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To do this trick, I need a rock, meat or grenade acquired with the infinite pick-up glitch,
but Abe cannot bring items to Mosaic Lines.
also, I can't fool the Sligs with this trick, they do not stop firing until Abe is dead.
I am old enough to know better, but not enough to do it.
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oh, in exoddus the glitch sometimes transports to places where it shouldn't.
there's also the invisible-abe glitch, but i don't know how useful that can be in any situation.
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Um... I remember being transported to a previous area on the PC version of Exoddus too,
(with the auto turn cancel glitch) but I can't reproduce the glitch on the PSX version :(
Invisible Abe? do you have any .pxm file with this glitch or can you explain how to do it?
I'm about to start Paramonia, but first I want to try out all possible ways to skip it.
I am old enough to know better, but not enough to do it.
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Dooty wrote:
Um... I remember being transported to a previous area on the PC version of Exoddus too,
(with the auto turn cancel glitch) but I can't reproduce the glitch on the PSX version :(
Invisible Abe? do you have any .pxm file with this glitch or can you explain how to do it?
Unfortunately, I don't have a pxm of it. Actually I've never tried it myself :p
He told me that you just hold triangle to get the automatic second jump... or something...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LegRftQdbj0#t=0m52s
It could be useful in a different area where you could use 'quicksave' and load (from Pause in-game menu). Although, I don't know if Abe will rematerialise :p
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thank you antd, but only Exoddus have the quick save option.
I'm doing Paramonia, testing if the invisible Elum is faster.
edit: Use the invisible Elum here is slightly faster,
attract the bees away from him seems faster too.
I am old enough to know better, but not enough to do it.
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Yeah, that plus some things that didn't work on the 99 Mudokons run, here's the new wip:
http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/346461794/Dooty%27s%20Oddysee%20-%20Bad%20Ending.pxm
I can toss the rock as soon as the lift stops, also some Paramites fail to "eat" Abe on Paramonian Temple.
edit: I'm at Rupture Farms 2 trying to deal with some Slogs, new wip as soon as I find out how...
I am old enough to know better, but not enough to do it.
Enjoys speedrunning, playing and TASing Oddworld games!
Has TASed:
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
Currently working on:
Waiting for Windows TAS Tools to work so I can TAS PC version of Exoddus.
Enjoys speedrunning, playing and TASing Oddworld games!
Has TASed:
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
Currently working on:
Waiting for Windows TAS Tools to work so I can TAS PC version of Exoddus.
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If anyone does do exoddus, I think the sprite corruption glitch is useful in some areas. So you should test it out.
I'll upload my old pxm later (if it still exists).
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Samlaptop wrote:
Is it possible to TAS Abe's Exoddus?
Never played Exoddus on emulator until yesterday, but the door that must be opened by two Mudokons simply got stuck :( I was playing on ePSXe 1.8, not on PCSX. On PCSX it may have some emulation problems, but nothing major. I also want to see Exoddus TASed, 100% would be sick to watch! So, let's hope antd still have his pxm file.
edit:
The death delay trick may lead to a huge skip soon, it's easy to setup the glitch in Paramonia, but then a "dead" Abe can't clear one of the long gaps on his way out of Paramonian Nests.
Scrabanian Nests in the other hand does not have such big gaps, but I still don't know where a death delay trick can be done in Scrabania :(
I'm checking some possibilities but I'm pretty sure the edge climb delay, a useless trick so far, is the key to solve that problem, so it may be a matter of time until Paramonia's skip become a reality.
edit:
with the current knowledge about how and why the death glitch works it won't be possible to skip Scrabania nor Paramonia, sadly.
But I'm leaving my closest attempt in my updated any% run, even not being faster than completing Scrabania without the glitch, it's a cool glitch to watch nonetheless.
oh, almost forgot; the run I'm working on is not really an improvement, it's more like an update to include the death glitch, so it will have some room for improvements if someone else wants to give it a shot.
edit;
it is submitted; http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13577
I am old enough to know better, but not enough to do it.
I'm liking your improved any% TAS. How do you do the part in Scrabiana where you use Elum to get rid of the mine and jump behind the screen to pocess the Slig?
Also, I have made a 100% run for SDA which got accepted and does use the death delay glitch. You'll be able improve your 100% TAS as well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rlo8Cotvz_E
I may do a movie that focuses on beating the game without glitch abuse. I can use my PS3 controller and just play it at normal speed.
Enjoys speedrunning, playing and TASing Oddworld games!
Has TASed:
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
Currently working on:
Waiting for Windows TAS Tools to work so I can TAS PC version of Exoddus.
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Thank you, Samlaptop!
The mines can't hurt a "dead" Elum, the mine is blown by Abe. Something like we do on the way back to Rupture Farms; let the mine get close to Abe and then run away!
To possess that Slig, I do a Screen Boundary Trick; Abe must be at two steps away from the boundary, a jump will put you between the current screen and the next one. There, you'll be able to chant without worrying to get shot by the Slig :)
I am old enough to know better, but not enough to do it.
Dooty, what is the best way to encode your new movie? I'll upload it to YouTube.
Enjoys speedrunning, playing and TASing Oddworld games!
Has TASed:
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
Currently working on:
Waiting for Windows TAS Tools to work so I can TAS PC version of Exoddus.
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To encode PCSXrr runs you'll need to follow this tutorial:
http://code.google.com/p/pcsxrr/wiki/AviHelp
But it's kinda difficult to encode Abe's games correctly. Dada was the encoder of my other runs, so he's your best bet for help.
I am old enough to know better, but not enough to do it.
Last week I attempted my first attempt for an any% pure speedrun and I beat the game in 56:01. There were a few deaths here and there but I managed to race through perfectly with Scrabiana and when I went to Paramonia and started to die:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymPV7RMKra8
Over the Christmas holidays I will be improving my any% single segment run and hope my second or third attempt won't have deaths.
Enjoys speedrunning, playing and TASing Oddworld games!
Has TASed:
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
Currently working on:
Waiting for Windows TAS Tools to work so I can TAS PC version of Exoddus.
Joined: 6/2/2009
Posts: 1182
Location: Teresópolis - Rio de Janeiro - Brazil
While I was trying to figure out how to execute the backward jump in Exoddus, I remembered that it was almost possible to skip Zulag 2 using the fall through floor glitch in Oddysee. The backward jump, set with a simple auto turn delay, made it finally possible.
I am old enough to know better, but not enough to do it.
Enjoys speedrunning, playing and TASing Oddworld games!
Has TASed:
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
Currently working on:
Waiting for Windows TAS Tools to work so I can TAS PC version of Exoddus.
Joined: 6/2/2009
Posts: 1182
Location: Teresópolis - Rio de Janeiro - Brazil
Unfortunatelly, I don't know how to encode :( I updated my submission with the skip;
http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13577
But with this new glitch, the backward jump, I'm really close to skip Paramonia and Scrabania altogether.
I am old enough to know better, but not enough to do it.
Hey, you beat my 40:54!
Edit: how is it possible to skip both?
Enjoys speedrunning, playing and TASing Oddworld games!
Has TASed:
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
Currently working on:
Waiting for Windows TAS Tools to work so I can TAS PC version of Exoddus.
Enjoys speedrunning, playing and TASing Oddworld games!
Has TASed:
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
Currently working on:
Waiting for Windows TAS Tools to work so I can TAS PC version of Exoddus.
Enjoys speedrunning, playing and TASing Oddworld games!
Has TASed:
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
Currently working on:
Waiting for Windows TAS Tools to work so I can TAS PC version of Exoddus.
Dooty, how do you do the new glitch? What buttons do you press?
Enjoys speedrunning, playing and TASing Oddworld games!
Has TASed:
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
Currently working on:
Waiting for Windows TAS Tools to work so I can TAS PC version of Exoddus.
