i used everything included in the submission text, and it worked. originally, i had forgot to turn on Perfect Sega CD Synchro. that game me a desynch on Collision Chaos 1. amazing movie. very fast, very well polished.

Well, from what I saw I would vote yes. However, for both the U and J roms, the game desynched on the second level of the second stage... I don't know why and I tried to troubleshoot but failed. I will withhold my vote until A) I figure it out B) A youtube C) The publish

I have the US game in ISO+MP3, and the version 2 bios. The file made for version 2 desyncs at the beginning of cc2, I guess the same way it does for stickyman05.

those of you having desyncs, can you send me your gens.cfg files and walk me through the process you used when trying to play the .gmv?

I used the US v1.10 BIOS, and loaded the BIN+CUE version from the Open ROM dialog, with perfect synchro enabled. Worked just fine here. It's really nice to see another Sonic game TASed, voted yes.

Hey, Upthorn - have you considered including a checksum of the bios with GMV files? It may solve some of these problems.

Best surprise ever! Can someone please do a run that collects all the Time Stones?

Personally, I'd prefer one that gets the good ending the "brute force" way by destroying the cages. Or a run that doesn't care about real time and only aims for the best level run (some time zones may prove faster than others). But I'm going to have to vote no here. The US version's soundtrack sucks. I hate those stupid chanting women in all the tracks especially Tidal Tempest and it's annoying as hell and GOD DAMN IT I FUCKING HATE THEM. Sure, there are two versions of the movie, but the US version will likely be favored in the AVI, and any of the "reproduced" versions likely won't be bothered to include Japanese version for readjusted music like this one. And just replacing the tracks doesn't exactly work - like with Track 2, which is the Metal Sonic sound in the US and the Time Warp in the Japanese, and with Stardust Speedway's boss, which starts playing the Bad Future music on the Japanese Version even if you got the good future. And then there's the version BIOSes to consider, which I didn't even know existed until now and even though I have a BIOS I have no idea what version it is. So that would complicate future publications even more! Then again, on the other hand, Stardust Speedway and Sonic Boom pretty much blow their Japanese counterparts out of the water, and Palmtree Panic is pretty good too. And it has a boss music that doesn't remind me of a Richard Simmons workout video. Maybe even Collision Chaos and Quartz Quadrant (if we ignore the latter's annoying-ass chants) are ones to consider. So that leaves us at Meh? Well, there is the fact that the run was pretty much ripped straight off the ones from TSC, without bothering to check for route changes, improvements, or stuff that can only be done on the normal mode of the game and not time trials and precision stuff limited to TAS only. You got one in there already, but not much more. I'd prefer to hunt for those things first instead of doing a rushjob on the publishing of a Sega CD game (See: That DOS game that wasn't published despite it being the first TAS of a DOS game) So we're back down to No. But it's still pretty awesome in itself. For now, it does seem like it's the best we can do, even though we could undoubtedly do better. Further testing would be nice, but something like this would be good for comparison's sake when we finally do find them, I guess. And we're back to Meh. And it'll likely be a while before another one will be made and/or published, or even considered for route testing, so... ...mes?

Best surprise ever! Can someone please do a run that collects all the Time Stones?

Sure, there are two versions of the movie, but the US version will likely be favored in the AVI, and any of the "reproduced" versions likely won't be bothered to include Japanese version for readjusted music like this one.

Actually I was planning to request that two AVIs be published for this movie, one for US soundtrack, one for Japanese.

So I watched it. Meh. I have no doubt that the action itself was pretty cool, and it's a very fast TAS, but the fact is I don't like Sonic CD. Why? The Zone Clear music annoys me. The running shoes music annoys me. The super peel out sound annoys me (which, unfortunately, was used extensively throughout the run and unnecessarily in the metal sonic race). The new "improved" jump sound annoys me. Lets just leave it at "this game annoys me". So while I appreciate that this run is breaking new ground, I don't feel entertained by it. Because of this I'll have to vote meh. You of all people should understand this :) If the question were "should this be published?" however, I would vote 100% yes.

I loved what I could see, but every single one of the videos desynched at some point: - The Japanese one desynched at the start of SSZ1 - The US v1 desynched at the start of CCZ1 - The US v2 desynched at the start of TTZ1 So... yeah. Waiting to be able to actually see the rest.

I have spoken with Puto and resolved the desync issue that he and a few others were having (it was due to an incomplete MP3 set). There is now information in the submission text about how to resolve this desync. Note that you should be able to place any mp3s there with the proper name and have the run sync, but you absolutely must have a valid mp3 for every audio track. In this case, the CD has audio from track 2 to track 35. If you have 34 mp3s named correctly (xxxxx 02.mp3 through xxxxx 35.mp3, where xxxxx.iso is your sonic CD iso name), or are using a binary image with complete audio data, and a properly formed cue, and are still experiencing desyncs, please let me know.

Great job, you two! An amazing run that was entertaining to watch. Now, to simply break the game... only time will tell how broken it will become. FOR ALL THOSE HAVING TROUBLE After talking to Upthorn, I found out that if only using the .iso you must have 34 tracks of music in the same folder. He explains it better: <Upthorn>stickyman05__: check the directory you have your sonic cd ISO in do you see 34 mp3s labelled xxxxx 02.mp3 through xxxxx 35.mp3 (where xxxxx.iso is your sonic cd ISO name) Upon asking him why the movie does not function without the music: <Upthorn> it's not that it doesn't function without the music <Upthorn> it's that the CD has to have the correct number of tracks <Upthorn> and gens doesn't know how to figure that out except by the number of mp3s <stickyman05__> would I be able to put 34 random beatles songs in the directory, rename them XXX 02.mp3 and call it good, for instance? <Upthorn> yeah

Actually I was planning to request that two AVIs be published for this movie, one for US soundtrack, one for Japanese.

Two audio tracks can live in the same AVI. ;)

Actually I was planning to request that two AVIs be published for this movie, one for US soundtrack, one for Japanese.

Two audio tracks can live in the same AVI. ;)

No, that would require a MKV. But the video differs a bit anywy, because of the Japanese bios and 4-ingame frames of difference in Quartz Quadrant.

Actually I was planning to request that two AVIs be published for this movie, one for US soundtrack, one for Japanese.

Two audio tracks can live in the same AVI. ;)

No, that would require a MKV. But the video differs a bit anywy, because of the Japanese bios and 4-ingame frames of difference in Quartz Quadrant.

mp4 also supports multiple audio tracks iirc.

I've encoded an AVI. Link shortly to follow. Stay tuned! Edit: TAS- American soundtrack Edit2: This AVI's zone clear song cuts off. Please wait while I upload the fixed version. Edit3: Fixed. The link above now works again

cool, i didn't know it was possible to TAS sega CD games. you went so fast that amy almost didn't have time to fall in love with you.

No, that would require a MKV. But the video differs a bit anywy, because of the Japanese bios and 4-ingame frames of difference in Quartz Quadrant.

i've seen avi's with two soundtracks several times. i don't know if it's some kind of "hack" or whatever, so maybe a mkv would be better. i've only seen one mkv on tasvideos though... i think it was that "gods" game.

This movie has been published. The posts before this message apply to the submission, and posts after this message apply to the published movie. ---- [1148] SegaCD Sonic the Hedgehog CD by nitsuja & upthorn in 18:04.75

Waiting for an AVI, but I bet this will rock.

Waited for an AVI, and it rocked. So any chance of an 100% run sometime? (Which I assume is all good futures, all Metal Sonic holograms destroyed, and All time stones obtained?) Seems like a Sonic game, that even without Super Sonic in it, would be a good watch. Especially as the Special Stages in this one are decent.

Awesome, a Sega CD TAS. I look forward to seeing all the top games get done.

Watching avi...two questions... Having never played Sonic CD, which soundtrack is used in this version? edit: it would seem the Japanese, because someone was complaining about chanting in Tidal Tempest's US, and there is none, but I still could be wrong... In the bottom left, there are a pair of equal signs [and, early on, some loading messages when the bgm changes]. Is this intentional/unavoidable? Oh, and why does Sonic's extra-lives-head turn into an F sometimes? ...three questions...[/spanish inquisition]

In the bottom left, there are a pair of equal signs [and, early on, some loading messages when the bgm changes]. Is this intentional/unavoidable

It's an emulator option that can be turned off.

Well I do know that the equal signs are the CD-ROM lights, one indicates that it's on and the other is disc activity. You can turn them off in the gens options if you want. The F stands for future and indicates where you'd go if you stayed sparkly long enough.

Watching avi...two questions... Having never played Sonic CD, which soundtrack is used in this version? edit: it would seem the Japanese, because someone was complaining about chanting in Tidal Tempest's US, and there is none, but I still could be wrong...

The US version is used in this AVI. Though I am requesting that a second AVI be made with the Japanese soundtrack, as well.

In the bottom left, there are a pair of equal signs [and, early on, some loading messages when the bgm changes]. Is this intentional/unavoidable?

They are the emulator version of the SegaCD status lights. The green one indicates that a CD is present, and the red one indicates that the CD is currently in use. Raiscan asked Adelikat whether they should be included in the video or not, and there was no conclusion reached, so they were left on during encoding.

Oh, and why does Sonic's extra-lives-head turn into an F sometimes?

The F stands for future, which is the time zone that all the boss fights take place in. If this run travelled into the past, the icon would be a P in thos sections. As for why this happens, you'd have to ask the game designers about that... Edit: Oh, looks like KungFuJesus beat me to the punch. Incidentally, "Fast Car" was my favorite part of the 06 experience.