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I decided to download CrossOver (basically a commercialized Wine) to try out PCSX. The docs say to use No Sound 0.4 as the sound plugin - where in blazes is that? I can't find any such thing on the Net and it's not installed by default. The program also crashes when I try to run Einhänder from my CD/DVD drive, complaining about an error with the CDRom plugin. Any ideas? I'm a total newbie when it comes to Crossover, mind you.
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FFVII crashes at the first battle in the game. this:
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Derakon, it's spuNull.dll. I guess mz forgot to put it inside the new archive. (actually, in the 7z file I got from his post it is there... but who knows?? heheh.)
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What is this thing supposed to look like when i've got it up and running? Are there any keys that aren't documented? I've been trying to prepare this thing to potentially watch movies with but things seem off, not the least of which includes certain hotkeys listed in the text file not working. I think it might be significant enough to think it's not going to work if I try to play a movie on it because I probably don't have it set up right.
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pirate_sephiroth wrote:
Derakon, it's spuNull.dll. I guess mz forgot to put it inside the new archive. (actually, in the 7z file I got from his post it is there... but who knows?? heheh.)
Oh, it's there -- it just doesn't show up in the list of available sound plugins: (It is really weird seeing a window that has OSX-style window bars but Windows-style widgets) Edit: the CD-ROM issue might have something to do with Crossover not exposing the CD-ROM drive to the program; I'm not at all certain, though.
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check the "Set plugins driectory". Does it point ot the correct place? Maybe you ran it on a different folder and it got saved...?
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Drama, too long, didn't read, lol.
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No, I thought of that. It's set properly, to ~/apps/pcsx/plugins (edit: though, every time I choose to set the plugin directory, it starts from / again; this might just be an incomplete UI though). Edit again: on a lark, I copied spuNull.dll over spuPeopsDSound.dll (making a backup first, of course), and got an error: "Could not open SPU plugin Y:\apps\pcsx\plugin\spuPeopsDSound.dll". So I guess there's something wrong with my version of spuNull.dll. For the CD-ROM issue, I note that when configuring the CD-ROM plugin, there's no options for "Drive". Could that be the cause of my problem as far as being unable to load games?
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yeah, are you using P.E.Op.S? And with a physical or virtual drive?
Derakon wrote:
every time I choose to set the plugin directory, it starts from / again;
Yeah, it's just the same in Windows. It doesn't check the saved value when we click the button.
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Drama, too long, didn't read, lol.
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I'm using the plugins that came with the program. The ones that work, anyway. And I have my original Einhänder disc in my computer's CD/DVD drive. I've tried downloading the spuNull.dll you linked to and it also doesn't work. It's exactly the same size as the one in the download that mz provided, though, so I suspect they're identical. Edit: here's the config screen for the CD-ROM plugin:
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Yeah, I hope my private message helps you... :D
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Derakon: DLLs not showing up means some needed Windows DLLs are missing on your system. About the CDR plugin not showing drives, this is what Pete has to say about it:
The plugin tries all drive letters from "C:" to "Z:", and asks the operating system, if the drive is a DVD/CD-rom drive. If the OS says "yes", the plugin tries to access the drive. If that is also possible, the letter will be put in the list. Therefore, either the OS doesn't tell the drive type, or the plugin cannot access the drive.
So, it looks like you'll have to use another CDR plugin. For all the other people having crashes: only use the provided plugins, thanks. You're wasting many people's time trying to run the emulator with the ultra cool OpenGL v2.9 GPU plugin and/or the Mooshit CDR plugin. So, if you want to get better help: -Make sure you're only using the plugins that come with my version of PCSX. -Show me a screenshot of your plugin folder, so I can now for sure it is a real issue. Unfortunately, I cannot try every plugin in the world while I do my tests, as I already waste several hours only by testing with the provided ones. Also, it really helps if you can identify since which version your crash started to occur, or if it also happens with the official PCSX. That being said, I'll try to fix the confirmed reported bugs for the next version.
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mz, Derakon was using CrossOver to run it on OSX. Let's see what he will report tomorrow. There's also Cheezwizz, who says he can't use the F keys to load/savestates. (in fact he claims hat only the numerical pad speed control keys are working)
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Yeah, Tombad... that is exactly what I was hoping to hear from Derakon tomorrow.
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mz wrote:
For all the other people having crashes: only use the provided plugins, thanks. You're wasting many people's time trying to run the emulator with the ultra cool OpenGL v2.9 GPU plugin and/or the Mooshit CDR plugin. So, if you want to get better help: -Make sure you're only using the plugins that come with my version of PCSX. -Show me a screenshot of your plugin folder, so I can now for sure it is a real issue.
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You can just try to click "click here". Normaly it says you what plugin crashes the emu.
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The BIOS plugin crashed it. Changing to another bios does not crash it. btw, is it possible to get the on screen information, frame counter etc?
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He said not to use the 'Internal HLE Bios', but to use SCPH1001.BIN.
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Ok, thanks I missed that. Maybe this is a bug: the 'fps display' is very small
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antd wrote:
Maybe this is a bug: <image> the 'fps display' is very small
Try setting the image scaling to stretch to window size/keep aspect ratio. That should theoretically do the trick.
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Something which I don't understand: When playing Oddworld Abe's Oddysee NTSC sometimes pressing frame advance once results in 2 frames going by. Other times it results in 1 frame going by. In this game 90% of the time it advances 2 frames. I'm unsure as to why this happens.
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antd: I believe that this is because frame advance auto-skips lag frames. I have VirtualBox installed on my work laptop (which is running Linux), so I installed PCSX on that. I can see all of the proper plugins now and have no difficulty detecting the CD in the drive, so that's good. However, I'm getting a crash whenever I try to run the CD (through BIOS or not) - the program resizes the window, goes blue, then crashes. I'm using P.E.Op.S Soft Driver 1.18 for the graphics, No Sound 0.4 for sound, N-Rage Plugin 0.95 for controls, P.E.Op.S CDR Driver 1.4 for CD ROM, and SCPH1001.bin for BIOS (I'd upload a screenshot, but I'm keeping the Windows VM segregated from the Internet as it's not patched or running AV). The CD ROM driver has detected the drive, is using W2K/XP - IOCTL SCSI commands as the interface, is reading in BE_2 (ATAPI SPEC 2) mode, is not caching, and I've tried all of the subchannel options to no avail. Is there some way to enable logging so I can know what's going on when the crash occurs?
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Derakon, could you see if this WIP version fixes your crash?
Derakon wrote:
Is there some way to enable logging so I can know what's going on when the crash occurs?
I'd have to make a special build for that, and even then, it's not very useful for crashes, because it doesn't save to a text file, yet... It only shows text on the console output.
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No good - I get exactly the same crash as before. Thanks for trying, though. On the off chance that the problem was with the game, I tried my MMX4 CD too, and it also failed in the same way. So something's screwy with my setup. I just wish I had some insight into what exactly was going wrong.
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Question. How does rerecording work with multi-disc games? Do you start a new file at the disc change with the check box unmarked? I'm curious because I've considered doing Parasite Eve, but it's a 2CD game.
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