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PikachuMan wrote:
Tails needs some love.
I adore Tails, but I feel way more experienced with Amy. I tried to TAS Tails, but could not beat even HollandTAS whose AIZ1 run was then beaten by Aglar by like 3 seconds or more: Link to video Tails is not very popular character, so not so many people have enough skills with him. Of course, Amy is less popular, since she’s playable only in some hacks, but I’ve been advancing with her since my very beginning in TASing. I think, if someone can make a really good (good to be published here, hehe) run with Tails, they are Aglar, NaturelLorenzo and Sonikkustar. And Marzo, maybe. But you should know that it’s a very long and an extremely hard to TAS game (partly because your speed in this game is limited only by the size of 2-byte signed integer and you never can be sure that you’ve reached the best possible speed), so such a project will take painfully long time and much efforts, I guess :) (upd)
PikachuMan wrote:
Is someone gonna do a run as Tails?
I think you should do it yourself. If you’ve never TASed before, I can help you giving advices.
LTRP wrote:
Here is the first WIP, it is short, but contains some creative tactics
Looks cool, can’t wait to see more progress :)
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PikachuMan wrote:
Tails needs some love. Is someone gonna do a run as Tails?
I beleive marzo already said he'd try the Tails run when he was done with the newgame+/Sonic and Tails runs, I'd love to see one too.
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Everyone who prefers Tails, can watch this run. It’s quite fast despite being not optimized (it’s simply a test run).
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Link to video Here is my run on AIZ 2 w/ Tails. There are some mistakes that can be fixed, and this also has the checkpoint trick.
If you want to see some of my TASes, http://www.youtube.com/ltrp300
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Link to video Another run. Since this is just a level speedrun and not part of the whole game, this speedrun isn't useful for the full game TAS. Because there was a glitch found by Nineko about 5-7 years ago that can entirely skip act 2.
If you want to see some of my TASes, http://www.youtube.com/ltrp300
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Has anyone already try to collect all rings in the game as Sonic and Tails? I try to make something, here is the first act: Link to video
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feeuzz22 wrote:
Has anyone already try to collect all rings in the game as Sonic and Tails? I try to make something, here is the first act:
hey, it looks really, really good. SOnic 3 does nto give you bonus for getting all rings? what a bummer. If I remember correctly, last time someone tried this run, a lot of people felt that the monitor's rins should be collected as well.
My first language is not English, so please excuse myself if I write something wrong. I'll do my best do write as cleary as I can, so cope with me here =) (ノಥ益ಥ)ノ
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OmegaWatcher wrote:
hey, it looks really, really good. SOnic 3 does nto give you bonus for getting all rings? what a bummer.
no, sonic 3 doesn't give bonus at the end.
OmegaWatcher wrote:
If I remember correctly, last time someone tried this run, a lot of people felt that the monitor's rins should be collected as well.
yes, but in some zones, take the monitors can delay us, so, we will take them if there are on our way, but we haven't to take them all (I hope).
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I highly anticipate marzos next update. How's it going marzo? Can't wait for this and the possible Tails run, I've been checking every other day, seems like ages since the last wip
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gamble5688 wrote:
I highly anticipate marzos next update. How's it going marzo? Can't wait for this and the possible Tails run, I've been checking every other day, seems like ages since the last wip
Both Aglar and me want to keep the WIPs private until the runs are finished and submitted. And yes, I did say "Aglar and me" and "runs". Edit: added quote due to page break.
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marzojr wrote:
gamble5688 wrote:
I highly anticipate marzos next update. How's it going marzo? Can't wait for this and the possible Tails run, I've been checking every other day, seems like ages since the last wip
Both Aglar and me want to keep the WIPs private until the runs are finished and submitted. And yes, I did say "Aglar and me" and "runs". Edit: added quote due to page break.
When do you think it will be ready to be submitted?
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It is hard to say; we have just been "forced" to redo a significant portion of the runs due to a new time saving glitch in HCZ1. At this point, the best I can offer is "when it is done".
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Is the game hex friendly?
Nitrogenesis wrote:
Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
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Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
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It usually is; but anything before the MGZ2 boss and CNZ is painful to resynch due to changing luck, and this particular case led to a desynch in the very next level due to different camera motion, so it is giving more trouble than usual.
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I look forward to it!
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This is my first WIP of S3&K: Maximum Rings. I don't get the ring boxes in the run becauase I wouldn't really count them as "rings". There are certain rings that can't be collected; so I only get the ones that are possible. Link to video
If you want to see some of my TASes, http://www.youtube.com/ltrp300
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Brilliant. I was hoping for an alternate goal choice other than speed for a Knuckles run one day. I am really looking forward to seeing more.
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Hello, I have just made my WIP 2 for S3&K Max Rings as Knuckles. Check the video out. Link to video
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I just recently started playing around with TASing this game since there's no updated Sonic alone TASes for this game. I started of course with AI1 and I managed to beat Sprintgods TAS from 2006 with 2 frames. That's the one I compared against since I couldn't find any other Sonic alone any% TAS anywhere so if any of you know about one then you're welcome to tell me. Here's a GMV. The first half is exactly the same but I got a method to get past the waterfall that was just a tiny bit faster and my positioning gave me a higher speed after the loop. I also had 1 extra lag frame so I guess I really saved 3 frames but I don't really know how you guys feel about those... Thoughts? Input? Help? I'll take any I can get :).
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It should be still improveable. Tails beats that level in 0:41.xx, Amy in 0:40.15. Hard to beleive that Sonic looses them both so much time. Sorry, I can’t help much unless you play as Amy. :)
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Well Tails can fly and Amy use her hammer for a higher jump etc and Sonic don't have those powers. I actually feel kind of stupid right now because I found a way to jump up and land on the ground instead of the object which would save a few frames more so time to redo, 1 hour after I thought I was done >_>. Either way, I tried taking the speedshoes, going the top and lower route, bouncing on one of the enemies instead of jumping and some stuff like that but none of it was faster so I don't really see how it could be improved anywhere other than the parts I already changed. But that's also why I'm posting here, to be proven wrong ;). EDIT: I changed the jump a bit and somehow avoided the lag frame so here's the new version that's 5 frames faster.
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TimpZ - you've got PM.
feos wrote:
Only Aglar can improve this now.
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I'm really sick and tired of DMTM's eager to get all of the credit for the glitches (It gets so bizzare that he actually claims that he found the zip in S1 GHZ 2...) I know this isn't relevant to TASing whatsoever, but DMTM keeps badgering me to make me credit him for every glitch that I show off in my runs. Gamble's find of the tails zip in S3&K DEZ 2 for an example. DMTM claims that he showed the zip to Gamble and badgered me to credit him instead. So Gamble, is this true?
If you want to see some of my TASes, http://www.youtube.com/ltrp300
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Same feeling…
Skype wrote:
[16:28:52] DMTM: I posted a comment on this video [16:29:00] DMTM: www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV_NdhoEsHg [16:29:49] WST: You are a bit predictable [16:29:51] WST: sorry
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On one hand, DMTM really is quick to claim credit for glitches. On the other hand, he did find some amazing zips (for example, Launch Base 2) with gives credence to his claim. There are also these facts: 1) mike89 posted a video some 3 months ago and credits gamble5688; 2) wersterlobe posted a video some 6 months ago crediting mike89 for telling him. These two imply that the trick was known for at least 6 months. In wersterlobe's video, there is a comment by gamble5688 in which he says that DMTM told him it could not be done in real time; this implies that both DMTM and gamble5688 knew about the trick and were talking about it at least six months ago. What this means I don't know.
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