Post subject: New server addresses (announcement)
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Starting today, several new server addresses were taken into use on the TASVideos website. media.tasvideos.org: Replaces tasvideos.org/media, bisqwit.iki.fi/jutut/kuvat/nesvideos and w-create.com/%7Ebisqwit/nesvideos, and portions of bisqbot.stc.cx tracker.tasvideos.org: Replaces bisqwit.iki.fi/torrents The main site address is still http://tasvideos.org/ , can also be spelled http://TASvideos.org/ or http://TASVideos.org/ , so it has not changed. ============== For publishers (IMPORTANT): The new tracker announce address is: http://tracker.tasvideos.org:6969/announce , not http://bisqwit.iki.fi:6969/announce You must heed this change or otherwise you will not be able to publish new torrents. ============== These changes are done in preparation for possible future migration of the TASVideos website. ============== NOTE: Regular users of the TASVideos website don't need to change anything! Note 2: All torrents of the site have been rewritten to use the new announce address. You may need to redownload them if you were seeding them. (The old announce address will still continue to work for an unspecified length of time (on the order of weeks at least), though.)
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Cool. Are these actual new servers, or just new addresses for the same existing server? Also, URLs are case-insensitive; HtTp://TaSvIdEoS.org also works. :)
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Derakon wrote:
Cool. Are these actual new servers, or just new addresses for the same existing server?
For now, they're physically the very same thing.
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Bisqwit wrote:
For publishers (IMPORTANT): The new tracker announce address is: http://tracker.tasvideos.org:6969/announce , not http://bisqwit.iki.fi:6969/announce
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hum would it be possible to type http://www.tasvideos.org ? It's kind of standard no ?
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I hold the view that www. is completely redundant and should be discouraged.
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Please make the "www." version into something other than an error page, such as an HTTP redirect. Whenever a site becomes unresponsive, Firefox automatically retries a URL with "www." attached to the beginning, even if the site was loaded from a bookmark. It gets annoying when my bookmarks to TASVideos end up with the description "Wrong Virtual Host" just because the site was slow at the time Firefox grabbed the information.
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I don't wish to make it into an automatic redirection, because otherwise people will start forming permanent links to the wrong address, seeing that it will redirect to the right thing anyway.
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for your information, the www isn't redundant as it can be used to make the difference between one site and an entirely different site. your original post already proves this. The WWW has been there since the beginning. No sense in being a hardass about it. "I refuse to have a proper internet address because I think it doesn't matter." Well guess what, it does. What SHOULD happen is that browsers refuse to take an address without a subdomain.
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This is kinda off topic, but I've always wondered why the Chrono Cross torrents use port 6967 instead of 6969. I suppose it is because 6969 is for torrents in the database and 6967 is for ones outside of it, right? (that would also require two torrent programs open though...)
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Cheezwizz wrote:
for your information, the www isn't redundant as it can be used to make the difference between one site and an entirely different site. your original post already proves this. The WWW has been there since the beginning. No sense in being a hardass about it. "I refuse to have a proper internet address because I think it doesn't matter." Well guess what, it does. What SHOULD happen is that browsers refuse to take an address without a subdomain.
So things like "somesite.com" should stop working, since they aren't "www.somesite.com"? You do realize that "www." can be prepended to anything, right? See http://www.xkeeper.rustedlogic.net/. Personally I agree that "www" is redundant, but I do not under any circumstances think making the "www" page into an error should be the correct behavior. That kind of attitude and decision pisses me off entirely, as the amount of effort required to fix it is almost nothing.
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The only problem I have with you not using www is that I often try to visit this site by typing "tasvideos [ctrl-shift-enter]", and it bugs me when it doesn't work as I hope.
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Theoretically, wouldn't it be more efficient to have the www page match the current, non-www version? If someone types the www version, they get the error page, and then click the link and go to the non-www version. If you were to make the www version identical, the user would end up downloading slightly less, as they'd be downloading the equivalent page plus the error page. current: error page + main page with www page identical to non-www: main page Sorry if I'm wording this in a confusing way, and I'd also like to make clear the fact that I don't run a server or anything.
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People, let me quote something:
Bisqwit wrote:
I don't wish to make it into an automatic redirection, because otherwise people will start forming permanent links to the wrong address, seeing that it will redirect to the right thing anyway.
As you can see, the problem for Bisqwit is not what you're thinking it is. Maybe he's worried about search engines and that kind of stuff. I hate it too when people add "www." to my website address on links, but in my case is because it makes it look ugly and long. Sadly, I don't have the power on my server to make an error page like Bisqwit did.
Cheezwizz wrote:
The WWW has been there since the beginning. No sense in being a hardass about it. "I refuse to have a proper internet address because I think it doesn't matter." Well guess what, it does. What SHOULD happen is that browsers refuse to take an address without a subdomain.
Everything in your post was really funny... :P
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mz wrote:
People, let me quote something:
Bisqwit wrote:
I don't wish to make it into an automatic redirection, because otherwise people will start forming permanent links to the wrong address, seeing that it will redirect to the right thing anyway.
As you can see, the problem for Bisqwit is not what you're thinking it is. Maybe he's worried about search engines and that kind of stuff. I hate it too when people add "www." to my website address on links, but in my case is because it makes it look ugly and long. Sadly, I don't have the power on my server to make an error page like Bisqwit did.
Search engines don't store a page that is a redirect. In fact, they would be indexing the error page (except he explicitly denies that in meta tags). A better solution would be to use a 301 code. But then again, Bisqwit has constantly been "above" using silly things like seamless redirects. Who remembers Agent Slash from "/nesvideos"? Better hope you didn't follow a YouTube link or you'd get an error for no reason! (This is one of those things that consistantly angers me about Bisqwit's web presence)
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What I hate is when people actually bother to type "www." in their address bar when almost all websites don't require it. Anyway, what I have always wondered about is this: If I go to google and type "tasvideos" in the search box and click "I'm feeling lucky", I end up with "http://tasvideos.org/" in the address bar (as expected) but I also get a 404 error.
Not Found The requested URL / was not found on this server. Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. -------------------------------- Apache/2.2.9 (Debian) PHP/5.2.6-5 with Suhosin-Patch Server at tasvideos.org Port 80
My lazy way of omitting both the www. and the .com/.net/.org doesn't work for this site.
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AQwertyZ wrote:
What I hate is when people actually bother to type "www." in their address bar when almost all websites don't require it.
Awww..... I like to type the "www." because it makes the URL feel more "proper". Leaving it out makes it look like a lazy speech shortcut.
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Xkeeper wrote:
Search engines don't store a page that is a redirect. In fact, they would be indexing the error page (except he explicitly denies that in meta tags). A better solution would be to use a 301 code.
I was thinking more about PageRank and that kind of stuff. Also, he might want to build another different site on the "www." subdomain in the future, who knows. :P
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Bisqwit, have you heard of no-www? Right now, your site is Class NA. For what it's worth.
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YtterbiJum wrote:
For what it's worth.
http://no-www.org/faq.php wrote:
Q: Why are some domains N/A? A: The no-www standard does not apply to certain domains. In these instances, traffic to example.net may be directed to a different server or contain different content than the www. version.
*facepalms*
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Thing is, without the www. in there, CTRL+SHIFT shortcut won't work. If you typed TASVideos in your browser and then CTRL+SHIFT+ENTER, it adds in www. and .org ^^;;
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Sir VG: in Firefox 3, you can just type "TAS" and you should get the right TASVideos URLs right at the top. TAS-down-enter is what I do to get where I'm going.
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Derakon wrote:
Sir VG: in Firefox 3, you can just type "TAS" and you should get the right TASVideos URLs right at the top. TAS-down-enter is what I do to get where I'm going.
Replace "Firefox 3" with "Firefox 1" but this is exactly what I do. I type "T" and tasvideos is the first entry in the dropdown list :)
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nineko wrote:
Derakon wrote:
Sir VG: in Firefox 3, you can just type "TAS" and you should get the right TASVideos URLs right at the top. TAS-down-enter is what I do to get where I'm going.
Replace "Firefox 3" with "Firefox 1" but this is exactly what I do. I type "T" and tasvideos is the first entry in the dropdown list :)
Replace "firefox" with JUST ABOUT ANY BROWSER and you can still do the same thing. It's been around longer than you think.