It's pretty funny to see how the progression of Mozilla drops and how Chrome is getting better.
Of course, people are starting to rely more on chrome now, as far as I'm concerned, it might even beat both mozilla and internet explorer. However I still use internet explorer. :P
There's no reason for it to beat either of them because Chrome is neither bundled with highly popular operating systems nor is particularly more useful than Mozilla. Its main advantage is rendering speed, something majority of people evidently don't even care about.
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There's no reason for it to beat either of them because Chrome is neither bundled with highly popular operating systems nor is particularly more useful than Mozilla. Its main advantage is rendering speed, something majority of people evidently don't even care about.
I think it's also pretty easy to use, and I don't know why, but I find it more useful than mozilla. Since Chrome came out, Firefox seems less good than Chrome. I love Chrome ♥ :P
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The only thing chrome is missing is plug-ins... I still run firefox at the same time for ietab for the sites that neeeeed ie. Also fun stuff like tineye. Other than that chrome appeals to me aesthetically, runs fast, plus I sold my soul to google in the late '90s in exchange for never having to use yahoo, altavista or metacrawler ever again. I for one am anxious to see chromeos. Also chrome could use an auto-capitalize feature for when i'm feeling lazy.
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Well, it's new. Chrome doesn't even have an extension manager yet.
But surprisingly enough, half the FF extensions I use already exist as Chrome extensions at least in beta form.
Give it some time.
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Yes, Adblock is the most essential add for a good internet surfing experience. Since I have added it, I could not have imagined myself not using it (oh and posting drunk is a prerrty bad thingto do, learn from the experienced user).
I don't even use extension in Firefox, can you tell me what extension you find vital for a great browsing experience ?
Firefox add-ons which I use regularly:
- NoScript: Let's you choose whether to allow javascript or not on a per-site bases, and either temprarily (for the session) or permanently. While browser such as Firefox are getting safer and safer with respect to javascripts, it's still nice to have an extra line of defense against annoyances and outright denial of service attacks.
- Cookie Button: Handy menu to let you enable/disable temporarily/permanently cookies on the current website. (Again, related to privacy. Tracking cookies might not be dangerous per se, but some people just don't want to leave a browsing trail on their computer and willingly distribute it to advertisers.)
- RefControl: Likewise, but for sending referrers.
- Menu editor: Without this, Firefox's context menu would be larger than the height of my screen.
- Tab Mix Plus: Essential Firefox plugin. I don't understand how anybody is willing to use the browser without it.
Less frequently, but still sometimes useful:
- Nuke Anything: Remove any page component via the context menu. (Doesn't remember removed elements, though, so it's only useful for removing large annoyances for the duration of viewing the page.)
- Adblock: A bit like Nuke Anything, but it remembers and is oriented more towards banner ads.
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If you're a web developer, there's also a couple of must have Firefox extensions, although they don't improve the general browsing experience.
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If you're a web developer, there's also a couple of must have Firefox extensions, although they don't improve the general browsing experience.
You mean like firebug? Yes, a friend of mine who works in the web development industry says that it's an indispensable tool.
In fact, I'm assuming that such a tool is so indispensable that I have to wonder if Chrome doesn't have the equivalent already...
The webdev quickbar is also incredibly useful if you're a web developer. An outline mode that lets you visually see all the elements on the page and their bounding boxes, quick access to disabling cache/Java/Javascript/etc., the ability to edit the page-as-rendered (as opposed to the page-as-written on the server side), detailed image information, etc.
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Warp wrote:
Nach wrote:
If you're a web developer, there's also a couple of must have Firefox extensions, although they don't improve the general browsing experience.
You mean like firebug? Yes, a friend of mine who works in the web development industry says that it's an indispensable tool.
Not just firebug.
Web developer toolbar, DOM Inspector, Smush.It, User Agent Switcher, Live HTTP Headers, YSlow.
There's also this new one from Google that I'm thinking about installing, but I forgot what it was called.
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I use HttpFox, is there any fundamental difference?
Also, jSSH is pretty indispensable if you develop web applications and want to run watir-based ui-tests.
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Tombad wrote:
Nach wrote:
Live HTTP Headers
I use HttpFox, is there any fundamental difference?
Yeah. I wasn't aware of HttpFox, and on comparing them, HttpFox seems to do a lot more.
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I think there is an even more important issue to consider: loading speed.
Chrome and Opera load quickly, while Firefox and IE do not...but maybe that's because of all of the extensions and toolbars I use.
By the way, the earlier poster referred to "plugins" as something that Chrome lacks, when in reality it supports NPAPI plugins just like nearly every other browser, even IE to a small extent; plugins are like small programs that are called by the browser, while extensions alter the behavior of the browser itself.
Plugins can be made cross-browser (it's the same NPSWF32.dll or .so or .dylib or whatever for all non-IE browsers on your computer), but at least as of now extensions are not cross-browser.
I should also mention that extensibility is not a property of the rendering engine but instead of the user interface (the "browser chrome"); most of the loading time of Firefox can be blamed on XUL (XML User interface Language), which allows extensions to be written, while XUL-less Gecko browsers like K-Meleon, Camino, and old versions of Epiphany (since switched to WebKit) load quickly.
I have noticed that Chrome is not loading as quickly as it used to; maybe it's the fault of the experimental extensibility support?
EDIT: I almost forgot to comment on Nach's rant against Firefox: In your opinion, does it still suck that bad (and it sure did suck, I switched to Opera during the Firefox 2 era when Opera became both free and ad-free), now that two impressive upgrades (3 and 3.5) have been released, with 3.6 soon to come, and with the latter of the two focused on speed? (I'll admit the built-in Ogg codecs are slow but still...)
