what the hell. your paper says the "official acronym" for the gamecube is DOL. while DOL may be written on all gamecube products, I believe there is a press release or interview trascription where guys over at nintendo explicitly say that if the gamecube has to be abbreviated, it should be "GCN". This proves to me that the codes on that image you like posting are not what Nintendo expects people to abbreviate their consoles with. Also stop being a jackass.
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As JXQ pointed out those listed there are official abbreviations. Nintendo has also cited that GCN is an official acronym.
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we don't care if it's the exact appropriate abbreviation, we use whatever is most practical to as many people as possible. communication = use words that people have in common.
you should face reality.
(on a side note : this is a joke post, as the whole topic should be treated by anyone ^^ c'm'on it's just a frickin' game !)
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This thread is funny. Pointless, but funny.
Someone who's hell-bent on using precise speech is using mostly unknown and ambiguous abbrevations. Explaining the intended meaning of DMG seems less work than typing "Game Boy".
And everyone else is just being an idiot about it, deliberately or not.
keep on going, guys!
we don't care if it's the exact appropriate abbreviation, we use whatever is most practical to as many people as possible. communication = use words that people have in common.
you should face reality.
(on a side note : this is a joke post, as the whole topic should be treated by anyone ^^ c'm'on it's just a frickin' game !)
It may be a joke, but this p ost (and Phil's) are quite possibly the best posts ever.
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This thread is funny. Pointless, but funny.
Welcome to Off Topic.
Nach still has to respond to about half of this thread, though I doubt he will. I find it very interesting that, even when an epic majority of the forums tell someone that they are being illogical in their stance, people will still stick to a "tried and true" defense, rather than address all possible problems.
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Zurreco: Being the majority doesn't make you right.
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Zurreco: Being the majority doesn't make you right.
Nope, but it can change the perception on what should be accepted right/correct. Is there anything wrong with that? You can argue yes, but I say, in some cases, there's nothing wrong with that. This being one of them.
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In no cases except a matter of court or voting should a decision be based solely on the amount of people saying one way over another.
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Nach wrote:
Zurreco: Being the majority doesn't make you right.
Correct. Might does not make right.
However, if a majority of people tell a very small minority of people that they are wrong, I would expect that minority to give some effort to introspection. It doesn't seem like you have given any thought to the slight chance that you might actually be wrong here, even though you have yet to put up a counterpoint to some arguments made against you. I would suggest you give a rebuttal or concede that you aren't as confident as one should be to try to influence the majority.
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Zurreco:
Interesting points you bring up. Any reason why the rest of you aren't doing the same and perhaps thinking I am right?
I put all rebuttals to all the relevant posts mentioned before points were repeated. If you prefer to ignore them that is your prerogative.
I have thought over whether I am right or wrong, and I will stick with official documents over anything a non Nintendo representative has to say about it.
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DK64_MASTER wrote:
Nach wrote:
In no cases except a matter of court or voting should a decision be based solely on the amount of people saying one way over another.
Then we should get an offical court with unbaised judges. I nominate JXQ and Fabian.
Your nomination is faulty on the basis of the judges being an even amount and thus no tie breaker can occur. It is also faulty to use anyone who has any preconceived notions on the matter.
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In no cases except a matter of court or voting should a decision be based solely on the amount of people saying one way over another.
Then we should get an offical court with unbaised judges. I nominate JXQ and Fabian.
Your nomination is faulty on the basis of the judges being an even amount and thus no tie breaker can occur. It is also faulty to use anyone who has any preconceived notions on the matter.
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Nach wrote:
Interesting points you bring up. Any reason why the rest of you aren't doing the same and perhaps thinking I am right?
Uhh, you are the minority in this situation, and everyone is telling you that Game Boy is more accurate than DMG. Therefore, you calling it DMG instead would be fallacy, making you wrong, making the majority "right." Since you are the Affirmative and the majority is the Negative, it is not the job of the Affirmative to convince the Negative. All you have to do is defend your Affirmative stance against the points made by the Negative.
That being said, engarde!
I put all rebuttals to all the relevant posts mentioned before points were repeated. If you prefer to ignore them that is your prerogative.
I think you still need to respond to this:
Xkeeper wrote:
However, Nach, DMG could potentially be any dot-matrix game. See also Game Gear, Neo-Geo handheld, etc.
If this is correct, DMG is not Game Boy exclusive, and so to refer to all Game Boy runs as "DMG" is not accurate. If we are going to split up the publications based on something aside from what console they are on (since DMG would refer to many consoles, whereas GBX refers to the Game Boy line), why don't we split it in to "Big Cartridges", "Medium Cartridges", and "Small Cartridges"?
good thing gamecube will be the only one with small discs, and everything else will be big discs. I like it. Also couldn't this be easily solved by writing an email to nintendo's support thing? Like, "humor me, but if game boy color is GBC, gamecube is GCN, and you chose the Wii name so it wouldn't even have to be abbreviated, what should I abbreviate the original Game Boy to?"
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GB1, or GBX if they want to be posers and copy the Playstation being called PSX. However, I know that the PS1/PSX debacle is a minefield of officiality, so I won't go there.
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Zurreco wrote:
Nach wrote:
Interesting points you bring up. Any reason why the rest of you aren't doing the same and perhaps thinking I am right?
Uhh, you are the minority in this situation
And this matters why?
Zurreco wrote:
and everyone is telling you that Game Boy is more accurate than DMG.
Since when did I ever argue that point?
Zurreco wrote:
Therefore, you calling it DMG instead would be fallacy
There is nothing wrong with using any official term I choose to.
Zurreco wrote:
making you wrong, making the majority "right."
I am using an official term. There is nothing wrong about that. The majority not accepting the official term makes them wrong.
Zurreco wrote:
Xkeeper wrote:
However, Nach, DMG could potentially be any dot-matrix game. See also Game Gear, Neo-Geo handheld, etc.
Do I need to mention yet again the picture from page 1?
Here it is again for those that missed it:
If you want to think of it to refer to anything else go right ahead. Although from contexts such as playing a DMG game in VBA or Nintendo's DMG should make the exact application apparent.
Zurreco wrote:
whereas GBX refers to the Game Boy line
I'd like you to prove that statement.
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"GB?" would be equal to GB followed by any character, and thus could not contain "GB" by itself and could contain many letter following it aside from C and A. However as that picture above says, the official Game Boy Advance abbreviation is AGB not GBA. Furthermore GBX is made up and not official, and sounds more like a currency.
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You're not really responding to this one point: DMG, despite Nintendo "officially" using it to refer to GBx games, is not GBx-only. Therefore, when you refer to DMG games, you have to go to the trouble of clarifying that you're referencing GBx games, as opposed to other DMG variant games. Do you see the logic there?
Fun analogy time! I live in a town full of guys named Chris. I go by the nickname Zurreco so that people can tell me apart. Sure, Chris would be the official way to reference me, but it is much easier to say "have you seen Zurreco?" rather than "have you seen Chris? Oh, I mean the one that responds to Zurreco." That being said, there is a village of game systems and cartridges that are all DMG. Some go by the name Game Boy. While it would be "correct" to refer to GBx games as "DMG games" (since they are), it is much easier and accurate to refer to them as "GBx games."
Can you give me a reason to accept Nintendo's arbitrary and misleading title of "DMG" to mean Game Boy?
Nach wrote:
I'd like you to prove that statement.
G - Game
B - Boy
x - an acronym variable, which can have different values for the different iterations of Game Boys.
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I love how Nach posts that image like it's the end-all.
In unrelated news, check out this official screenshot of an official document I officially found and totally didn't edit!
Please don't respond to this post, Nach. Part of teaching us what you know is responding to why we think it is wrong, or could be better. People do this all the time when they acquire new knowledge. It doesn't mean they "choose not to learn." It means they aren't blindly following some document because it's official, despite the fact that it makes no sense and is very obscure and makes communication difficult (that's like the fifth time I've made that point, by the way)
Instead, please spend that time responding to the following points that you have (intentionally?) ignored:
Phil wrote:
So,Nach, rename Zsnes to ZSVHC. Otherwise, you are illogical.
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My question is this: which is better, precision of the acronyms in your message or communication of your message?
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Give up on that already; we all know that he will continue with "DMG" and stuff, and neglect "mebibytes" at the same time.
Fabian wrote:
Don't you feel it hurts your credibility when you completely change your words in between posts like this though? I know I'd feel that way, and was just curious if we were on the same page on that issue.
Edit: I read things wrong and posted extra stuff that was incorrect. Removed. (I have the reading comprehension of a grapefruit, remember)
Sorry about that
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If you want to think of it to refer to anything else go right ahead. Although from contexts such as playing a DMG game in VBA or Nintendo's DMG should make the exact application apparent.
Please don't respond to this post, Nach. Part of teaching us what you know is responding to why we think it is wrong, or could be better. People do this all the time when they acquire new knowledge. It doesn't mean they "choose not to learn." It means they aren't blindly following some document because it's official, despite the fact that it makes no sense and is very obscure and makes communication difficult (that's like the fifth time I've made that point, by the way)
Instead, please spend that time responding to the following points that you have (intentionally?) ignored:
