This is nothing new to me; you simply can't make anything happen out of those tricks that will save time. I challenge you to prove me wrong though.
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The purple door doesn't either, It was when I realized this I understood why they made a purple door, because red and orange both wouldn't work.
I just realized this but the blue door to the zeebeties doesn't switch it either, that's odd, this I don't understand.
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There are a few doors that don't switch from horizontal to vertical. I think the scrolling operates on a data table, not just switching back and forth.
Extra two energy tanks, what do you mean? All energy tanks must be picked up. I think both icebeams must be picked up, since they are both items on the map.
Any chance you'll make another metroid run Zoizite?
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I should've said this, but I'm asking because 100% runs of Metroid 2 don't seem to pick up duplicate/extra items. If it weren't necessary to pick them up, there is a decent chance of having a very different route. It would require heavy testing, though.
Spider-Waffle wrote:
Any chance you'll make another metroid run Zoizite?
I'm heavily considering yet another attempt on a 100% run. It's overdue for an update. HotD's run piqued my interest again and I haven't had much to do lately. I've done a few rooms already, and managed to improve the strategy yet again for the 3rd room. It would also allow me to use some of the new techniques I've learned since my last published run.
Almost forgot: Are there any other shortcuts you have found besides the one going from the NW dead end to Screw Attack area? I've tried most of the ideas I had already, and none of them worked out.
If for honesty, you want apologies, I don't sympathize.
I dont' consider the new metroid 2 run to 100% because it doesn't pick up every item on the map. Which ice beam were you thinking of skipping? The only way I see this saves time is by skipping the norfair icebeam and just getting the 2 missile packs and leaving that row. Well actually that's not true, you could probably skip the brinstar one and just do like 20 bomb boosts in a row to get up that collumn, I'm pretty damn sure that's possible.
There's three downward door glitches I know about that havn't been used before. The one in Norfair to go from the top left column on the bottom left column, I think this is the one you were thinking about. Then there's another in Norfair. After the screw attack, go all the way down that column then you can to the row below. And the third is in brinstar, you can go from the ice beam column to the row with the lone missile pack, right next to the elevator. This one I don't see a use for for saving time unfortunately.
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Zoizite wrote:
I should've said this, but I'm asking because 100% runs of Metroid 2 don't seem to pick up duplicate/extra items. If it weren't necessary to pick them up, there is a decent chance of having a very different route. It would require heavy testing, though.
The Metroid 2 run picks up both extra E-Tanks but each beam only once, which is what the SDA run did.
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RT-55J wrote:
Zoizite wrote:
I should've said this, but I'm asking because 100% runs of Metroid 2 don't seem to pick up duplicate/extra items. If it weren't necessary to pick them up, there is a decent chance of having a very different route. It would require heavy testing, though.
The Metroid 2 run picks up both extra E-Tanks but each beam only once, which is what the SDA run did.
I guess I missed it the first time I watched it. I watched it again and he does pick up the extra Energy Tanks.
If for honesty, you want apologies, I don't sympathize.
C'mon Z do a run. any% would be quick and you could prolly beat it by 3 seconds or more. Or 100% would be great too, but that's like 5 times longer and more dense with hard to optimized parts.
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Hi, I apologize if this has been covered but this topic is way to long to search through. I can't seem to get the .fmv for the run called NES "100%" Metroid (USA) in 41:43.33 by AP (aka. Zoizite) to work. The run is fine until just after getting the ice beam. At this point Samus can't get out of the shaft leading back to the main area. I have the latest version of Famtasia and the lastest version of the .fmv. I am using the exact rom listed on the submission page. Is this a known issue? And can anyone help me see this run?
Hi, I apologize if this has been covered but this topic is way to long to search through. I can't seem to get the .fmv for the run called NES "100%" Metroid (USA) in 41:43.33 by AP (aka. Zoizite) to work. The run is fine until just after getting the ice beam. At this point Samus can't get out of the shaft leading back to the main area. I have the latest version of Famtasia and the lastest version of the .fmv. I am using the exact rom listed on the submission page. Is this a known issue? And can anyone help me see this run?
Hi, I apologize if this has been covered but this topic is way to long to search through. I can't seem to get the .fmv for the run called NES "100%" Metroid (USA) in 41:43.33 by AP (aka. Zoizite) to work. The run is fine until just after getting the ice beam. At this point Samus can't get out of the shaft leading back to the main area. I have the latest version of Famtasia and the lastest version of the .fmv. I am using the exact rom listed on the submission page. Is this a known issue? And can anyone help me see this run?
you should download the .avi instead.
I appreciate the suggestion, but I would really like to find a vaild .fmv if that is possible.
No one is working on it that was made public at least. There's some new tricks in norfair which make a better route. Many seconds of improvement would come from minor optimizations, such as reducing lag by manipulating enemy behavior and spawns. There's also several little tricks you can do to cut frames through-out the run.
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That's cool. I am not sure what you did differently, but it seems like Kraid's starting position is determined by what frame you enter his room. Is that right? This would be a pretty good timesaver for the run. Sometime in the future I might be motivated to make a 2nd run, since there is another potential timesaver in the first vertical shaft.
Here's what I think is happening: Kraid's stomach missiles will block your shots, but you can get some shots in on him between the missiles while falling for the first time. Those will freeze Kraid, and while he's frozen, his missiles actually become vulnerable to be stunned. If they are stunned, Kraid will walk forward and leave his missiles behind, allowing you to shoot and damage him. If you keep Kraid stunned, the missiles will stay stunned.
Unfortunately, even though I thought I was stunning him constantly, he threw a missile at me and I died. There's got to be some way around that.
Found Kraid's HP: 040B. He apparently starts out with 96 HP. (60 in hex). My movie gets his HP down to 44 (2C in hex) before he fires the missile that kills me.
