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Posted: 11/11/2005 3:34 PM
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AngerFist
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xou wrote:
I wish that run could be finished some day. So much efforts were put in it. I still can't believe no one wanna finish that one. Anyway... if you wanna see it finished, do it yourself. And that's too bad I don't have much spare time !
Who are you talking with?
Nitrogenesis wrote:
Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
Cooljay wrote:
Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
Posted: 11/11/2005 7:18 PM
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That was also the first thought that crossed my mind when I read it.
Posted: 11/12/2005 6:07 PM
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just talking to myself i bet :p
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Posted: 11/13/2005 11:07 PM
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Saturn
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OK. I finally decided to delay working on the hack until next year as I got more interest for TAS'ing again. I picked up the Metroid run and finished Ceres-Station. Once again I managed to improve Michaels run by some frames. As mentioned a while ago I saved 6 frames before Ridley and during the escape even 23! more Frames because of a better route and by optimizing the moves even more to make a total of 29 frames now. The in-game time counter shows 00'48"97 left after I reached the elevator (for comparing Michaels time: 00'48"67 - 0,30 sec slower). Now I will definitely record this run further in the next days as I finally finished my exams!
See my perfect 100% movie-walkthroughs of the best RPG games on http://www.freewebs.com/saturnsmovies/index.htm Current TAS project (with new videos): Super Metroid Redesign, any% speedrun
Posted: 11/13/2005 11:18 PM
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Although I mentioned this before, any improvements on MF's run are impressive to me. Although after a little bit through the run, it won't be comparable, since his is getting 100% items and I don't think yours is. Also excited to hear you are back at it! *encouragement*
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Posted: 11/14/2005 3:51 AM
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Highness
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YAY SATURN!! :D That sounds awesome dude! Maby a chiristmas gift for all of us?
Posted: 11/14/2005 6:16 AM
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JXQ: Right, I don't make 100% and our paths will split at the room where I get the first Super Missiles in Brinstar. Until this part I will see how much I can improve which is a good thing. Highness: Sure! I would say at least 1 or 2 WIPS will be done until Christmas (1st WIP will be after the Torizo fight where I get the bombs). Thank you guys!
See my perfect 100% movie-walkthroughs of the best RPG games on http://www.freewebs.com/saturnsmovies/index.htm Current TAS project (with new videos): Super Metroid Redesign, any% speedrun
Posted: 11/14/2005 7:20 AM
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I'm glad you decided to start up on it. It's been so long overdue for an update that if it went on longer it might have forced me to attempt making a very poor excuse for a tas, which probably wouldn't end up getting finished, knowing me. I'd be surprised if it even got truly started. Anyway, it's in good hands now. =)
Posted: 11/14/2005 4:54 PM
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Highness
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*chants, cheers and applauds* 'CMON SATURN! :D Eager to see this one baby!
Posted: 11/15/2005 12:03 AM
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Saturn
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Thx Highness, I will do my best! Haven't much time today, but I optimized the Ceres-station escape by one more frame (reached elevator at 00'48"99) and think its the absolute limit now). Tomorrow I will record the first rooms on Planet Zebes!
See my perfect 100% movie-walkthroughs of the best RPG games on http://www.freewebs.com/saturnsmovies/index.htm Current TAS project (with new videos): Super Metroid Redesign, any% speedrun
Posted: 11/15/2005 9:15 AM
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Highness
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Sounds bloody serious there Saturn! One frame! :D I like it when people tends to fix every little piece super-optimized. :D
Posted: 11/15/2005 4:46 PM
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Yeah, maybe this effort was not worth for one little frame, but this is my personality. As long as I have doubts that it could be done faster I try everything to be 100% sure. But in this case I had another motivation because of the in-game counter that shows every frame you will save in the final time of your escape.
See my perfect 100% movie-walkthroughs of the best RPG games on http://www.freewebs.com/saturnsmovies/index.htm Current TAS project (with new videos): Super Metroid Redesign, any% speedrun
Posted: 11/15/2005 4:58 PM
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Highness
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True. But I mean.. You won't feel the diffrence from crunching 1 frame. Sure.. This perticular frame you can actually see the diffrence since there is an in game counter. But otherwise I think you should not be so super-picky about it. Maby in a version after this if you decide to optimize it that badly. Maby it would add upp some frames in the end. But right now I think it's better to just make a regular faster version without being that picky about it really. :) I mean.. How much faster are you from MF's last WIP? Perhaps noticably, I don't know. Just don't overdo it yet. Rather make two version to really see the diffrences that you can make. For instance.. When I made my first version of Mystic defender I thought that it was GREAT! It was superfast. But the more I watched it, the more I saw places for improvement. Hence I made a new version and submitted that one. Anyways.. It's your call to make. But I think I'm not the only one that wants to see a new version already! :D If possible before new year. :)
Posted: 11/15/2005 5:10 PM
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In Sweden there is an old saying: Många bäckar små.
Posted: 11/15/2005 5:11 PM
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Highness wrote:
But otherwise I think you should not be so super-picky about it. Maby in a version after this if you decide to optimize it that badly. ... For instance.. When I made my first version of Mystic defender I thought that it was GREAT! It was superfast. But the more I watched it, the more I saw places for improvement. Hence I made a new version and submitted that one.
I'm excited to see the movie too, but personally I admire very much Saturn's dedication at this point. Plus, Super Metroid already has a run that is quite optimized (minus the wiggle-arm and a few other tricks). Alas it is Saturn's call. I await the first WIP :)
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Posted: 11/15/2005 5:11 PM
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Highness
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Yeah. I know about that saying. But in many cases there are better to make more than one version, as more improvements are likley to be found. :)
Posted: 11/15/2005 5:37 PM
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Saturn
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Don't worry, you will definitely see at least one WIP in this year because now there aren't many possibilities left to optimize. I honestly don't like to redo a TAS for a game I did before because it would be boring and I would call that a time-waste. Why should I make sub-optimized moves and redo the complete run later when I know that I can make them frame-perfect in the first run by just taking a little effort for it? The Ceres station optimizing was also to learn new move-techniques early for every needed situation so that I can use them in the further recording. Now I know them pretty well so the progress will be faster now. I would say the first WIP will be done in about 2 weeks maybe even faster.
See my perfect 100% movie-walkthroughs of the best RPG games on http://www.freewebs.com/saturnsmovies/index.htm Current TAS project (with new videos): Super Metroid Redesign, any% speedrun
Posted: 11/15/2005 5:39 PM
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Nah, we aint worried Saturn, we only expect you to be finished before 24th December :) So we may have our christmas present.
Nitrogenesis wrote:
Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
Cooljay wrote:
Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
Posted: 11/15/2005 5:41 PM
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Highness
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Sounds great to have a dead-line that one can look forward to. WIP in two weeks then. Settled! :D
Posted: 11/15/2005 8:42 PM
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There an old swedish saying: Den som väntar på något gott väntar aldrig för länge.
Posted: 11/15/2005 8:58 PM
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Highness
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Are you writing in essay on sayings or something right now supermegavkoy? Saturn.. Will you concider making a 100% TAS after this one? Perhaps you will be exhausted after this one. But I was just saying since it's discussed in the general thread right now. :) JQX might start one, and I was thinking in the lines that maby you two could make something together perhaps? If JQX wants to use your Ceres station sequence for example. Just juggling thoughts here. :)
Posted: 11/15/2005 9:34 PM
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Saturn
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I don't plan to do a 100% run so far, but if JXQ wants to start it I would be ready to help also with my ceres station sequence. For a 100% run it will be very important to calculate the best possible route first before recording it and I haven't done any planings on this mode though. Maybe Red Scarlets route is worth a check or better to try contact Michael somewhere and ask for advice as he surely planed out his route before.
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Posted: 11/15/2005 9:34 PM
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Nah, I have too much to do, the teachers hates me and I have to work twice as hard as the other pupils, even though I am twice as good, to get my grades. The swedish school system is screwed up. Super Metroid is one of the best games ever and I am really looking forward to see this TAS by Saturn, but I would rather see that JQX made a Super Mario Kart-TAS than a 100% Super Metroid-TAS due to the lack of SMK-TASs. There is an old swedish saying: Bra sås reder sig själv.
Posted: 11/15/2005 10:32 PM
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Posted: 11/16/2005 3:42 AM
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I'd still like to attempt a 100%, but I'm going to try Sonic 1 first. I think a game with a more complicated physics engine will help me handle Super Metroid better - all I've had to do is make Mario fly so far :-P And thanks for the Ceres Station offer, but what I'll probably end up doing when the time comes is watch yours a bunch, but then do it myself to try and match (perhaps even beat) that time. I learn games the best this way. I downloaded Red Scarlet's 100% run, I plan on watching that soon. Just cuz I'm TASing Sonic doesn't mean I can't start route planning here! Oh and guys, my name ends with Q. :)
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