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  • Aims for fastest time
  • Abuses programming errors
  • Manipulates luck
  • Takes damage to save time
The goal of this run was to beat the previous run by at least 2 seconds (60 frames). Thanks to a series of improvements I found, this was more than possible, and I actually managed to save more than 4 seconds in the process, which I never expected would happen initially. The exact number of frames saved over the previous run is 133, which is 4.43 seconds.

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This is the first run I've done without AKA. I found a rather large timesaver in the lobby, and told AKA about it, but he said he'd "let me claim this one", so I did it myself. It was quite a good experience, since it's the first full run I've done on my own, but overall, I preferred coauthoring this game over doing it myself.
Overall, I'm very happy with the outcome of this run. I think it looks a lot cleaner than the last one.

Improvements over the previous run...

Before the castle

A new strat was used here, which utilised jumping and diving. This saved one frame over just doing long jumps to the castle. I spent days trying to come up with a faster strategy, but after everything else I tried being at least a frame slower, I came to the conclusion that what I had there was optimal.

Inside the castle

The first timesaver I found, as I mentioned above, was in the lobby. This was done by BLJing on the opposite set of stairs from what one would normally BLJ on (the ones outside Bob-omb Battlefield). After doing a series of quick BLJs, I did one large BLJ, then managed to fit in another quick BLJ before shooting off. When Mario left the stairs, I guided him into the porch, and managed to get him merged in the vertex, so he could turn around enough to make it to the stairs in the center of the room. If he hadn't gotten merged with the vertex, he wouldn't have been able to turn around enough to make it onto the stairs. I tested this extensively. I also tested doing something similar on the JRB stairs, which proved to be several frames slower. This new strategy saved 50 frames over the previous strategy, which is just over 1.5 seconds.
However, I then started thinking about beginning the BLJ from further away from the wall, just in case I'd be able to fit more BLJs in on the step, potentially preventing the need for that "slow" BLJ. I also thoroughly experimented with which step to BLJ on, and the second from the bottom turned out to be the fastest. After many hours of tedious experimentation, I finally got it to work, and this saved an additional 28 frames (just under 1 second), bringing the total number of frames saved at this stage up to 77, which is just over 2.5 seconds.

Bowser in the Dark World

The next timesaver I found was something which, after I did it, I was surprised that me and AKA hadn't done it in the last run. In Bowser in the Dark World, rather than killing some of the speed after BLJing by doing a normal jump, I kept Mario at full speed, and just took a slightly different path, utilising diving rather than jump kicking. This saved 28 frames, which is just under 1 second.
However, after redoing the section before BitDW, I decided to redo BitDW too, because I felt I could've made it more entertaining. So I did, and also managed to save another 4 frames, which brought the total number of frames saved in BitDW to 32, which is just over 1 second.
As for the first Bowser battle, I found that if I manipulated him to swing at Mario right after the battle started, I was able to grab his tail 2 frames earlier than the normal method, but sadly, this put Mario too far away from the bomb for it to ultimately save any time. So I just did the traditional method, as it is still the fastest.

From BitDW to BitFS

After BitDW, I tested a lot of different move combinations, and concluded that a jump kick followed by a long jump was the fastest. It got Mario into the correct position for doing the BLJ quicker than any other combination of moves. This meant I was able to start BLJing earlier than in the previous run. 6 frames were saved in this section.
As for the basement, no frames were gained here. I tried for days to eliminate the need for the "slow" BLJ outside the 30 star door, but it just wasn't happening. The reason for this is that, if I did do another BLJ on the stairs, although I was actually able to do it, it was only possible through obscure analogue movements, which effectively zeroed Mario's speed anyway. And as was the case in the last run, a very precise speed was needed to bypass DDD, and I wouldn't have maintained that speed all the way from the stairs to the entrance to DDD, even if I had somehow accumulated it on the stairs. The buttslam is also still required, because it's the only move which cancels his speed suddenly enough for him to fall into the level. If you dive, he just shoots to the back of the area. So all I did differently here was change the camera angles while Mario was falling into BitFS.

Bowser in the Fire Sea

AKA suggested trying a series of dives at the start of the level, similar to what was done outside the castle. I tried this, and sadly, it ended up being slower than the traditional method, so I went with that. No frames were gained on the first tier of the level, but 4 were gained on the second tier and moving platform area, thanks to a new combination of moves, and curving Mario around the moving platforms, rather than doing a jump dive. (also suggested by AKA) At the end of BitFS, I did a slide kick into the lava, instead of the traditional jump dive. mr_roberts_z came up with this strat, and it saved 2 frames.
In the actual battle, I managed to save 1 frame, thanks to my positioning while swinging Bowser. I have no idea how we missed this in the previous run. So overall, 7 frames were saved in BitFS over the previous run.

From BitFS to BitS

While entering DDD to get back to the lobby of the castle, I managed to save 4 frames. The only explanation for this I can come up with is that in the previous run, we paused 4 frames too late without realising it. I have no idea how we managed that, but there's no other explanation for the frames I gained.
No frames were saved in either of the next two rooms, but in the room with the first stair BLJ, 2 frames were saved while BLJing. In the blue room, an additional frame was saved on the way to the star door at the top of the room.
In the room with the Endless Stairs, 5 frames were saved. This was thanks to not LJing onto the stairs, but rather doing a jump kick, because it put me within reach of performing the BLJ much quicker than the LJ did. This saved 10 frames on starting the BLJ, but in the end, only 5 were actually saved, since Mario was closer to the bottom of the stairs when he began BLJing, so he had more distance to travel before reaching BitS.
So overall, 12 frames were saved in this section of the run.

Bowser in the Sky

This part of the run was already optimal in the previous run. I did manage to get to the lifts at the end 3 frames quicker, but this gain meant that the lifts were in a bad position, and ultimately cost way more time than it saved. So I just did what was done in the previous run. As for the stuff after the lifts, it too was optimal. I tried some new strats, like stutter jumping after the second LJ, but that proved to be really slow. I used a slightly different strat right before entering the pipe, but it didn't save, or cost any time. I just did it because it looked cooler.
As for the battle, again, no frames were saved, because it was already optimal. We spent hours doing that in the last run, making sure we hit the correct bombs on the correct frames, etc. All I changed was the stuff I did while waiting for Bowser's speech after killing him.

With thanks to...

mr_roberts_z, for helping me test a lot of stuff relating to the post-BitDW BLJ. He also provided constructive criticism for every part of the run, and consequently helped me improve it by telling me his ideas for improvements. He also did some hex editing for me, and stayed awake into the early hours of the morning on several occasions so that I didn't have to stop working on the run for that night. (in case he was able to find improvements in what I had done)
AKA, for coauthoring several runs with me in the past, which gave me the experience necessary to create a run as optimal as this. He also introduced me to Memory Hacking Software, which allowed me to monitor Mario's speed, which helped a LOT with the BLJing. He also provided constructive criticism at every part of the run, and suggested several new methods of improvement, particularly in the last 2 Bowser levels. He also showed me how to hex edit towards the end of the run, which saved me from bugging mr_roberts_z or him when I needed some hexing done from that point on.
Rikku, for coming up with that strategy for getting to the castle. He found this while working on the new 120 star TAS with mr_roberts_z. It may only save 1 frame, but it's still something.


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Yes! Yes! Oh, God Yes! ...for obvious reasons.
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Awesome. Awesome to the max. It's better in every way than the last one. Bravo.
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This is awesome!
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I enjoyed the camera angles, the time improvement is very surprising, and congrats on a very unexpected submission!
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Congrats on a nice improvement to a run that surprised everyone.
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I don't know what this poor game did to deserve this, but I like it. Yes, obviously. Has this run reached "perfect" status, yet?
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I don't know what this poor game did to deserve this, but I like it. Yes, obviously. Has this run reached "perfect" status, yet?
I predict that in 10 years, it will still keep getting improved. :)
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Just like what others have said.... unexpected (didn't see this one coming), awesome and entertaining run! I like the camera angle you've used when Mario is running along the edge of the lava pool before entering to fight Bowser. The side view is a fresh perspective to watch Mario running there. An easy YES vote!
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really nice, obvious yes vote. Funny that the lobby glitch has totally given way to the stairs method popularized in the basement.
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Congrats on this. Quite an accomplishment :)
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In this, is the theoretical value to have been achieved?
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Wow... just wow EDIT: oh and yes vote
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The great TASes this year just keep coming and coming... I hope the rest of 2008 will be as awesome, impossible as it might seem. Amazing improvement, something like 5000 frames more than I thought possible.
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Didn't you say you improved the first Bowser battle? Also you forgot to mention you managed to grab his tail a few frames earlier when he does his swing but frames begin to be lost when you start swinging him. If you'd asked me how much improvement was possible, I would have said 2 maybe 3 seconds certainly nothing bordering on 5. My favourite part was when you did the tackle across the lava. I thought the start of the Bowser 2 battle was one of the signature parts in the last run, but you did something even cooler this time and with a further refinement. It was a damm shame that all those difficult to find improvements in BitS went to waste because of the bad lift positioning at the end :-( As for the most surprising improvement I'd have to say that its the strat you use in BitDW. I really don't have much in the way of improvements since you tested everything I could suggest and found stuff that I didn't think would be possible. Avoiding the slow BLJ in the basement is about the only potential (some noticable) improvement left, but like you mentioned to me you tried for hours on end without success. Anyway, super speacial awesome yes vote.
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*cues up Beck - Hell Yes* I continue to be impressed with unexpected improvements. And even stylistic improvements, to boot! Raise those thumbs high!
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Unexpected and impressive improvement, swordless link. Good job The part I like the most was using the boost longer in BitDW. Also cool new methods discovered mr_Roberts_z, AKA and Rikku.
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I like it - that summerizes my thought about this very good. Like emu, I think the best part was the boost in BitDW - insane gaming pushed to its maximum. Next time, I'd like to see a -1 star run:)
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God damn how do you always make it faster Swordless Link you don't even have a sword yes vote, I don't think I have to explain why.
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Excellent. :)
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Fantabolous. :)
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Mario: Forget all of this collecting stars. I want to play the "Wack a Bowser Game." Well done Swordless Link, well done!
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That was hot. Stylistically I prefer this run to the current one. It's great that you can still keep these runs fresh after so many versions. Voting yes on this, good job as always Swordless :D
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Voting yes. Favourite screenshots available at http://www.bluetoaster.net/tasvideos/sm64sl/. Hotlinked to avoid spoilers (though theres not really anything new...)
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Voting yes.