, and by the way, I voted yes.
By that reasoning, though, GB/SGB/GBC/GBA should be changed to NGB/NSGB/NGBC/NGBA... :p
No, no, no, don't get me wrong. "Nintendo" is the part of the console's name as much as in the case of "Nintendo Entertainment System", "Nintendo 64", and so on.
Warp wrote:
Edit: I think I understand now: It's my avatar, isn't it? It makes me look angry.
I think it will be pretty easy actually, you know, on the next frame, take a short break, then continue on, it's that simple
So you not only want to click your mouse, but also press a direction key and and at least one button button AND hit frame advance? Good luck with that! See you when your fingers are crippled and/or when you're pressing a button with your nose or tongue (both even?).
This is, of course, assuming you're not using Autohold.
As much as I loved watching this run, I have to vote meh due to the tech problems already mentioned. Since the question changed from "did you enjoy this movie" to "do you think this should be published", my vote changes with it.
This is the best movie I've ever voted meh on ;)
I really hope someone does an optimized any% or all-levels version of this.
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I decided to vote Meh.
It has bonus points for being a TAS. But the main problems for me is that it was really monotone, and that it is, of course, improvable.
I look forwards in the future for a MKDS run though. ^.^
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This was a meh vote for me. While the game is popular in general, that doesn't nessacarily mean it's a good choice to TAS. First off, I think this game is just...slow. When making a TAS, you think speed. But I digress...
While I sort of liked this run in general, I began noticing one improvment that could have saved a lot- facing backward when touching the flagpole. Since Mario doesn't turn, it would of saved time. I did see you say that you weren't thinking when saving the game, but that's still a mistake that really points out. I realize I'm not supposed to expect an unimprovable TAS for a first, but these two mistakes just got in my way too much. However, there were good points. I liked how some of the levels in World 8 went. The final castle was really nice too. I unfortanatly, must say this may not be good for publishing.
ShinyDoofy wrote
[quote="ShinyDoofy"][quote="Captain Forehead"]I think it will be pretty easy actually, you know, on the next frame, take a short break, then continue on, it's that simple[/quote]So you not only want to click your mouse, but also press a direction key and and at least one button button AND hit frame advance? Good luck with that! See you when your fingers are crippled and/or when you're pressing a button with your nose or tongue (both even?).
This is, of course, assuming you're not using Autohold.[/quote]
Autohold? That just made things a lot easier, I thank you ShinyDoofy!
This is the first ever TAS run or wip of any kind for the game or platform. There's no way I'm making an unimprovable movie on the first try.
That might have been an alleviating circumstance 7 years ago, but I think the site's standards have been upgraded a bit since then. The site rules do not say that TASes of new consoles should be judged more leniently.
As I said, the very first TAS of a new console is admirable, but not grounds for lowering the quality standards.
Btw, do I have the impression that many people are voting yes for the precise reason that this is the first DS submission ever? Where was that list of lousy excuses for publication, again?-)
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I call publish. While this game is not the most entertaining game to TAS (Like any Mario-game, SMW and SMB2u excluded(Self-pwn I know, but I don't like SMB3 too much)), it's still publishworty and most importantly, brings a new console to the site.
I think it would be folly to wait 3 months for the first NDS-TAS to be published, especially when one which at very least is publishable exists.
Warp wrote:
omg lol this is so fake!!!1 the nes cant produce music like this!
I call publish. While this game is not the most entertaining game to TAS (Like any Mario-game, SMW and SMB2u excluded(Self-pwn I know, but I don't like SMB3 too much)), it's still publishworty and most importantly, brings a new console to the site.
1) Since when has a run, which the author himself admits is sloppy, been publishworthy?
2) Since when has "brings a new console to the site" been grounds for more lenient judging, overlooking glaring sloppy play?
I think it would be folly to wait 3 months for the first NDS-TAS to be published, especially when one which at very least is publishable exists.
Is having runs of games of new consoles some kind of status symbol for us? Why is it so important and outright urgent to have this run published as soon as possible?
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It's not about status or lack thereof. It's about bringing a new console to the site which allows for a wider fanbase, more members, more TASers, and more TASes of hopefully high quality.
Also.
1) Since when has a run, which the author himself admits is sloppy, been publishworthy?
There are known cases of this yes. I could bring them up if you wish. There are also cases of runs known by everyone and their mums to be improvable but they still got published so yeah. It might not be a rule but it happens for the greater good.
Warp wrote:
omg lol this is so fake!!!1 the nes cant produce music like this!
There are known cases of this yes. I could bring them up if you wish. There are also cases of runs known by everyone and their mums to be improvable but they still got published so yeah. It might not be a rule but it happens for the greater good.
As someone has said, past mistakes don't justify making them again.
In some cases yes: There might have been very good reasons for publishing a run with known flaws. However, is "this is the first DS TAS" good reason enough?
How long did it take to make this TAS? How long would it take to remake it with the flaws fixed?
The Funstation 3
The PX-3600
Or the revolutionary Chintendo Vii
but Neo Double Games will do for now:
