yeah, though it's not like Hawk is currently any better off than her.
sidenote(s):
while Xan Bie is flying around as several flames, he normally just takes 1 damage from attacks or ignores them altogether; for some reasons techs still hit as normal - that's the only reason i used techs at all; the first to keep the tech bar empty (else I'd get 7 tech points and can only do the really crappy lv2 tech) the second to not do 1 dmg with Kevin.
how stupidly weak are lv2/3 techs anyway?
the numbers i calculated come out to:
normal attacks is simply: atk - def
normal attacks with right element (1.5 * atk) - def
Lv1 techs normal: (1.67 * atk) - def
Lv1 techs with right element: (2.31 * atk) - def
Lv2: (2 * atk) - def
Lv3: (2.5 * atk) - def
lv1 tech sabered is almost as strong as lv3 per hit; yeah, no comment
and appearantly I can confuse/glitch two lvl-ups at the same time
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previously I thought it's one or none....
not that, that would even help much; by the time Kevin needs str again for his atk value he'd have (almost) max atk anyway and Hawk needs a certain amount of dex for his def-down jutsu
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did i upload a sd3 boss fight or a dbz episode!?
both have lots of punching, some kicks, A LOT of standing around doing nothing and often one-sided battles... we might never know...
(un)important information:
dangaard uses a different ai for each phase and has no 50%/25% hp moves like most other bosses; instead he has his speed up spell he starts while kevin still transforms - couldn't get past it, would need more setup time...
for everything else it is mostly just
fly one full circle -> cast (at least one) spell or throw feather or cry -> repeat
am I still without one (real) death?
technically riesz was once killed against golems v1, but she still received exp for both golems so she wasn't dead yet, just dying; if she was really dead, she'd only get exp for the 2nd golem - winning a battle auto-revives BEFORE giving exp of the last enemy
nope, haven't seen any light lately nor any papa potos, though a papa poto claw was in a chest anyway
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finally Hawk does damage again! unbuffed 91-92 with tech, ok not even close to what Kevin does, but still way better than Riesz and enough to steal the boss-kill, lol
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might have been slightly overkill as there was only one enemy with about 400 hp; three times dead is still dead
i could have gotten another lvl up right at the second last set of enemies, but Kevin has to de-transform right there - night time was over; what a good thing our next goal is the moon forest which auto-sets time back to night.
i couldn't have manipulated str from the single harpy anyway, so i let it be. i'd rather have as much str as possible on Hawk for the next bosses. even alongside glitched+sabered Kevin, Hawk does actually contribute quite a bit despite having an outdated weapon; sure it's only 1-3 hits less from Kevin but thats better than nothing.
can't wait to get him the pedan weapon - about 70 atk more on a normal hit, +115 damage per tech-hit
You said that using techs wasn't worthwhile...I guess taking the time to tell Hawk to not use techs costs more than what would be saved from it?
techs from Kevin aren't worth it mostly right now; by the time the game has recognized the hits he's more often than not already at 7/7 tech points, which is BAD - lv2 techs simply suck, even if glitched to be used twice; as Kevin lv1 techs currently do about double damage and take almost double time compared to normal attacks, to small a difference to bother so far; the victims need about 50-100 def more to make techs strictly better
*I* control Hawk (most of the time at least), so I dictate whether he does a tech or not, no need to open the menu and disable lv2 tech-usage; and in his case techs are very much worth it as they do about 6 times the damage of a normal attack
Riesz can't even use Lv2 techs, so no problem there
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Ay, I wondered how Lightgazer would go. Still keeping up with this run - you're making really great progress :D
I am honestly more afraid of Dolan and Fiegmund; Dolan is very aggressive and several of his attacks are unannounced (no text box at top), I haven't had such skills yet, so no idea what my chances are against those
Fiegmund leaves the screen at 50% health; if he has the same flaw as Gorva, no problem, else....
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You shouldn't have any trouble beating Fiegmund before he switches sides, as it's perfectly doable on console (although with only one/maybe two buffed characters the damage might not rack up as quickly).
You shouldn't have any trouble beating Fiegmund before he switches sides, as it's perfectly doable on console (although with only one/maybe two buffed characters the damage might not rack up as quickly).
well, Kevin is buffed up more than a full team with his glitch, so that should be less of an issue, though ice will be visited second-last so that can take some time to find out
route: earth -> wood -> ice -> pedan
route: earth -> ice -> wood -> pedan
now THAT is a god BEASTLink to video
as I said, he's very aggressive...ly staring at my team
it seems like the atk-up-buff simply adds another 1/3 of his atk as damage whether it was a tech or not, which makes Kevin's techs even less useful right now
normal attacks: atk - def
normal attacks, with atk up: (1.33 * atk) - def
<- as expected
Lv1 techs normal: (1.67 * atk) - def
Lv1 techs normal, with atk up: ((1.67 + 0,33) * atk) - def
<- i expected (1.67 * 1.33) = 2.22
still need 2 str-ups for Hawk+Kevin and exactly 3 Lv ups, any more than that is a sure-fire loss of the glitch and less even more; if I'm not mistaken Zable gives 9380 exp, Lv 26-> 27 is only 9980 exp, being 25 there is right out as 25 -> 26 needs 8982 exp, which would mean auto-lost glitch
need to count how much exp i have exactly left to get
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Kevin has 47396 after Dolan
minimum gain
Land Umber 5180
ice trap room 502/612/668 or 557/446/502
Fiegmund 5980
Mispolm 6400
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66738 or 66461
Lv 26 starts at 66298 exp
so I have to go for total minimum from now or accept Lv 27
edit²: lv 26 is right out, I need to kill something after the 7th GB to discarge the overstored lvl-ups, and there is nothing in the exp-range of <<<700 exp available in the cave of darkness
Lv 27 starts at 76278 exp, so I have 9540 exp or 9817 exp to get additionally (depending on which trap room I choose)
some useless facts:
-slime enemies have even more def than the earth gb (192 vs 180)
-land umbers atk iswas equal to Riesz maxHP
-I'm only 13 lvls lower than the boss
-Hawk hits for 1 dmg , again... only 1 more str possible, the outdated weapon hurts him a lot
-he is (afaik) the only gb with two elemental weaknesses
-he's dead
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If my book-keeping is right i still need 5754 exp from non-forced fights until Zable. From here on stuff takes too long to kill even with glitched Kevin (3 hits and more), so I'll not have many chances to gain a few moments of running after clearing a room, realistically even none at all.
reached even pedan before 3h, in-game ~2:45h
even more health than Fiegmund (18777hp)
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33 minutes since I left the mana land, that includes:
-2:15 minutes for glitching Kevin
-delivering the plot sword + lengthy cut scene of mana stones breaking
-7 god beasts and their dungeons
-flying to Pedan
I'm not sure how long the rest of the game will take... there are another 7 bosses waiting:
zable
jagan
full metal hugger
genova
tzenker
bigieu
archdemon
Whoa, Hawk's actually dealing damage! Did you stop to buy him a new weapon?
no, he still has the old one from the elf village; Mispolm has just relatively low defense (150) to compensate for his very huge health (18777), Hawk had 155 atk; i wouldn't call 6 damage, at least not vs almost 19k life
the Pedan weapon will put Hawk at 216 atk, or 230 atk once i knock the next enemy out (still haven't taken the last str)
speaking of Pedan, i'm not sure how to handle it:
to make the city appear i have to enter the inn and start the stay dialog, i do not have to sleep there, only speak to the counter; it's still night time, so i can't use the inn to refresh the night time, i would automatically get day time after sleeping in the Pedan inn
i *could* wait with landing flammie next to pedan for another ~30 seconds to end night time just as i walk into the inn; while flying time passes faster, doing my other stuff in town (speaking to the npc and buying the last weapons for Hawk+Kevin) doesn't suffice to end the remaining night
alternatively i could just go ahead and use the dream herb as soon as i reach the cave of darkness, but then i would run into day time during the dungeon
i didn't expect to reach pedan so fast (regarding day/night time) so i only planned 1 herb
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i'll just throw the herb and see how far i can get this way; the night'll probably last longer than Kevin's glitch, so it wouldn't matter much
more specifically i'll use the herb after zable, i've still enough night time left to get the next lvl up; the only loss for that boss would be the atk up from getting hit
edit2:
no idea whats wrong with this cave, but so far all attempts to skip weapon draw result in "frozen" characters for 2 seconds; however it's noteable that the normal weapon drawing has the npc wait with drawing way longer than normally
edit3:
great... Zable just CAN'T be attacked/target until hell cross is finished...
so much for my contigency of using fire jutsu to kill the magic power...
oh and say bye-bye to Hawk, he has 20 HP to few to survive hell cross...
Zable Fahreveryone dies, I win, wait what?!Link to videoyes, it costs me ~8 seconds; yet i find it more amusing than the totally predictable "Kevin punches boss to death, no one gets hurt",
opinions?
Was the time cost due to letting Zable cast Dark Force or what?
yes, the entire animations is just that long, it starts ~655260, ends ~655720, so about 460 frames or almost 8 seconds
edit:
corrected:
in case i lose my notes:
exp plan for the rest of the game (only Kevin matters):
after Zable
exp 87054/87324 for lv28
punch one enemy to reach lv28 (ninja for 753?)
kill Jagan+allies for 10304 exp, remain lv28
exp 98111/99507 for lv 29
forced encounters worth ~34570 exp
and optional encounters of ~8000 exp (including the pre-Jagan victim) to reach lv31 pre-FMH
exp 129624/143611 for lv 32
kill FMH for 5298 exp, remain lv31
exp 134922/143611 for lv 32
forced encounters (6 enemies to reach the switches, can't use them during battle) and optional(?) enemies for ~10k exp total, reach lv32
exp 144922/161086 for lv 33
Genova + Spawns for 9380 exp + 2x 624 exp
exp 155550/161086 for lv 33
9 forced encounters for ~8739 exp
3 optional enemies for ~3k
exp 169376/180080 for lv 34
tzenker for 9950 exp
exp 179239/180080 for lv 34
1 of 6 optional enemies to reach lv34 (1.2k exp average)
exp >180080
Bigieu for 12440
3 forced enemies in MHL
exp <200675/200675
and sort of a lame visual pun:
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not much to say here; that's maybe one of the rare cases where I'm happy to have Riesz with me... why? well, normally my biggest problem with bosses are the final few hitpoints where they make very big pressure to finally get a spell off; here, that's completely removed by Riesz' lvl-up
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in case someone wonders:
i already managed to equip Kevin with his new weapon w/out resetting his atk, so much for that problem (will need that a few times soon, when he lvls-up during a forced fight)
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right before FMH
at least bigieu now needs some new furnitureLink to video
guess what, the fight before the boss was way more difficult to get right...
I have less than 12k exp left to get from normal enemies; up to Tzenker I am forced to kill 9 enemies, then there are 6 optional enemies before tzenker and another 6 after tzenker; each one gives more than 1k exp so 11-12 kills outside of bosses left before Bigieu, the only problem is night time of which not much is left.
if this works out... I've cc'd Kevin for nothing, so another 40 seconds wasted
turns out I got somewhere exp twice, so I'm already way over the limit - whoops
Tzenker downLink to video
only 2 bosses and 3 normal enemies left - and the submission note write up, and a lua script for comments/subtitles
apparently 40k health still doesn't mean much against Kevin o.OLink to videolet's see how much trouble archie makes
1. knock archdemon's health down a great deal, heavy luck manipulation to make him wait longer with his spell/not do anything; archie's second form can 1hit kill Kevin with his sword from the ground (with atk up 700-something), so I have to do enough damage before step 2
he will "die"/transform into his second form once he has lost 50% of his current maximum health* AND gotten off one spell
2. end input/make AI do rest
change player 1 from Hawk to Riesz
switch player 2 (Kevin) off
press attack on player 1 (usually the AI got stuck otherwise)
AI players (Hawk+Kevin) handle rest
in my case he had less than 8000 hp left before step 2
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his normal maximum health is 53499; after the moon coin it goes down by 20%.
the game would normally check whether i'm past 26750 health to determine transforming or not; however with the coin it really checks against 21399
will submit this either later today or tomorrow
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might have been slightly overkill as there was only one enemy with about 400 hp; three times dead is still dead
i could have gotten another lvl up right at the second last set of enemies, but Kevin has to de-transform right there - night time was over; what a good thing our next goal is the moon forest which auto-sets time back to night.
i couldn't have manipulated str from the single harpy anyway, so i let it be. i'd rather have as much str as possible on Hawk for the next bosses. even alongside glitched+sabered Kevin, Hawk does actually contribute quite a bit despite having an outdated weapon; sure it's only 1-3 hits less from Kevin but thats better than nothing.
can't wait to get him the pedan weapon - about 70 atk more on a normal hit, +115 damage per tech-hit
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(i think this pic describes this run almost too well)
despite 50% more health than the previous boss, this gb isn't very durable at all; he has 14588 health, land umber had only 9839.
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i think i can beat mispolm before the 3h mark,... then zable fahr...
