2001: A Space Odyssey is off the hook now because Transformers is officially the worst movie I've ever seen.
I think Peter Sobczynski's review closely mirrors many of my own views on the film:
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While I never agreed with you about 2001, I agree very much with you and Mr Sobcyn-whatever, I'm not gonna spell that name right. While he claims to be too old to have been smitten by The Transformers in all their glory, I was right in their prime demographic when they hit the US. I went to see that original animated movie in theaters and it was a profound experience. Obviously I'm a hell of a lot older now and even that original movie has so many flaws, both in narrative and artistic presentation, that I have trouble enjoying it much these days. But even as I tried my best to enjoy this new Transformers movie as some kind of pure spectacle (I knew the story would be awful) I was repulsed by it, as were the two friends I went to see it with.
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Hmm... it's really a piece of crap , but it's still not worse than the Lord of the Rings series...
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You haven't seen many movies, then? Like, maybe 4?
I have never understood, and will probably never understand the concept of "worst movie ever seen" or "piece of crap" as most people seem to define it.
Now, I *do* understand the opinion "I did not like this movie". That makes sense, and it's perfectly logical. People like different things, and what one person likes, another person may dislike. "Not liking" a movie is a perfectly understandable concept.
Another concept I understand is "I expected it to be like this, but it wasn't, and thus I was completely disappointed". People have expectations when they go see a big movie and they always get disappointed because the movie was not exactly like they expected in advance. That's just fine. If people want to ruin their own movie experience with expectations, they can perfectly go ahead and do it.
However, the concept of "worst movie ever" and "piece of crap" just escapes me. I can't see any logical correlation between those concepts and the movies they refer to.
How could Transformers possibly be the "worst movie" you have ever seen? It makes absolutely no sense, unless you have seen something like a dozen movies in total during your entire life. There certainly are tons and tons of movies which are way, way worse than that. You either have succeeded in avoiding all of them (quite unlikely), or else you mean something else with "worst ever" than what that concept usually means.
Well, it's not unusual for people to use words with a different meaning than what people usually understand those words to mean. (For example the FSF uses the word "free" in relation to software with a meaning completely different from what "free" usually means in spoken language, including in relation to software.) I just have difficulties in understanding what is it that people really mean with expressions like "worst ever" in this context.
If you want *truely* bad movies, look here: http://warp.povusers.org/grrr/badmovies.html
If you claim that any of those movies is better than Transformers or the LotR, then I suppose I can't do anything else than deduce that either of us is crazy.
But more importantly, if you agree that even *one* of those movies listed is worse than Transformers or LotR (please be honest, no stupid denial principles thank you), then you'll have to explain what you mean with "worst movie ever". Because I certainly can't understand what it means.
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Thank you very much Warp, I totally agree. Maybe the next time someone thinks about posting about the "worst day ever" not mentioning 9/11 or the holocaust, or the "worst game ever" without mentioning E.T. for the Atari, will reconsider.
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Every day is the worst day ever because life is nothing by a swirling tumult of pain and suffering until you are alloted a respite in the cold and definitive embrace of death. Also, Transformers was a let down, but it was not the worst movie by far.
There you go.
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Well if it makes everyone feel any better, Transformers 2 will be released in 2009 by Spielberg. Michael Bay doesnt seem to be involved. Also, by that time, there have been repports implying that the CGI will significantly be enhanced so expect a much greater CGI. But you have to admit that the the CGI in the first movie looked amazing. Which makes you wonder exactly how good the upgraded CGI will produce. With Spielberg directing it, Im sure he will create a better plot. Also, the amount of money the movie made "should" make way for even greater action scenes :)
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Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
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I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
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erokky wrote:
Do you mean that Spielberg will direct it? Because he was involved with this one too, but he was executive producer.
Yes Spielberg will direct it. Michael Bay had the final call in the first movie but that all seem to be gone for the second movie. As I understand it, Michael Bay is a terrific director when it comes to making action scenes but he hasnt exactly build himself a reputation of creating movies with a strong plot :) And we all know Spielberg is a master when it comes to that + action scenes.
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Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
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I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
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Thank you very much Warp, I totally agree. Maybe the next time someone thinks about posting about the "worst day ever" not mentioning 9/11 or the holocaust, or the "worst game ever" without mentioning E.T. for the Atari, will reconsider.
With that, do you mean that "worst movie I have ever seen" does not actually mean "wost movie I have ever seen", but something else? It really means something like "this is the worst *big-budget* movie I have seen *in some time*"?
I don't really understand that. Why write "this is the worst movie I have ever seen" when you don't really mean that? It's not even a common expression which everybody understands.
Hey Warp, some relevant links.
exaggerationhyperboleoverstatement
If it really isn't the worst movie he has ever seen, these probably apply.
Perhaps what he means is "I thought this movie sucked" and just really wanted to get the point across.
Google knows, but it doesn't seem to list anything worth being "the worst day ever". Unless, you consider "American League Division Series (ALDS) Game 3" to fall in that category.
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Boco wrote:
mmbossman wrote:
Maybe the next time someone thinks about posting about the "worst day ever" not mentioning 9/11
Wh
What.
You're serious aren't you?
I don't consider it one of the worst days ever because of the number of people who died, or that they were American. I believe it to be one of the worst days ever because it showed with stunning clarity what destructive forces hate and religious fervor are, and how very destructive just a few souls can be. Politics aside, it is one of the most recent and most chilling examples of why I believe that the worst plague ever to befall man is man himself. Feel free to disagree, but with that explanation I hope I've explained myself a bit more.