This topic is for the purpose of discussing #1520: Aqfaq's Genesis Humans in 43:19.22

TASing a game named Humans after a game named Gods… Man, your standards are falling!

Haha, wow, that's a good one. I never thought about that. :)

Alright, just watched it. The solutions were smart and everything was rather interesting, but in the second half it became tedious. I still enjoyed it, though, but it's a very borderline yes. On the downsides: lack of music, great length, long fadeouts and morph sequences. I also predict people's major discontent with screen jerking, even though it was ok with (and even good for) me. Random notes about the run: • the ways you dealt with dinosaurs were hilarious; • the ship in the ending scene reminded me of your Starflight run. I can't believe how everything is interconnected!

wow, it did not feel all that long and boring as I expected. It was even funny sometimes~ I did not read submission text before watching, so I could not understand why kill all those humans, but now it looks like it's really well planned~

I used to play this game, so watching this was even better. I knew just how frustrating this game can be firsthand, haha. Lots of really cool glitchwork here, tons of great finds! Eighty levels, though, dang, but it was entertaining for the large part, one way or another. Gotta give this a yes.

Haha I thought this run was pretty entertaining and silly. Loved the sound of those cavemen when they completed a stage :) Voting yes.

Well, it was good, but it was long, and I'm sure if the run is good enough for the length of the game, so I'm going to abstain from voting.

Seriously, could you pick some GOOD genesis games for once?

No, I like bad games. Show me a bad (short) game and I'll do it immediately. I'm afraid there's not many good games left. Any ideas?

DARK CASTLE!!! Oh wait... nvm. Oh, I found a crappy one you might like. It's called Socket: Time dominator. I have no idea how long is though.

Socket: Time dominator

I already love the name.

You invented the wheel. You saved the queen. You had a creepy shaman on your side. I vote yes.

Socket: Time dominator

I already love the name.

I created a thread on it a while ago that no one read, probably with good reason. It's a sonic ripoff with a duck who has an electrical cord for a tail. Yes you just read that right. EDIT: Anywho, about the run. I can only imagine how long this would have been if you hadn't so heavily abused bugs, especially the climbing bug. I watched it at school so I couldn't have the sound on and wasn't able to get that part of the movie, and the jerking back and forth between cavemen was horrible at a couple points, but thankfully it wasn't a constant problem. I've never been a huge fan of watching puzzle runs, but this one has enough action and humorous moments to keep it entertaining. So... strong meh or weak yes.... umm... I'll give it a weak yes.

Oh, my. Level 12's polevault onto the dinosaur to kill it... You are my hero. This, and the rest of the incredible run scores an easy yes from me.

(off topic slightly but still related to previous question, so skip if you don't want to see a genesis fanboy spouting out about games) good genesis games without a TAS: alisia dragoon shining force 2 castlevania: bloodlines monster world 4 soldiers of fortune revenge of shinobi ranger x phantasy star 2 and 4 landstalker crusader of centy beyond oasis alien soldier warsong mega turrican rolling thunder 2 Of course, knowing you, your next game will be "buck rogers: countdown to doomsday."

monster world 4

I have started it, but I'm afraid to continue recording, because I have no plan conserning gold and equipment. Any planning help would be appreciated.

castlevania: bloodlines alien soldier

Already being worked on, if my informartion is correct.

Of course, knowing you, your next game will be "buck rogers: countdown to doomsday."

Hey, Buck Rogers: Countdown to Doomsday was awesome! Also, Shining Force I and II have been attempted... as of yet nobody has been able to manipulate combat well enough for it to be feasible. And Landstalker was attempted. It's far too long.

As others before me, I have to give this a weak yes; the solutions are very creative, but the run itself starts to get boring and repetitive towards the end.

One question: on level 18, around frame 31970, could it be faster to have the rightmost guy jump to the right with the spear and then throw it back, instead of handing it over directly and walking to the right? It seemed like you used this solution (or a similar one) elsewhere.

Thanks. I'm (once again) very impressed at your ability to spot stuff like that. However, I can't quite understand what you mean. That may be due to my brain being used to certain kind of reasoning with this game, so that I can't see all the different types of possibilities. Afterall, it's a puzzle game, and I've watched those tiny guys do their stuff for quite long. I'll look into it later.

It seemed like you used this solution (or a similar one) elsewhere.

The game is full of little details that force the perfect player to use different solutions for seemingly similar situations. Sometimes the same solution can be bad simply due to a different number of useless humans in the level. In level 18, there are 5 humans, but only 3 of them go for the climb bug. Because the humans can be switched in one direction only, 4 frames are lost every round without proper planning. Here's a hypotethical (but typical) example with 5 humans (though it's not necessarily related to what you had in mind): Human A (with a spear): jump, switch to B Human B: walk, start falling off a ledge, switch to C Human C: walk, start climbing a ladder, switch to D Useless human D: idle 1 frame and switch to E (This guy used 2 frames, because max speed for switching humans is 30hz.) Useless human E: idle 1 frame and switch to A (This guy used 2 frames.) Human A: If the previous jump still lasts more than 5 frames, idle 1 frame and switch to B. Otherwise: Start a new jump before switching to B. With more humans it can get much more complicated than this, so it's likely that I've made a few mistakes somewhere. Another typical situation: Spear-jump on a flat ground uses 6 idle frames, so 4 useless humans is enough to outweigh the benefit of switching between the jumps. More questions like that would be nice, although I can't guarantee an answer that makes sense.

I guess I'm going to be the one to hate... I voted Meh.. and here's why. It appeared to be an interesting concept for a game... it's played well, obviously... but... well... alright... that bloody climbing glitch actually bored me to tears! That with certain other moments coming off as far too repetitive... it made my decision VERY difficult, so I actually thought this over for 2 days. It's not a bad movie perse... just honestly didn't totally thrill me. Not bad enough to rank No, but not great enough for a Yay... And I have tried watching this 2 more times to ensure it wasn't me just being tired the first time :( Sorry... but unlike most cowards, I figured I'd be honest about my vote, especially since it stands out. Mr. Kelly R. Flewin

Sorry... but unlike most cowards, I figured I'd be honest about my vote, especially since it stands out.

I don't get why you have to be so defensive about voicing your opinion in response a highly subjective question. You should stick up for your convictions, and if anyone gives you flak, give it right back. Besides, it's not like others weren't close to voting Meh instead of Yes...

Meh vote. The tricks used were nifty, but the run was long and for the most part it was the same tricks over and over. If this were a 10 minute game I would give it a yes.