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After years of delay, I bring you Shining Force 2 in 3 hours, 26 minutes and 17 seconds.
  • Takes damage to save time
  • Uses death as a short cut
  • Intentionally kill party members to save time
  • Manipulates luck
  • Plays on "Ouch" difficulty setting
  • Uses secret configuration to speed up cursor
  • Skips Battles (any%)
  • Extensive use of Lua

The Game

Shining Force 2 is a turn-based strategy RPG, and has been on IGN’s top 100 games of all time. The game consists of up to 12 player-controlled characters going against a group of CPU controlled monsters. The characters gain their own experience and levels. Each battle is fought, and ends when all enemies or a boss enemy is dead. I will be discussing the game in ‘halves;’ as the tempo of the TAS changes dramatically after battle 25. During first half of the game, 14 of the 25 battles require that you kill all enemies to proceed. During the second half, all battles rely on ‘boss sniping,’ or going after the single enemy that will end the battle.

The making of the run

This run was my first run that I can say was completely reliant on Lua. After my most recent WIP, I realized it had been ages since I had actually even looked at the RAM Watch window sitting open, dusty, and abandoned next to my Gens window. The way the RNG had to be manipulated (see RNG manipulation) required a guess/check methodology. However, since going through each iteration by hand would be near impossible, I had Lua do the leg work. My work consisted of using 7 Lua scripts to do all of the grunt work and calculations, which I will describe below. The scripts made TASing the game entertaining and fun, as opposed to grunt work. Don't be thrown off by the rerecord count - Lua did the majority of rerecords.

RNG Manipulation

The RNG of SF2 is a 16-bit sequential loop. It can only change for one of three conditions: A call for a random value, a text box pause, or sitting in a menu. For the two ones that can be manipulated, the RNG advances one step per frame. To cycle through all 65,536 values of the RNG would take 18 minutes! Additionally, this also means I only get 1 chance to access the RNG per-character turn, which limits my ability to manipulate the enemy movements, attacks, and etc. While most worthwhile attacks/rounds are available within the first 60 frames, there are a few waits that are a few hundred frames long, unfortunately. I did my best to minimize wait time in menus.

Attack Power and Leveling

The single most important factor to making this run is attack power. For the majority of characters, 1 attack is the most they can gain per level. The three characters used in the run all have the ability to gain more attack, +2 for Bowie and Slade, and +3 for Peter. However, these values are rare for the early, unpromoted levels (~10-20% for Peter and Bowie). Unfortunately, this system also means that quite a few enemies must be killed that otherwise wouldn’t be obstacles to the boss sniping. Also, as a side note, this system is ridiculous for a TAS. If you figure that +2 for Bowie and Slade is essentially gaining 100% more attack, then every +2 you get is like gaining two levels. Luckily, the game does not change the probability based on your current attack. This makes for an absurd amount of attack for Peter at the end of the game.
This introduces the idea of Priming. Since we only have 1 access to the RNG, it can be extremely difficult to manipulate both a double attack and an optimal level gain. So, most of the early game is spent attacking enemies twice. This primes the enemy to give one of the main characters the chance to do a maximum level gain. You will notice a ton of priming in the first half of the game.
Additionally, with the use of the Power Ring, every +3 Peter gains is ~+4.5 after casting Attack Spell with the Power Ring.

The Characters

Bowie (Named Z)

Bowie is a crappy hero. I needed him strong enough to 1-hit Taros without wasting a Power potion on him, as those are reserved for Slade and Peter. However, once we finish the first half of the game, he is no longer required for any battle. So, during the second half of the game, you’ll see him take on a different role

Slade

The Ninja Rat is bad ass. His probability for +2 attack grows exponentially, so less and less time is spent priming enemies in favor of straight up ass-kicking. However, once promoted, he can only gain +0 or +1 attack, which is why he spends a majority of the game un-promoted. +2 attack per-level far outweighs the benefit of post-promotion weapons.

Peter

The obnoxious bird does it again. Pre-promotion, Peter has a very low chance of getting +3 per level. Additionally, his un-promoted MOV is one less than his promoted MOV. However, promotion cures that ill, and turns him into the strongest character in the game. In addition, early promotion allows me to use the Turbo Pepper on him. During the entire second half of the game, he has 11 MOV!

Sarah

Poor Sarah. She is dragged through the game, at level 1, helplessly sitting at the back of the battle, watching everyone else become powerhouses. While this may seem strange, she serves a very important role. By staying at level 1 and never attacking, her turn always happens right before the next round of battle begins. This gives me a chance to access the RNG, and directly select which battle order I want. However, her fate is questionable...

Kazin

Kazin's Desoul is great. It kills most of the bosses in the game, and with the turbo pepper, he becomes a boss killing machine. Disregard that, Kazin sucks ass. My first long WIP relied on Kazin to desoul bosses. The problem is, it gives levels and movement boosting items to someone who won't have a use for them, in the later stages of the game.

Secret Configuration

By entering a code before the title screen, the secret configuration can be accessed, and set for ‘fast mode’. This was done to reduce the amount of boredom caused by cursor movements. I opted for this after it was requested in the SF2 thread. It has no effect on the most important part of the run, the luck manipulation. It also does not affect the speed of attacks, or text. I also made this choice, because, unlike SF1, it is impossible to pick the perfect battle order for every round. A side note, while it suppresses the animations of the pop-up text boxes and menus, it doesn’t actually speed them up!
This may have been a bad decision to some; however, I went ahead since it is what the majority of WIP-watchers had requested. It makes an already-long movie shorter and (hopefully) more watch-able.

Lua Scripts

MidBattleOrder

For Sarah, when run on her turn, allows you to select which battle order for the next round. Commands include: Before - select one character to go before another. Remove - Remove a character from the current length count. Next - Change what you are looking at. Select Round - the script auto-executes and gets the round desired. Tells you the est. length of the round, based on current character positions.

StartBattleOrder

Same as MidBattleOrder, without some of the automation, for starting battles (obviously)

GenericAttack

Executes a single simple attack. Commands include: More - get more battle rounds, Next - Show page of other info. Tells you the length of the attack, all changes to characters caused by attack (Level up, Stats change, death). After a round is selected, the script automates the rest of the manipulation

FullAttack

This script has less automation, but also allows you to do magic, items, and etc. Has similar functionality to GenericAttack, but the script continues until your next character’s turn. Also, it has a map function, which tracks enemy movements, so you can manipulate those as well. Requires selecting of the proper RNG value by hand. The map has a shrunk mode and expanded mode.

MoveChars

This script allows you to left click, and pick up and put characters down on the map. This was helpful for testing strategies. Also, right clicking brings up an icon of the character stats. Also, the current and next 5 RNG steps are listed at the bottom of the screen.

Battles

Battle 1

This battle seems to be one of the more difficult ones. Chester can only defeat Gizmos that are within the staircase area, as it has 0% land effect. Also, since Sarah attacks, it is difficult to manipulate both a double hit, and the correct battle order.

Battle 2

This battle contains one of those long waits for +2 Atk for Bowie. It pays off next battle, as he is able to start 1-hitting rats.

Battle 3

Standard kill all enemies battle. The AI in the far corner wastes time moving away from the player. I was unable to manipulate those movements away.

Battle 4

It was a surprise discovery of mine that this battle doesn't need to be completed. Score one for messing around with a game.

Battle 5

The movement glitch shows its power! Walking over walls makes for good times.

Battle 6

Another clear out all enemies battle. Boring, but not much can be done about that.

Battle 7

This battle actually has two boss creatures (the dark smokes, noted by their double turns). However, we still are forced to kill all enemies. Using JAHA for bait, to lure the dark smoke on the left earlier may save time.

Battle 8

Here is where Slade and Bowie's boosted attack start to really separate them from the pack. I also picked up the Chicken Leg, which won't be used until the very end of the game.

Battle 9

I picked up a Spear for Chester, to try and keep him useful for at least a few more battles. While I was at the store, I also upgraded Bowie's weapon. Also, Peter joins as AI controlled, for this and the next 3 battles, I have to manipulate enemies to come towards him, so he starts his ridiculous level gains earlier than when I can actually play him. An amusing factoid, the King gives you a measly 100 Gold. At this point, I have ~3000 gold. Thanks King.

Battle 10

Pretty standard kill all enemies battle. Slade gets the power ring!

Battle 11

Turning off Scroll A High allows you to actually see what is going on in this battle. The shadow provides a really annoying game mechanic. Also, Slade is so over-leveled, he starts gaining only 1 experience for killing bats.

Battle 12

Finally, a boss sniping battle! Chester needed to die here, and so he serves a good purpose of luring the boss to Slade. Unfortunately, he needed a higher agility at this point. A possible improvement to this battle would be getting Chester a few +2 Agility levels.

Battle 13

Another Boss-snipping Battle. Also, the game gives me Gerhalt, who does an excellent job of dying. I also picked up the Speed Ring, which is valuable till the end of the game.

Battle 14

Clear out all the enemies. Now the team is down to the three core party members. Given that they've had 5-10 levels of max attack, they really start wiping the map clear, quickly. Also, Luke does a great job of luring enemies into my attack zone.

Battle 15

Peters flying makes this battle a quick one. Not much to do, other than kill the boss and keep moving. I also boost Peter, as it allows me to 1-hit the boss, and still get +3 Attack. Also, I hear the "You're a Spy!" speech twice, at it is much faster than suppressing it.

Battle 16

Unfortunately, every time you change the number of characters in your party, you change the starting battle positions of the party. I end up having to use the movement glitch twice, to get Peter close enough to the Kraken.

Battle 17

Nothing spectacular happens in this battle, just a bunch more +2/+3 attack levels.

Battle 18

Bowie takes on Taros. All the +2 levels pay off here. Extra manipulation is required to keep the Black Monk from both Attacking Bowie, and also staying out of the way of Taros. He can literally stand right in the spot Bowie would use to kill Taros. Also, more movement glitch fun. Bowie also gains his first +1 attack level, which spells a bad omen.

Battle 19

This battle never happened. You can walk around the trigger spot, just above the elven village, which I don't enter.

Battle 20

This is by far one of the most difficult battles in the game to manipulate. The Harpies hit for extreme damage, and don't approach until the player is in position. Also, a tight map means the possibility of getting attacked, often.

Battle 21

Once again, I boost Peter to ensure his +3 level. Otherwise, a pretty standard boss-sniping level. Also, once inside Creed's, I promote Peter, and give him the Turbo Pepper. The TAS starts to accelerate at this point.

Battle 22

Almost a Fool's mate! I beat the CPU at Chess in 6 character turns.

Battle 23

Stupid Peter is 1 space off from being able to kill Willard in 2 turns. Otherwise, standard boss sniping.

Battle 24

GAAAH! Two last 'kill all enemies to proceed' battles. However, with Turbo'd Peter and the movement ring on Bowie, I pass through the battle faster than the usual 'kill all' battle.

Battle 25

Another in the dark battle. Last 'kill-all' battle of the game. The game reaches the maximum speed point after this battle.

Battle 26

Peter with the movement ring means 11 MOV from here on out. We start the massive run of quick boss battles. Sarah, who has been faithfully following every battle meets with fate...

Battle 27

A forgettable battle, done in 3 rounds. I also saved for the first time ever in a Shining Force TAS! This will allow me to egress back to the chapel. It takes ~15 seconds, but it takes 40 seconds to walk back, so its a saving of about ~20 seconds.

Battle 28

Flying Peter pays off. The boss is murdered in just over 1 round.

Battle 29

Another fly up and kill the boss in two battle rounds. These battles become quick and easy to do, as there isn't much manipulation required.

Battle 30

The first greater devil appears, and he is a weakling. Zalabard meets his end in 1 hit, and Peter gains his +3 Atk. Does it get any better?

Battle 31

I use the movement ring/speed ring swap in this battle, to remove the chance of Peter getting attacked. Otherwise, standard boss sniping.

Battle 32

An interesting note, if you kill Jaro before his Speech, you still get the discussion bubbles; his lines just come from a disembodied voice at the bottom of the map, and actually takes longer. I would have demonstrated this, but Peter can't get close enough to the boss and still kill Jaro.

Battle 33

Thanks SF2, for replacing one of my dead characters with another character to kill off. I really needed that.

Battle 34

Cameela, the second greater devil, meets her end to an unboosted Peter. That is just insulting. Also, this battle is probably one with the biggest improvement possible.

Battle 35

If you enter the desert area of the map, five mudmen appear. I obviously avoid this in favor of boss sniping.

Battle 36

Those Prism flowers really did the job, Geshp. Congrats on doing nothing. Also, the executioner drops a worthless battle sword.

Battle 37

When I first started this TAS, I expected all the bosses, starting with Red Baron, would require beatdown by both Slade and Peter. I was pleasantly surprised to find this isn't the case. Peter is a mad m... bird?

Battle 38

The burst rocks prove to be an annoyance. I was unable to manipulate all of them into not bursting. Also, Geshp dies pathetically fast.

Battle 39

Silly battle is fast and silly. Why is this battle even here?

Battle 40

Odd Eye. You'd think for all the build up, it would take more than 48 frames to manipulate killing him.

Battle 41

I seriously dreaded the tower battle, before I got to it. It turned out far easier than expected, as should be obvious. Also, after this battle, Slade finally uses the Chicken Leg picked up in Old Granseal.

Battle 42

King Galam takes the longest time of manipulation to kill of any enemy in the game. If I had given Peter the Power Water, back in the ancient shrine, it wouldn't have taken the ~8 seconds of waiting to kill him.

Battle 43

ZEON! Zeon has a total of 500 hit points (Galam only had 240). Also, the boost starts at ~50%, but the second turn it drops to ~36%. This means that Peters first attack is much stronger than his second. Also, when boosted, peters attack reaches 190 for the first round, only 10 away from the maximum attack the game allows.

Battle 44

While not actually in this TAS, I will include this battle... at some point. Seriously, this battle is a pain in the ass. Mainly because all the bosses get 2 turns, and I've got a party of 12 mostly useless characters. Most people didn't want it as part of the TAS, so it will be included in the submission or thread at some point.
mmbossman: Viewer response has been excellent, so I'm accepting this for publication.

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Posted: 2/17/2010 6:57 PM
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Obob
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Ouch! is not the hardest difficulty, although the programmers intended it to be. If the programmers of a game replaced all the enemies by cuddly bunnies and called that the hardest difficulty setting, that doesn't mean the game was played on the hardest difficulty if the "2nd hardest" is actually much more difficult. Except for minor AI changes, normal, hard and ouch difficulties are all the same. On super, the enemies get a huge attack boost. Anybody who has played super and any other difficulty can tell you how much ridiculously harder super is than all the others. I never meant for this to be grounds for preventing publication; the run should definitely be published. However, it should not be published with "plays on hardest difficulty" as one of the criteria. A super run which beats the game in a similar amount of time should be able to obsolete this.
Posted: 2/17/2010 7:08 PM
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I'm not wanting to get into a semantics argument here, but say the programmers had given the enemies a huge attack boost on super, but had also halved their HP? Would that still be the hardest difficulty? When do you make that cut-off line, and how to you avoid having it be subjective? Like I said, the game states that it is the hardest difficulty, whether it is or not in practice. That's my major point.
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Posted: 2/17/2010 7:18 PM
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[...]although the programmers intended it to be.
This is good enough for me.
Posted: 2/17/2010 8:43 PM
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Regardless if this will be re-done, i will give this a yes vote, so many times of frustration i had with this game and now i see it like this lol.
Posted: 2/17/2010 10:34 PM
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Obob wrote:
I never meant for this to be grounds for preventing publication; the run should definitely be published. However, it should not be published with "plays on hardest difficulty" as one of the criteria. A super run which beats the game in a similar amount of time should be able to obsolete this.
I agree with this, 100%, but I'd like to get others opinions on the matter. Also, Obob, you must have missed that I changed the text of the submission. It is now 'highest difficulty setting' as opposed to 'hardest difficulty'
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Posted: 2/17/2010 11:36 PM
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finally got a chance to watch it, BRA f-ing VO beautiful
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Posted: 2/18/2010 12:29 AM
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No, I didn't miss that you changed it DarkKobold. I think it is fine now the way it is; just other people are debating whether it was actually played on the hardest difficulty or not. I'd also like to say that I finished watching the run, and I'd like to say well done! Especially after reaching north parmecia the run is really great. Having seen the run, I can confirm that playing on super would mostly just change the first half of the run. There are definitely several battles that would need different strategies, though, because you would be taking too much damage to survive. The most active shining force forums are at http://www.shiningforcecentral.com/ (as DarkKobold is well aware). All the veterans there play almost exclusively on super or on hacked versions of the game which increase the difficulty. The fact of the matter is that the AI difference between Super and Ouch is virtually negligible, if it even exists at all. It is likely that Ouch was also meant to have the 25% boost to enemy attack values, but that the abscense of this boost wasn't noticed in playtesting. In fact, people only rarely play on super until they are told it is harder; after beating the game once on normal they figure they are ready for the hardest difficulty setting, and automatically assume that ouch is the hardest. It's not hard to see how playtesters might have missed this issue. There's also evidence to suggest that at one time there may have been plans for "normal" or an "easy" difficulty to penalize monster attack scores by 20%; the raw attack values stored on the cartridge for monsters are 80% of their values on normal, hard, and ouch difficulties. For instance, the attack value of a mist demon in the monster stats database on the cartridge is 80; on normal hard and ouch difficulties they have 100 attack, and on super they have 125. All it takes to give the super difficulty damage bonus to ouch difficulty monsters is changing a single bit in the entire ROM.
Posted: 2/18/2010 6:27 AM
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I'm not against two different runs being published, personally, though slightly redundant. This is one of those 'unsolvable' arguments. *Sigh*
Posted: 2/18/2010 12:10 PM
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As long as it doesn't affect this run's publication, I would certainly be interested in seeing a run on the "hardest" difficulty setting, as I have no reason not to trust Obob's expertise on the subject. I think that once the Super run has been submitted, comparing the two movies will prove which is actually harder. Sound like a challenge? also I don't think that this run being played on ouch should set any precedent that would disallow a player to run the game on super-- that would just be silly.
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Posted: 2/18/2010 2:49 PM
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For what it's worth, I think the run is incredible and should be published as it is. However, I'm just a lurker, I suppose. If DarkKobold (or someone else) wants to go back and run it again on this other difficulty, they could, but it seems to me that this run is more than excellent enough for publication.
Posted: 2/18/2010 3:58 PM
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Wow, I'll give this a yes vote. Of course, I fast forwarded through most of it, partly because I'm not so familiar with the game. But with so much effort put into the run and so good results, it'd be a bit cruel not to let it be published imo. Unless the author agrees with it. And in this case, to me, it seems apparent that super should be regarded as the highest difficulty, as according to Obob, the differences in AI are very minor.
Posted: 2/18/2010 6:46 PM
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Damn, this is a TAS I waited for quite a long time :) Absolutely "yes" vote!
Posted: 2/19/2010 2:29 AM
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I like this screenshot with the minimap... definitly a nice way to optimize your space on the screen. All the matches calculation are done with matlab as well? Moving the cursor while manipulate luck would be nice if you make it happen more often, thought..... just a way to disctract.
Posted: 2/20/2010 1:53 PM
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Here is an encode: http://www.archive.org/download/DarkkoboldsGenesisShiningForceIiIn32617.75/shiningforceii-tas-darkkobold.mp4 http://www.archive.org/download/DarkkoboldsGenesisShiningForceIiIn32617.75/shiningforceii-tas-darkkobold.mkv HQ Stream: http://aktan.site90.com/?vid=DarkkoboldsGenesisShiningForceIiIn32617.75/shiningforceii-tas-darkkobold_512kb Edit: Added HQ Stream.
Posted: 2/20/2010 2:33 PM
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amazing. not boring. cool. yes vote.
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Posted: 2/20/2010 11:36 PM
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Noob Irdoh wrote:
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Posted: 2/21/2010 10:11 PM
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Posted: 2/21/2010 11:05 PM
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Nice screenshots.
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Posted: 2/22/2010 6:03 AM
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Can you give the frame numbers? Because the filtering on them is giving me an absolute headache. I mean, we let 256*224 screenshots for NES games, correct? Why not do the exact same thing on Mega Drive games?
Posted: 2/22/2010 6:33 AM
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Flygon wrote:
Can you give the frame numbers? Because the filtering on them is giving me an absolute headache. I mean, we let 256*224 screenshots for NES games, correct? Why not do the exact same thing on Mega Drive games?
Not all genesis games are at that resolution. Most are at 320*224.
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Posted: 2/22/2010 6:34 AM
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Exactly, Shining Force is the exception that runs at 256*224. Have a look at the older screenshots of Shining Force and Shadow of a Beast II's screenshot. They're both 256*224, albeit, with borders.
Posted: 2/22/2010 6:41 AM
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As long as you aren't suggesting that all screenshots on the platform be taken at that size.
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Posted: 2/22/2010 6:43 AM
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Posted: 2/22/2010 6:47 AM
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Thinking about it, though, since all the other screenshots on the genesis page are 320x224 or 320x240, it might look weird on the tables. This is the only con I can think of.
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Posted: 2/22/2010 6:50 AM
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I've actually spoken with adelikat about it somewhat extensively before. It is actually impossible to upload 256*224 screenshots for Mega Drive games using the current system. The Metal Slug publication feel under a very similar issue due to both size slots being filled with much higher resolutions. I just gave it grey borders that match with the default background. I'd do the same for Shining Force but... *shrugs* It seems to work better with black for whatever reasons, consistency with other Mega Drive publications perhaps. Incidentally, I should replace that screenshot at some point... I sort of ripped it from a H.264 lossless dump due to the fact I couldn't be assed redumping a RGB lossless AVI (It was made before I used the Camstudio codec).
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