Stage 1: (0:29) Falling down into the pit at the beginning seems to me to be slower than jumping, you should test this. Also, I'm not very familiar with N64 TASing, do moving 'right' and moving 'down and right' give you the same velocity to the right or not?
Stage 2: (0:58) It appears you are running into that wall longer than necessary, is it possible to bomb it from the previous jump or perhaps jump shorter on the first jump making the second one occur earlier. Is jumping as fast as running on flat ground, what if you're going uphill, what if you're going downhill?
Stage 3: (1:38) I think you should not go out of your way to bomb this before getting there.
Stage 4: (2:12) I think jumping on that platform on the right may be faster. (2:20) Jumping from the upper platform directly onto the conveyor may be faster. (2:25) Why do you jump for the back of the trampoline and not the part closest to you?, and opening the box appears unoptomized, (You used a bomb to help you change direction?, Is this necessary?) Perhaps getting a firepower upgrade would be beneficial for opening this box?
Stage 5: Running downhill may be faster than jumping.
Stage 6: If you plan on submitting this run you will need to put some effort into entertainment.
Stage 7: Is there any possible use for damage boosting in this game? Perhaps hitting yourself can get you past the bombs at the end better?
Large issues: What is the order of speed on walking, walking uphill, walking downhill, jumping, jumping uphill, jumping downhill, and falling.
Level 4 or 5 or whatever: At the bottom of the conveyor belt, there's a little boardwalk that you can jump on and then jump directly to the otherside, of the conveyor belt. Plus afterwards, it'll probably be faster if you jumped on the platform and then here on out. Level 3: Don't fall down all the way to the floor. This is gonna be hard for me to explain but I'll tell ya. You know those two lonely platforms that you can jump on? When your on the second one, jump to the corner of the edge of the "cave" that your going to exit it in. That was hard for me to explain, I hope you understand it.
By the way with 0:36 at stage 1, doing another jump is faster than holding on to the ledge.
Jumping is as fast as running on flat ground and they are equally fast uphill (even though jumping looks faster) i didnt test for downhill though, so i will.
2:25 - the jump onto the trampoline was sloppy, ill redo that. However i did discover that randomly throwing a bomb appeared to make bomberman land several frames faster, which is why i threw that bomb. (I'll see if i can get it to hit something to make it look less sloppy but i doubt that it would be practical)
Damage boosting is going to be a big feature of the TAS but as i don't want to really go out of my way to pick up health
Do you get health refills after areas or worlds?
Can you bomb midair without losing time? If so you should bomb enemies to improve entertainment value. (The chicken in Stage 3 jumps out at me among other things.)
Also, Bomberman needs to dance to Nitros's theme (such a good track)
Dancing?! You kiddin? I'd rather he moves to Nitros's music than dancing.
An accounting of stuff in my WIP I do different that you may have missed. (I'd recommend you watch it at some point.) Battle Room: Shortly after the booster if you jump onto the trampoline to the far ledge, you will save a little bit of time by not having to move upwards. Hyper Room: I bombed the wall panel like I suspected quite cleanly, it's far better than your previous video. I stay on the conveyor as long as possible and jump to like the third stair because my forward velocity is maintained longer. Secret Room: Only what I previously mentioned. Sky Room: To avoid the first conveyor completely, jump down and right and land on the small ledge. (jumping from the yellow side rail.) To avoid the second conveyor jump to the platform over the hole and jump and grab the yellow side railing and climb up. -I then short jump from the top platform onto the beginning of the conveyor. I run on the conveyor until I get to the knives, run along parallel to the knives and jump from the highest point to the side of the tower and climb up. (I think this is faster, it might not be.) -I could not manage to bomb the crate from the trampoline with a level 2 firepower. It could be done with a level 3 firepower, but this is too far out of the way to be worth it (the only possibility is in hyper room.) -I tried jumping and damaging myself from the platform directly left of the exit onto the exit platform and I got extremely close. I spent probably half an hour trying to make a perfect jump and I could not make it with what appeared to be flawless jumps. I'd recommend you look at my WIP for a better idea of what I did when I can upload it. Blue Cave: Straightforward obviously. Hole Lake: I would get up to 4 bombs and 3 firepower here if it doesn't lose time. You may be able to get the 4th firepower in the pillar without losing time, but I couldn't manage to (didn't try very long.). Red Cave: I managed to make the jump from the platform to the exit by throwing a bomb at the wall and damage boosting to the platform.
Once I can upload my Test WIP I'd recommend you redo Area 1 one final time and I think we can call it done. Hopefully with our combined efforts there won't be a need to go back and redo for routing errors in future Areas. Minor stuff can be overlooked later, but this is still so early in the run. I'm up to World 2 Area 2 on my test run. Things to note: - We do NOT get health back between worlds. - Firepower is not going to make the Nitros or Endol fight any faster. - Dragon Road was fairly easy to route. I just stay at the top of the level and keep moving to the right. - I found a couple interesting paths in Great Rock/Fog Route. - If going perfectly straight in water levels is fastest you may as well just go straight. Water levels are extremely boring as is, so we may as well just get it over with quickly. - In world 2 area 1 Erars Lake we get two free health which brings us back to maximum at that point. (You don't need the health in Bubble Hole.) - I tested the Waterway and Water Slider paths. Waterway seems to be faster by a solid 2-3 seconds when you consider the extra manta ray fight in Erars Lake.
Heh, I just found out that on the sky room on the second conveyor, it will be faster if you jump onto that yellow fence then onto the tower where you get your card key. If your starting over, that's a good thing for you. Well, you can't rush these movies.
-in world 2 area 1 level 1(groog hills?) its a load faster to use up two health points flying through the water to the exit so health might be an issue then
-and are you certain that waterway is faster? water slider was used in the SDA run and ive always seen it as the faster course by a long way, on the other hand, if you're sure, then waterway it is :P
Heh, I just found out that on the sky room on the second conveyor, it will be faster if you jump onto that yellow fence then onto the tower where you get your card key.
I tested jumping from the left half of the level, and taking two damage to get to the right half vs. going through the tree warp, around the left side and taking 1 water damage boost. Doing semi-optimized tests, it appears that going through the warp is extremely close or possibly actually faster. If I had to guess I'd say the warp is faster by a quarter of a second. I'm also at 2 health at the beginning of this level so this is the better option. I took 1 damage in Fog Route to grab the remote between the two bombs without stopping. I'm not sure if this is necessary or not.
If you go to Water Slider you have to fight an extra manta ray. If you can beat him without him pushing you back at all you will gain a second over my best trial, which still leaves the waterway path about 1-2 seconds faster. If you can manage to bomb jump up to the last platform in Water Slider this would make it the better path, but I don't think it can be done.
-ill need to retest the hole lake level and work out exactly how many frames it will cost to get the firepower/health, they may be worth grabbing (bombs are obviously worth getting)
-the bomb jump in red cave looks awesome :P
-Nitros got pwned. Do you think the score of 8220 that you got on the first nitros battle should be repeatable on W2 and W4 nitros's? Because in the second one you only ended up with 8210. Were both optimal or just the first?
-Endol fight looked pretty optimal to me, was funny when you stopped him from firing the lightning ball.
-the routes for Dark Prison and the other key crystal collecting level in area 3 blew me away, high entertainment value there.
About my latest WIP, i've only redone the first two levels so far but saved 34 more frames on each. (thats 134 frames total compared to my first WIP at the end of level 2, over 2 seconds) I'll pick up the pace with making it soon!
