This topic is for the purpose of discussing #1396: adelikat's NES Contra "pacifist" in 09:46.38

I checked via ram addresses

Can you write them somewhere?

058x are enemy hp addresses for most enemies. The only exception are: The level 4 bosses are located in 057D & E The level 2 boss is in another address but I have lost that one.

This one seems more interesting than the last one. Probably because the odds were against you; you had to lose the Spread Shot in order to stay within the pacifist goal. I wondered something throughout the movie. Wouldn't it have been faster to destroy the boss by jumping and shooting from the get go (in the level in which you get and lose the Spread Shot, you know, the boss that resembles a flying saucer-like enemy) or was standing there shooting to manipulate the things that come out of it? Or is it no faster either way?

I know what you are talking about. And I considered that too. What I did was the better solution but I can't remember why I thought that. Dunno, maybe I am an idiot.

Hey, could pacifism include not shooting the footballs for weapons? I'm sure the flying footballs feel pain too.

Regardless, this is a really nice Pacifist run so you get my yes vote.

>And I considered that too. What I did was the better solution but I can't remember why I thought that. Does the max firing speed depend on when the previous projectiles have left the screen, or is it timed independently? If it's the former, you should jump all the time. If it's the latter, you should shoot the first salvo as far away as possible, and the last one as close as possible, the others doesn't matter. Judging from what you did, it works in the latter way, but I remember it working like the former. I'll check again.

you can only have 4 of your bullets on the screen at one time.

This movie has been published. The posts before this message apply to the submission, and posts after this message apply to the published movie. ---- [756] NES Contra (Japan) "pacifist" by adelikat in 09:46.38

Congrats on the first published run of the new year!

and there goes my one feeble claim as a player on this website...

While Contra just isn't Contra without exploding stuff everywhere, this movie accomplishes its goals nicely. Yes vote.

Very cool. Sorry to cast doubt on your original, but I think this looks way cooler than the non-dying, tank-killing one.

It is good.I like "pacifist".But I prefer to pacifist with fire all the time.~~~~hehehehe

Add this category: Abuses programming errors in the game because he used Jumping Glitch in Stage 3. On Stage 5, you died on Tanks rather than killing the Tank to achieve the Pacifist Goal.

"Abuses Programming Errors in the Game" added. Thanks.

(after almost one year this movie has been published) I ask to myself why does he shoot in the middle of the stages. Sometimes he shoots diagonally upwards onto nowhere (for instance, at the level with spiky walls). Why does he does that? To manipulate luck or something? Also, I was watching both the new and the obsoleted videos (AVI versions) side-by-side. The obsoleted used an US version, while this uses a Japanese version. I'm curious about the changes between these versions. I noticed the pre-level screens were skipped in JPN version. It also has has animated tree leafs, snow and animated alien background. However, the US version appears to have more enemies on the first level and at the stage 4 boss. So, I ask: were these enemy changes just manipulated in the movie or the ROMs have slightly different enemies on some levels? Also, the JPN version looks faster (it gets further in game before the US version). Does this happen because of improved TAS-playing or because JPN version is actually a bit faster? I'm just curious, I don't plan to make any TAS soon. :)

1) When I shoot diagonally up or down it is with the spread gun. This is to set up a "single stream" spread gun. This technique is explained futher in my 2-player version. 2) There are no differences between the J & U versions other than what you meantioned. Level transitions are skippable and there is extra level animation in some levels. 3) Enemies are manipulated away since it is a pacifist run and this keeps me from having to jump over them (which costs 1 frame). 4) In addition to the Rom being faster due to the level transisions, there is significantly better TAS playing which is where most of the time savings comes from. I reccomend reading the comments on the previous version of this TAS: http://tasvideos.org/1368S.html Most of the relevant info is in that submission text.

1) When I shoot diagonally up or down it is with the spread gun. This is to set up a "single stream" spread gun. This technique is explained futher in my 2-player version.

I see a few shots onto nowhere at 08:01, 08:05, 08:11, 08:18, all of them without the spread gun (which you get at 08:23). (I'm using the AVI file for convenience)

I reccomend reading the comments on the previous version of this TAS: http://tasvideos.org/1368S.html

Yes, I've read the comments from that movie, and also from your 2-player run. I asked because I still had doubts about it, even after reading those comments. Thank you very much for replying so fast!

Ah, I see what you are talking about. Those shots are to manipulate enemy patterns. Either to manipulate them to not appear or to appear behind me rather than in front of me (or vice versa).

Level transitions of U versions is a little long,and it's no meaning. I think the efficacy of picture in J versions is nicer than in U versions.Because U versions is 128K,and J versions is 256K. adelikat~~~It seems that you jump up in your 2-Player but not this run. Look here

I did the pacifist run before the 2-player, and I didn't discover the jump until the 2-player movie. I have a wip of the pacifist run that finishes level 3 60 frames faster due to that jump. But I haven't had the motivation to finish it.