In before browser wars.
Anyway I got IE7 (the tabs are nice), but now I can't view Japanese characters anymore; not that I can read them anyway, but those boxes are annoying. Anyone out there know how to fix this?
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You mean you can't view them even though you can in other browsers? That's kind of strange. Maybe it just doesn't know how to detect the character encoding correctly. Are there any Japanese language sites you can visit at all?
EDIT: this site has the character encoding added to the header of the document properly, i.e. -charset=Shift_JIS"-. Does it work for you?
The header on the tab/title bar shows up just fine, but in the actual page it's nothing but a bunch of squares.
Oh and just to clarify, I used IE6 before this, and Japanese (and Chinese) characters showed up just fine.
IE7 is a shameful ripoff of Firefox in almost every single way. Microsoft should be ashamed of themselves (I'm currently only use IE7 because firefox doesn't work with many of the sites that I visit regularly).
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I never upgraded to IE7 because I heard somewhere you needed SP2 for that, and I reuse to upgrade to SP2. I have a laptop, so if drivers get messed up or something, I can't just replace my hardware... my laptop turns into a paperweight.
Earlier today, I actually saw a computer running IE7 for the first time. My initial reaction was "Whoa... this looks just like FireFox."
IE7 is a shameful ripoff of Firefox in almost every single way.
My initial reaction was "Whoa... this looks just like FireFox."
Just to say... My initial reaction when i saw Firefox was "This is like Opera, but without the good things"
Take the browser wars off a cliff, please... but I do agree with Nibelung. ;D
IE7 might just not be detecting it right. You'd probably be better off asking Mircosoft support or reinstalling the language pack (or whatever it was), or switching the encoding it uses to "Default" or "Auto" or whatever.
My last point and then I'm shutting up.
I don't generally dislike IE, just this edition. I use IE for rapid surfing and Firefox for rapidly downloading non-torrented files (like the new Majora's Mask run, I have al 29 downloads running at once. Sweeeeeet).
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theenglishman wrote:
I'm currently only use IE7 because firefox doesn't work with many of the sites that I visit regularly.
hmmm...
IE7 is a shameful ripoff of Firefox in almost every single way.
except that it works sometimes when firefox doesnt?
Microsoft should be ashamed of themselves
because they have a product thats almost exactly like firefox, but it works on many sites where firefox doesnt? They should be commended for creating a better product.
because they have a product thats almost exactly like firefox, but it works on many sites where firefox doesnt? They should be commended for creating a better product.
It is my belief that almost always, when a site works on IE but not on Firefox, it is because the site has been designed primarily for IE users. Often, this means starting off the site design using standard, browser-independent coding, but in the end, using hacky tricks to overcome bugs and shortcomings in IE just to make it render right, which at the same time sacrifice compatibility with other browsers.
Sometimes, Opera gets it right because one of Opera's design priorities is to be combatible with IE-only site designs. Firefox does not particularly aim for that goal.
I really wouldn't commend IE for displaying "correctly" such sites, because IE is at fault for those sites being broken to begin with.
(Note: I have not used IE7; I'm only commenting on my experience on IE6, and from my experience as a web programmer/designer)
Just out of personal experience, I have more problems with the latest version of Firefox than I do with IE7. Firefox tends to lag the crap out of my system, it locks up frequently when the Adobe Acrobat plugin attempts to load, and it frequently neglects to load stylesheets.
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Twelvepack wrote:
IE7 is a shameful ripoff of Firefox in almost every single way.
except that it works sometimes when firefox doesnt?
Microsoft should be ashamed of themselves
because they have a product thats almost exactly like firefox, but it works on many sites where firefox doesnt? They should be commended for creating a better product.
I would put the blame on lazy web designers who can't even be bothered to make sure their website doesn't suck. I haven't run into any problems with Firefox. If I encounter a website that doesn't work, I don't bother looking at it because frankly, a website not working in Firefox is the equivalent of a big sign saying "our webmasters are stoopid". If I am forced to look at a website that doesn't work in Firefox, it's not a great hassle to fire up IE just for that one website. It happens less often all the time, though. I think the webmasters of the world might be getting a clue.
Oh and for those who just discovered tabs recently, welcome to eight years ago (or whenever tabs were first invented). :D
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Blublu wrote:
a website not working in Firefox is the equivalent of a big sign saying "our webmasters are stoopid".
That goes a little far...
I know of a few websites that are designed owned and operated by people with almost no tchnological knowlage (and consequently their shit only opens in IE), but that only makes the site itslf bad, not the value of their content.
At this point I really dont see why this is such a big issue. There are several alternatives, all of which are free, work almost all the time and only have minor interface difference. It just doesnt matter all that much.
it locks up frequently when the Adobe Acrobat plugin attempts to load
Because Acrobat sucks. :P
Try the FoxIt reader instead.
On an on-topic note, I'm using firefox 3 and I love it (the firefox 3 alpha, gran paradiso, to be exact). I can't see japanese characters either, but I don't care much since I don't know the language.
