Post subject: Working download links please
Joined: 4/29/2008
Posts: 3
I've been trying to download a few videos using Bittorrent, but most of them have no seeders. How about adding the videos to Youtube as well? The quality won't be that great, but it allows for a quick look and these links would actually work.
Senior Moderator
Joined: 8/4/2005
Posts: 5777
Location: Away
This is a known problem, and it's being partially remedied by uploading movies to YouTube, Google Video and Internet Archive. Unfortunately, there are far more movies than people willing to spend time on uploading and properly tagging them (and you are free to help). I suggest using the emulator movie files for a quick look, they're more than enough.
Warp wrote:
Edit: I think I understand now: It's my avatar, isn't it? It makes me look angry.
Former player
Joined: 12/1/2007
Posts: 425
how is this about working download links? the problem is that there's no uploaders. you can always use the key input movie.
Post subject: Re: Working download links please
Editor, Active player (297)
Joined: 3/8/2004
Posts: 7469
Location: Arzareth
We've welcomed in the past the adding of the videos at archive.org. However, whoever did it in the past doesn't do that anymore, or at least not that often, I guess. Putting the videos to Youtube has been discussed many times ― such as here and here. As for BitTorrent availability, we're constantly trying to encourage people to seed the videos ― and some are very resourceful at that ― still, as the number of videos grows, seeding grows thinner and thinner. Also, many ISPs see BitTorrent only as means for piracy, and actively try to hinder its usefulness, causing problems that can only be overcome by boycotting those ISPs that fail to see how BitTorrent is actually good for the efficiency of the Internet.
Joined: 5/17/2007
Posts: 393
Location: Sweden
I used to seed every movie (only until they went obsolete)until my computer crashed. Could start seeding again if there's need
"No love for the game gear"
Joined: 2/26/2007
Posts: 1365
Location: Minnesota
I would be interested in doing archive, so I threw up a little test site. Let me know what you think should be added to the text, because I don't think that info is enough. Also, sorry adelikat, you were my guinea pig ;P
adelikat wrote:
I very much agree with this post.
Bobmario511 wrote:
Forget party hats, Christmas tree hats all the way man.
Banned User
Joined: 12/23/2004
Posts: 1850
I have a mild curiosity as to what the total size of all (non-obsolete) movies are at this site, in GB.
Perma-banned
Senior Moderator
Joined: 8/4/2005
Posts: 5777
Location: Away
About 30.4 GB?
Warp wrote:
Edit: I think I understand now: It's my avatar, isn't it? It makes me look angry.
Joined: 5/17/2007
Posts: 393
Location: Sweden
Mine is at 26.4 GB(probably some obsolete movies I counted by mistake included) not counting Sonic Mario Zelda(I have them in another place) .
"No love for the game gear"
Editor, Active player (297)
Joined: 3/8/2004
Posts: 7469
Location: Arzareth
Mine is at 46 GB... but it probably includes quite a few obsoleted movies.
Senior Moderator
Joined: 8/4/2005
Posts: 5777
Location: Away
(No-one else except me went to check MovieStatistics.html?)
Warp wrote:
Edit: I think I understand now: It's my avatar, isn't it? It makes me look angry.
Post subject: Re: Working download links please
Joined: 4/29/2008
Posts: 3
Bisqwit wrote:
As for BitTorrent availability, we're constantly trying to encourage people to seed the videos
Aren't you as webmaster seeding them? I thought you would at least be the one doing so, to make sure we visitors don't complain like I do now ;) Using the emulator files isn't an option. I'm probably not the only one who can't be bothered to install 10 emulators for various systems and download the ROMs, just to have a quick look at how someone completes a game I used to play back then without wanting to play it myself. I've seen other speedrun/longplay-sites sign up for a director's account on Youtube, so they can upload the whole movie in one go. Uploading to other video sites is good too, but please don't forget add the link to it here on TASvideos. As it is now, most just have a "broken" torrent link and the emulator replay file.
BigBoct
He/Him
Editor, Former player
Joined: 8/9/2007
Posts: 1692
Location: Tiffin/Republic, OH
This was a problem for me back around the time I joined; I was having trouble getting the Megaman X2 run. I'd like to take this opportunity to suggest that someone (the encoder, perhaps?) Google Video or MegaUpload or something each run. I'd do it myself, but I have really bad upstream.
Previous Name: boct1584
Joined: 2/26/2007
Posts: 1365
Location: Minnesota
I have been in contact with BoltR about uploading things to archive.org. It appears I must have an administrator account, however, to do what needs to be done. As soon as I get an email from the archive.org people AND get an admin account, I will be taking over the uploading.
Wawawa wrote:
I'm probably not the only one who can't be bothered to install 10 emulators for various systems and download the ROMs, just to have a quick look at how someone completes a game I used to play back then without wanting to play it myself.
Patience is a virtue, but if you really can't wait to watch a movie, take the significantly small amount of time to download the emulator and movie, so why not stop complaining about being too bothered to use the quicker way to watch movies. It is pure laziness.
adelikat wrote:
I very much agree with this post.
Bobmario511 wrote:
Forget party hats, Christmas tree hats all the way man.
Joined: 3/7/2006
Posts: 720
Location: UK
Uh. Some people have moral standards too, like 'trying not to break the law'. Encouraging people to download the ROM is probably a no-no for a site like this, too.
Voted NO for NO reason
Post subject: Re: Working download links please
Editor, Active player (297)
Joined: 3/8/2004
Posts: 7469
Location: Arzareth
Wawawa wrote:
Bisqwit wrote:
As for BitTorrent availability, we're constantly trying to encourage people to seed the videos
Aren't you as webmaster seeding them? I thought you would at least be the one doing so, to make sure we visitors don't complain like I do now ;)
Like everyone else, I have practical considerations. For example, the fact that if I seed 647 files at once (there are 647 available torrents on my site as of this post's writing time), and say, 40 of them have downloaders at any given moment, that means at least 40 downloaders. It has two implications: Each one of them gets less than 2 kB/s from me, and it makes the webserver really slow. Bittorrent also consumes a non-trivial amount of CPU processing power. So it's a no-go. (My upstream is about 80 kB/s based on practical tests. Naturally, it is divided across everything on the site that sends something.)
Joined: 2/26/2007
Posts: 1365
Location: Minnesota
LagDotCom wrote:
Uh. Some people have moral standards too, like 'trying not to break the law'. Encouraging people to download the ROM is probably a no-no for a site like this, too.
I will edit it out, but it frustrated me due to his "I am too lazy to do anything but download a torrent, even though there are other ways that at quicker and easier than downloading and waiting for a torrent" attitude.
adelikat wrote:
I very much agree with this post.
Bobmario511 wrote:
Forget party hats, Christmas tree hats all the way man.
Post subject: Re: Working download links please
Joined: 8/27/2006
Posts: 883
Bisqwit wrote:
Bittorrent also consumes a non-trivial amount of CPU processing power. So it's a no-go.
Depending on your bittorent client. With uTorrent, the CPU usage is less than 2% of the CPU with 27 Torrents where 6 of them are actives. (Where I Upload them)
Post subject: Re: Working download links please
Editor, Active player (297)
Joined: 3/8/2004
Posts: 7469
Location: Arzareth
ZeXr0 wrote:
Depending on your bittorent client. With uTorrent, the CPU usage is less than 2% of the CPU with 27 Torrents where 6 of them are actives. (Where I Upload them)
uTorrent doesn't happen to be released for Linux, though. (As for Wine -- don't make me laugh.)
Joined: 2/26/2007
Posts: 1365
Location: Minnesota
Although I love Azureus, it would be nice if it didn't take more RAM than twelve genesis emulators running memory watch... [/bad joke] Not to question you, Bisqwit, but I am curious. Have you done research into which client would work best for your situation? As I said, I don't intend to attack, but if there is a faster/better/memory-cheaper client out there...
adelikat wrote:
I very much agree with this post.
Bobmario511 wrote:
Forget party hats, Christmas tree hats all the way man.
Joined: 8/27/2006
Posts: 883
I don't think the problem is in processing power, it would be in bandwidth. Holding a website + every torrent would be a little bit demanding on bandwidth.
Joined: 2/26/2007
Posts: 1365
Location: Minnesota
What if we began to compress, via 7-zip or even winzip, the movie files? Although it would still take as much bandwidth to begin with, smaller files means quicker downloads, means more idle bandwidth in the end.
adelikat wrote:
I very much agree with this post.
Bobmario511 wrote:
Forget party hats, Christmas tree hats all the way man.
Joined: 8/27/2006
Posts: 883
Hum I'm pretty sure the compression is at the maximum withing the AVI, and I don't think it can be compress much more. EDIT : well it can be compress a little bit, I took Rockman TAS 28megs down to 24megs but it's not much...
Joined: 2/26/2007
Posts: 1365
Location: Minnesota
Well, I will let all other, more programming competent, members continue my theorizing XD
adelikat wrote:
I very much agree with this post.
Bobmario511 wrote:
Forget party hats, Christmas tree hats all the way man.
Joined: 3/7/2006
Posts: 720
Location: UK
Well yeah, the point of encoding is to compress (lossily) the video stream. You will get quite small gains by compressing (losslessly) it again.
Voted NO for NO reason