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So wait, correct me if I'm wrong, there are two runs of SM64 being worked right now, right? Kyman is working on the not glitched 70 stars run, but I seem to remember that someone else was working on a renewed 120 stars run, complete with new glitches and strategies to obsolete the existing one... That, and I doubt that the 0 stars run is improvable further.
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nineko wrote:
So wait, correct me if I'm wrong, there are two runs of SM64 being worked right now, right? Kyman is working on the not glitched 70 stars run, but I seem to remember that someone else was working on a renewed 120 stars run, complete with new glitches and strategies to obsolete the existing one... That, and I doubt that the 0 stars run is improvable further.
mr_robert_z is working on a new 120 star run.
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Thank you. I look forward to both the runs :)
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nineko wrote:
That, and I doubt that the 0 stars run is improvable further.
From what I understand Brainstormer did find a few spots a while ago where frames could be saved, but I don't know anyone whose actually working on it atm.
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That's a shame :( Apparently all the interest nowadays is towards other games, you know it's a bad day when the thread for Ocarina of Time gets more replies than this one :\
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nineko wrote:
That's a shame :(
The improvements are so small that there is no point of redoing the 0 star TAS.
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nineko wrote:
That's a shame :( Apparently all the interest nowadays is towards other games, you know it's a bad day when the thread for Ocarina of Time gets more replies than this one :\
Didn't it have that for like...three years?
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I guess it's been a bad three years, then. ;)
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nineko wrote:
Apparently all the interest nowadays is towards other games...
Good.
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Kyman wrote:
nineko wrote:
That's a shame :(
The improvements are so small that there is no point of redoing the 0 star TAS.
I missed them, how small? Just like a few frames throughout? I'm guessing the only way to improve it anymore would be to get in the moat door? =/
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Ferret Warlord wrote:
nineko wrote:
Apparently all the interest nowadays is towards other games...
Good.
No.
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GMan wrote:
Kyman wrote:
nineko wrote:
That's a shame :(
The improvements are so small that there is no point of redoing the 0 star TAS.
I missed them, how small? Just like a few frames throughout? I'm guessing the only way to improve it anymore would be to get in the moat door? =/
IIRC he saved 2 frames on the BitDW BLJ.
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you know it's a bad day when the thread for Ocarina of Time gets more replies than this one :\ LOL That's clearly a good thing.
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Yeah, lol, obviously!
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Honestly, I think it's hard to argue at this point that SM64 has much of a TAS audience left, besides the hardcore framewar members. I don't think it's a good thing or a bad thing, it's just a thing. I admit I'm not part of the group that follows it so voraciously, but there IS the novelty of watching such a revolutionary game get the special treatment. Few games get as broken as this one has.
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I know I'm still looking forward to a new 120 star run, but I also realize that we need to keep finding techniques for speeding up individual stars so that the final run is as good as possible and won't have to be restarted due to new discoveries, hopefully.
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So I was watching a video on nicovideo (2 guys trying to get 8 red coins while a mushroom chases them), and at the end of the video they showed an outtake of a failed attempt. To sum it up in words, mario was on one of the collapsing blocks in Whomp's Fortress (the kind that I think only exist there and at the end of BitFS) and exited the course as the block was falling. Instead of landing on the sun mosaic thing in the lobby, they landed behind the upstairs key door. I wonder how the block changed mario's exit position and if that could be abused in a tas. Like maybe exit course into/near the next painting or whatever.
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That's the basement door. Mario just falls through the floor in the entrance hall. I don't think you can use it for anything else...
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Acheron86 wrote:
Honestly, I think it's hard to argue at this point that SM64 has much of a TAS audience left, besides the hardcore framewar members.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=videos&search_query=super+mario+64+freerun&search_sort=video_date_uploaded bkDJ: I can't replicate that glitch in Super Mario 64 (U) [!].
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I should have phrased my original post more graciously. I apologize. I still like checking this thread, obviously, and I usually watch the new stuff when it's linked. What I mean to say is that it feels to me like SM64 TASing has already seen most of its brokenness. It's hard to believe there's much less to do. I eagerly await being proven wrong on that assertion.
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Acheron86 wrote:
it feels to me like SM64 TASing has already seen most of its brokenness. It's hard to believe there's much less to do.
I would have thought that any other 'big' find must just be effectivly a 'press this to win the game' button. In that the next 'big' any% TAS of SM64 wont really be a TAS of the game at all. Just, 'intro' 'glitch' 'credits.' And I can not see that grabbing the attention as of many people that your standard run would.
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bkDJ wrote:
(the kind that I think only exist there and at the end of BitFS)
There's some in BBH. Also how do I watch that video? :/
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Kyman wrote:
bkDJ wrote:
(the kind that I think only exist there and at the end of BitFS)
There's some in BBH. Also how do I watch that video? :/
Oh right, forgot about the BBH ones. And sorry, you watch the video by either having an account there or using this link: http://d.hatena.ne.jp/video/niconico/sm6188097
Post subject: Found a flaw in the route, HUZZAH!
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With the current route, it is impossible to get snowman's lost his head because you must do frosty slide for 8 red coins first. So I'm starting to think BBH is worth it.
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Here's the final route! Also there will be a WIP soon.
    star#   name
    1    Behind Chain Chomp's Gate
    2    Shoot to the Island in the Sky
    3    Whomp's Fortress 100 Coins
    4    Red Coins on the Floating Isle
    5    Fall Onto the Caged Island
    6    Blast Away the Wall
    7    Shoot Into the Wild Blue
    8    Chip Off Whomp's Block
    9    To the Top of the Fortress
    10   Princess' Secret Slide Under 21"0
    11   Tower of the Wing Cap
    12   Slip Slidin' Away
    13   Li'l Penguin Lost
    14   Cool, Cool Mountain 100 Coins
    15   Big penguin race
    16   Wall Kicks Will Work
    17   Bowser in the Dark World Red Coins
    18   Princess' Secret Slide
    19   Secret of the Haunted Books
    20   Big Boo's Balcony
    21   MIPS
    22   In the Talons of the Big Bird
    23   Shining Atop the Pyramid
    24   Inside the Ancient Pyramid
    25   Boil the Big Bully
    26   Hot-Foot-It Into the Volcano
    27   Bully the Bullies
    28   Elevator Tour in the Volcano
    29   8-Coin Puzzle With 15 Pieces
    30   Red-Hot Log Rolling
    31   Swimming Beast in the Cavern
    32   A-Maze-ing Emergency Exit
    33   Metal-Head Mario Can Move!
    34   Navigating the Toxic Maze
    35   Watch for Rolling Rocks
    36   Toad 1
    37   Chests in the current
    38   Board Bowser's Sub
    39   Bowser in the Fire Sea
    40   The Manta Ray's Reward
    41   Shocking Arrow Lifts!
    42   Express Elevator--Hurry Up!
    43   Top O' the Town
    44   Pluck the Piranha Flower
    45   Five Itty Bitty Secrets
    46   The Tip Top of the Huge Island
    47   Wiggler's Red Coins
    48   Scale the Mountain
    49   Mysterious Mountainside
    50   Breathtaking View From Bridge
    51   Blast to the Lonely Mushroom
    52   Scary 'Shrooms, Red Coins
    53   Toad 2
    54   Snowman's Big Head
    55   Shell Shreddin' For Red Coins
    56   In the Deep Freeze
    57   Chill With the Bully
    58   Whirl From the Freezing Pond
    59   Roll Into the Cage
    60   Timed Jumps on Moving Bars
    61   The Pit and the Pendulums
    62   Tick Tock clock 100 coins
    63   Stomp on the Thwomp
    64   Stop Time For Red Coins
    65   Get a Hand
    66   Toad 3
    67   Coins Amassed in a Maze
    68   Cruiser Crossing the Rainbow
    69   Tricky Triangles!
    70   Swingin' in the Breeze