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Tetris DS. Standard Marathon Mode (200 line clear) cleared in 1 minute and 18.7 seconds, complete with must-watch credits. Enjoy!
This movie was made in DeSMuMe 0.9.4+ r2881. It works also on 0.9.4+ r2872, and probably, the newest SVN version.
Fix ARM Cycle Count must be on. Fast Fetch-Execute should be left off.
  • Aims for fastest completion of Standard Marathon.

About the game

Tetris DS is well-known for its intense Nintendo theme. It is also known for three other things that make it appealing to TAS:
  • The hold piece, which allows a player more freedom.
  • Sonic or Hard drop; where pressing up causes the blocks to fall immediately. This isn't new; it existed in some PC Tetris versions.
  • No delay between pieces, except during line clears. Similar to PC versions. In Tetris terminology, ARE=0.
  • Sliding pieces along a surface. If a piece comes to rest on a surface, or is nearby, rotating it will cause it to slither along the surface, sometimes in unexpected ways. This is particularly noticeable in the late stages of this run. It is possible to create "T-Spins" with the T-Block.

About the run

This run took longer than expected. Every time I thought I had figured out something, the game threw in something new. I redid the last few sections three times because I kept running into I-Block trouble (I need 50 Tetrises). The last 8 lines took a long time to optimize. Due to the unlucky piece sequence, I cannot complete it in 500 pieces, needing 501. To complete it in 500 pieces requires either an even number of T-Blocks in the first 500 pieces, or an I-Block as the 501st piece, neither of which happened.
I initially made the run without using Fix ARM Cycle Count. After completing the run, I figured out that Fix ARM Cycle Count is required to avoid a graphical glitching of the Level 4 transition (when the run reaches 40 lines). So I edited the DSM by a menu redo and gameplay copypaste. In doing this, I saved 38 frames on menu transitions and 1 frame in the gameplay itself.
Fix ARM Cycle Count is also required for Catch Mode to work correctly, although Catch Mode is not relevant to this run.
Gameplay is 4722 frames (1m 18.7s) long, from the first "ghost piece" appearance to when the line count reaches 200. A TAS I found on YouTube goes from frame 807 to 5571 (4765 frames). However, it is not exactly known what the beginning and ending points were.

Thanks

Thanks to Baxter for various discussions about a possible TAS showing off different modes. Since selecting what to show off is subjective, and potentially long, I decided to do a fastest run on the showcase mode because it is short and objective.
Thanks also to an anonymous TASer (probably a Japanese speaker) who made the TAS linked above so I can compare.
Greenalink and LightBlueYoshi deserve mention for other TASes, respectively.

mmbossman: Fast, technically sound (the youtube version that was posted is tough to verify, if someone can find the source for it, I reserve the right to review this decision), people like it, and the goal is easy to understand. Accepting for publication.

mmbossman: I would like to apologize to FractalFusion for prematurely accepting this. I thought I had followed along with the thread well, but I somehow managed to miss this post, which provides a [dead link removed] to a .dsm input file that beats this same mode with same goals in 1:37.53, or just shy of 3 seconds faster than this submitted movie. And, as I stated above, and as is stated in the rules, since this movie does not beat all existing records when aiming for the same goals, I am now setting this to "Rejected". I apologize again to FractalFusion for this oversight.


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mmbossman wrote:
Of the movies recently published on the front page, 11 of 18 are of games that have not been published yet.
Why you counted the clone submissions I'll never know.
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mmbossman wrote:
Xkeeper wrote:
These days we're getting to the point where to get a movie published you would have to go about optimizing frame counts or reverse engineering how something works, which is still a huge hurdle to newbies.
This is complete and utter bullshit, and you know it.
Movie rejected by you 10 days ago wrote:
My decision is to reject this movie for these reasons: There have been a couple suggestions for level time improvements posted in the thread thus far, specifically Bridge 1 and Scrap Brain 2. I am also slightly confused by the goal choice regarding fastest time and ignores bonus effects. If the author were to aim for the best in-game timer, he should not have stopped prior to the end of the level to prevent the signpost from spinning. However, if he's aiming for real-time, this can easily be improved in Bridge 2 due to horrible management of lag, which makes that level look particularly bad. I think this is certainly a game worthy of publication, but this run simply has too many flaws in it to be accepted.
Yeah, horrible management of lag and a couple suggestions for time improvements in two levels. Ban the person who submitted that piece of crap. Now, let's please quickly publish that SMB DS movie which has 1/4 of rerecords and tiny mistakes such as saving after each level instead of skipping it, looking very low-quality overall, and being boring to only 50% of the viewers...
You're just fucking stupid, everyone hates you, sorry to tell you the truth. no one likes you, you're someone pretentious and TASes only to be on speed game, but don't have any hope, you won't get there.
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Okay STOP...ALL OFF YOU. What is the point of having an argument that doesn't even make sense. If there were improvements in this movie, then the author would have made an improvement already. You are all acting like children. Stop the useless bitching and get things resolved. TASvideos already has 2 arguments. We don't need another.
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mz wrote:
Yeah, horrible management of lag and a couple suggestions for time improvements in two levels. Ban the person who submitted that piece of crap.
You're right, I did leave out that part about viewer feedback not being great. Sorry.
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Sonikkustar wrote:
Okay STOP...ALL OFF YOU.
Useless arguments should have stopped 5 days ago if Baxter would have accepted this movie when it already had 45 Yes votes and almost no Meh or No votes, instead of saying he could make a movie like this in a couple of days... But yeah, this isn't the place to discuss this. Maybe I'll open a thread called "This elitist judging system sucks really hard and it needs to die now", but I need to care about the site again to get the motivation needed to do that.
You're just fucking stupid, everyone hates you, sorry to tell you the truth. no one likes you, you're someone pretentious and TASes only to be on speed game, but don't have any hope, you won't get there.
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mz wrote:
Useless arguments should have stopped 5 days ago if Baxter would have accepted this movie when it already had 45 Yes votes and almost no Meh or No votes
Baxter wrote:
Just because the majority of the opinions are positive on this TAS however doesn't mean that I can't post my personal opinion as a member of the TASvideos community.
Also, there certainly weren't 45 yes votes at the time, and I mentioned that I held off posting on purpose:
Baxter wrote:
I've held off posting my opinion in this thread since I didn't want it to cloud other people's opinions, and I certainly didn't want this to be the first post of the submissions thread.
mz wrote:
instead of saying he could make a movie like this in a couple of days...
Baxter wrote:
let me respond to the claim that I did make then. 1) What I meant by "months ago" is that I completed a mode and posted it here over half a year ago. This is a completed mode just like this submission, and would have been an equally valid, and I think equally appreciated submission as this one. 2) It's obvious what I mean by "in a matter of one or maybe two days of work" and I can't actually prove it without doing it I guess... but I somehow think it would be a waste of time, as I would be making a movie with goals that I myself wouldn't consider the best possible set of goals. There are however three things that might persuade some people that there is some truth to this claim: * I have TASed this particular game, and have a good knowledge on how it works. * This submission has about 5000 rerecords, and it is very possible to do 5000 rerecords worth of TASing in a day. *I have submitted: - NES Tetris A mode within a day of Primo's submission. - NES Tetris B mode within a day of Chef Stef's movie being published - GBC Tetris DX within a day after submitting my NES Tetris A mode TAS - GB Tetris within a day after Nineko said that his movie was perfect unless someone else proved otherwise I agree... this doesn't prove that I can make a submission like this in one or two days (and I say again, "like this" doesn't necessarily mean an improvement)... but I would say that there are some indications that might point to the claim not being entirely random.
Also, if you think arguments should have stopped a long time ago, and you say you don't care about the site... why isn't that reflected in your post?
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I guess this is just related to my bad English, but:
Baxter wrote:
Also, if you think arguments should have stopped a long time ago
I said "Useless arguments should have stopped 5 days ago if Baxter would have accepted this movie." (Note the "if" there.)
Baxter wrote:
and you say you don't care about the site... why isn't that reflected in your post?
I meant, I don't care enough to waste efforts trying to make it better anymore. Just in case it got lost in translation, the main point of my post was: "99% of 50 viewers enjoyed this movie. We don't give a fuck if some judges don't like it or think they can make it better. Just accept it and people will not act like children."
You're just fucking stupid, everyone hates you, sorry to tell you the truth. no one likes you, you're someone pretentious and TASes only to be on speed game, but don't have any hope, you won't get there.
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mz wrote:
Baxter wrote:
Also, if you think arguments should have stopped a long time ago
I said "Useless arguments should have stopped 5 days ago if Baxter would have accepted this movie." (Note the "if" there.)
I wasn't arguing, I merely posted my opinion. Can't I post my opinion just like any other member of the site, just because I'm a judge? Note that posting my opinion as a member of the site is something different than judging a movie...
mz wrote:
Baxter wrote:
and you say you don't care about the site... why isn't that reflected in your post?
I meant, I don't care enough to waste efforts trying to make it better anymore.
But you care enough to make it worse, by making statements like:
mz wrote:
"This elitist judging system sucks really hard and it needs to die now"
mz wrote:
We don't give a fuck if some judges don't like it or think they can make it better.
Me being a judge doesn't have anything to do with this, as I've posted my opinion as a member of the site, and didn't judge the movie as a judge. And I've said this time and time again... my complaint with this movie wasn't the technical quality.
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Baxter wrote:
I wasn't arguing, I merely posted my opinion.
I never said you were arguing. My post was in response to this post by Sonikkustar.
Baxter wrote:
Me being a judge doesn't have anything to do with this, as I've posted my opinion as a member of the site
Sure. But while you're stating your opinion, you could respect the rest of the forum members and accept a movie, even if you don't like it.
Baxter wrote:
But you care enough to make it worse, by making statements like: "This elitist judging system sucks really hard and it needs to die now"
Worse to you, only. I can name on the top of my head at least 10 different TASers who would be happier and would make more movies if we didn't have this system.
You're just fucking stupid, everyone hates you, sorry to tell you the truth. no one likes you, you're someone pretentious and TASes only to be on speed game, but don't have any hope, you won't get there.
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mz wrote:
I never said you were arguing. My post was in response to this post by Sonikkustar.
Well why are you trying to continue an argument that you want to end? It makes no sense & it causes more frustration.
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mz wrote:
[ I can name on the top of my head at least 10 different TASers who would be happier and would make more movies if we didn't have this system.
Who?
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mz wrote:
Now, let's please quickly publish that SMB DS movie which has 1/4 of rerecords and tiny mistakes such as saving after each level instead of skipping it, looking very low-quality overall, and being boring to only 50% of the viewers...
I don't think this is a fair argument to support your point. That publication was made by me in a unilateral decision. My decision was based on a desire for a bigger push towards DS TASing, and hopefully bring in a new generation of younger gamers to the TAS scene. It does not reflect the technical quality standards of the site nor do I pretend it does. (Whether I was right or wrong to make that decision shouldn't be relevant here either. The deed has been done so let's please not start an argument on that subject.) Please don't use it to suggest hypocritical standards of mmbossman. (If you want, I can help you find valid examples of his Hypocrisy and bias. But even then I don't know that it really supports your arguments well). Also, I think those who are complaining in this thread fail to see any changes that have happened since the time when their mind got made up. However, I don't think mz or xkeeper will be happy as long as we have quality standards. If I am right, there is not middle ground between us unfortunately :/ (Also, we aren't the Borg. Why is everyone treating Baxter or mmbossman like we all share the same collective opinions?)
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veup wrote:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BRQMP3UT This is the movie file of my new version 1:17.25 (old one's 1:19.42) made with v0.9.4. It also works on 0.9.2-rr or 0.9.4+ with "Fix ARM Cycle Count" off. The time I meant was "frame of first control" to "last piece drop", there was no special reason though. I don't know should I post here because of the emulator difference. But that file may be useful for some marathon runners. Anyway, thanks for watching! =)
So that's the 1:17.25 movie. Well, it's entertaining, and you certainly beat me. I also learned some new things, like how to change the piece sequence. Emulator difference is mostly insignificant. I (and most others) would appreciate it if you submit the movie here. I understand, though, if you don't want to.