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Joined: 3/10/2006
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Location: Maryland, United States
Awesome! I'm looking forward to seeing the part where you fight all the robot masters again.
Joined: 3/17/2006
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Location: Back to good old Germany
Can somebody please upload the WIP to dehacked or somewhere else? I can't get acces to filespace from the university network...
Former player
Joined: 3/10/2006
Posts: 347
Location: Maryland, United States
Joined: 3/17/2006
Posts: 243
Location: Back to good old Germany
Thanks, this looked really good. Especially Bright Man was amazing! Would be nice if you could continue this run
Joined: 11/26/2006
Posts: 115
hey BOMF, just watched the vbm file and i must say that your run looks very nice just as your MM3 run. your bright man level is very impressive, and the run is very entertaining, and thats what everybody wants right? so please finish the last 2 bosses, ballade and wily, would be awesome to see! regards
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Joined: 5/29/2004
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Okay, I'll consider it, if I don't get too confused and frustrated. Which version should I run?
put yourself in my rocketpack if that poochie is one outrageous dude
Joined: 3/17/2006
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Location: Back to good old Germany
Oh yes, another post on this site that makes me happy.
Joined: 11/26/2006
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i guess (U) should do the trick, right? looking forward to see ballade 2 get killed ^^
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any progress yet? the music in this game is the best in all 5 mm gb games, so i want to own this tas-vid very much! :)
Joined: 11/26/2006
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finish the run plz ^^
Joined: 11/26/2006
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ok, after a long time i decided this game deserves a complete tas. so i took BOMFs run and continued it, although im new to tas'ing. please tell me what u think, my input starts after the finishing ring boomerang on crystal man, around frame 65000. http://megaman-int.quotaless.com/MM4GBR.zip
Player (206)
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Oh dear, I forgot to tell you... I already recorded half of NapalmMan's stage once, but I went back and redid CrystalMan's stage to fix a tiny mistake, and then I didn't move on to redo NapalmMan's stage. It's not a big deal, though, since we'll want to redo the whole run from PharaohMan anyway to take advantage of the "amortized shot" technique, and it will be nice to have a full test run of StoneMan and the Wily levels first. But check out how different my run turned out: http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=eba5cdf793b4b16cab1eab3e9fa335cae369e624b81c6bd4
put yourself in my rocketpack if that poochie is one outrageous dude
Joined: 11/26/2006
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i must admit ur run is cool ^^ how u liked my napalmman fight? i liked the 3 hitting splits of the crystal eye. so, are u goin to finish this run anywhere soon? its been more than a year since u said so.
Joined: 11/26/2006
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honestly i think u lack the motivation and/or time to finish the run. its been quite more then a year since u posted in this thread. so the fact is i got the motivation and the time :) and i will finish the run. if u dont tell me that youll be done by 1.1.2009 then im doin it. if u got any tipps for me, tell me. otherwise, i hope my finished run will make u do it ur way to obsolete me ;)
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PreddY wrote:
honestly i think u lack the motivation and/or time to finish the run. its been quite more then a year since u posted in this thread. so the fact is i got the motivation and the time :) and i will finish the run. if u dont tell me that youll be done by 1.1.2009 then im doin it. if u got any tipps for me, tell me. otherwise, i hope my finished run will make u do it ur way to obsolete me ;)
#1) BoMF: you got BURNED! #2) PreddY: Dude, just DO IT! He will be happy to help you out, I am sure. Although I can't speak for him, I would bet he wouldn't mind you working on/taking over the project. Make WIPs, make progress, then maybe he will get the motivation back again... however pestering him for updates will probably NOT get any motivation from any member on this site.
adelikat wrote:
I very much agree with this post.
Bobmario511 wrote:
Forget party hats, Christmas tree hats all the way man.
Joined: 11/26/2006
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kay, that even gives me more motivation :) i learned a lot when watching BOMFs run of napalmman stage compared to mine, and i tried those tricks myself and i got them to work. so i will do stoneman next and then go on to ballade v2. ill post my WIPs here.
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NM finished...even faster than in my previous attempt http://megaman-int.quotaless.com/tas/MM4GBNMD.zip
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stone man halfway done, im before the 2nd hippo and it dies to charged pharao quickly, rest should be easy
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Don't forget that weapon energy doesn't refill itself after you complete levels at this point, so you may want to conserve certain weapons if they would be more useful later.
put yourself in my rocketpack if that poochie is one outrageous dude
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Bag of Magic Food wrote:
Don't forget that weapon energy doesn't refill itself after you complete levels at this point, so you may want to conserve certain weapons if they would be more useful later.
i alrdy thought of that problem ^^ u think its fine to reset and enter password to get refilled? i think im able to beat it to the end without refill, but esp RJ and RI and PH are near empty and PH is empty after 2nd hippo... can u give me a hint on luck manipulating drops? couldnt get it done until now...
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stone man done tell me what u think, esp u bomf! http://megaman-int.quotaless.com/tas/MM4GBSMD.zip
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PreddY wrote:
can u give me a hint on luck manipulating drops?
Every button you press on a non-lag frame changes your luck, even if the button doesn't cause Mega Man to do anything different. So you could press forward while sliding or climbing, Up while not sliding, Down just about anytime you're not near a ladder, B in any situation where you're unable to fire, A when free-falling, Down+A after you've already started sliding, Start (or any other button) during a screen transition, and Select anytime. Try any combination of those buttons on many different frames just before destroying an enemy, and eventually you can receive any item you need without having to deviate from the perfect path.
PreddY wrote:
u think its fine to reset and enter password to get refilled?
I have a lot of doubts about it. Not everybody will agree on when the level is considered "beaten" or when the password is "obtained", and the judges will have to go to the trouble of making sure every password used is identical to the last one given. It seems like cheating to get around the energy limitations like that--why else would Dr. Right have an instant refill option in the lab? I think it would be better to declare this a "Never chooses the Pass Word option" run up front, since that still allows for the intro skip with the reset code.
put yourself in my rocketpack if that poochie is one outrageous dude
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Bag of Magic Food wrote:
Every button you press on a non-lag frame changes your luck, even if the button doesn't cause Mega Man to do anything different. So you could press forward while sliding or climbing, Up while not sliding, Down just about anytime you're not near a ladder, B in any situation where you're unable to fire, A when free-falling, Down+A after you've already started sliding, Start (or any other button) during a screen transition, and Select anytime. Try any combination of those buttons on many different frames just before destroying an enemy, and eventually you can receive any item you need without having to deviate from the perfect path.
dude, thanks a lot! didnt know that but i was able to luck manipulate a large W refill for PH that i will need after killing ballade v2.
Bag of Magic Food wrote:
I have a lot of doubts about it. Not everybody will agree on when the level is considered "beaten" or when the password is "obtained", and the judges will have to go to the trouble of making sure every password used is identical to the last one given. It seems like cheating to get around the energy limitations like that--why else would Dr. Right have an instant refill option in the lab? I think it would be better to declare this a "Never chooses the Pass Word option" run up front, since that still allows for the intro skip with the reset code.
you are right, i wont do this as im pretty sure i wont need a complete refill, as the wily stage is pretty simple, and i can adapt to low energies in the boss refights. did u watch my WIP? u didnt say anything about it but i wanted to hear ur oppinion :D and, did u manipulate charge man actively to not get invulnerable until hes killed or were u lucky?
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PreddY wrote:
did u watch my WIP? u didnt say anything about it but i wanted to hear ur oppinion :D
It didn't look too bad. My test run of StoneMan's stage was done in pieces, so I'll have to sort my movie files out before I can be sure what my strategies would be. I just hope you're using Pharaoh Shot in the right places.
PreddY wrote:
and, did u manipulate charge man actively to not get invulnerable until hes killed or were u lucky?
Think about it. If it's luck, then you can manipulate it. Figure out when a boss chooses its next attack so that you can choose the sequence of attacks that will let you destroy it the fastest. In addition to dealing damage as fast as possible, try to set it up so that you end the fight in the closest position to reach the next area, and try to avoid actions that lag the game processor too much--explosives like Napalm Bomb and Ballade Cracker get a significant penalty in that regard. (I discovered in Rockman World 3 that sliding can be a bit less laggy than standing still. So if you're stuck waiting in a busy area, see if sliding around saves a few frames.)
put yourself in my rocketpack if that poochie is one outrageous dude
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Bag of Magic Food wrote:
It didn't look too bad.
is that a positive statement? :)
Bag of Magic Food wrote:
My test run of StoneMan's stage was done in pieces, so I'll have to sort my movie files out before I can be sure what my strategies would be.
hope you will find them.
Bag of Magic Food wrote:
I just hope you're using Pharaoh Shot in the right places.
i am not as perfect as you are in speedrunning, as you have a lot more experience than i do, but i try my best.
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