Posted: 6/12/2005 6:49 PM
Post subject: [REQ] Clock frequenzy settings
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Highness
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As I'm making a Wonder boy 3 in monster world speed run ATM I would very much love to have this setting in Gens as this game is filled from beginning to end with LAGS. I do understand that it can be concidered as cheating. But if you ask me it would raise the enjoyment level of watching, atleast in this game, about a 100%. I know this has already been discussed in another thread. But I really felt that I had to bump this up into another thread as a request this time. We are making movies for enjoyment. And I do not concider lag as enjoyment. Please programmers! I'm begging deep down in the mud on my bare knees!! *cries and hopes someone hears him* We don't look so much for perfect emulation anymore. We look for perfect results. And by that I hope perfect watching results are included as well?
Posted: 6/12/2005 8:19 PM
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Well, I think perfect emulation is a better choice. But then, Xou did say that it shouldn't lag that much, so maybe it does need to be corrected.
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Posted: 6/12/2005 8:23 PM
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Is this lag present in the real console version ?
Posted: 6/12/2005 8:51 PM
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It does lag. Wonderboy should be able to move much faster.
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Posted: 6/13/2005 6:08 AM
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If it lags in the console version, it's part of the game and we shouldn't be messing with it. If it doesn't lag in the console version (as people are claiming), something is wrong in the emulation and should be corrected. Then we will start needing different emulation cores (like Snes9x has WIP and Final timing) for backwards compatibility. Which sounds like a lot of work. Or everyone could have two versions of the same emulator, but that's probably somewhat bothersome too.
Posted: 6/13/2005 3:46 PM
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The consol version lags a bit as well. BUT NOT THIS MUCH! :D Never the less it's not about emulation accuracy like you mention. I still feel that it's the quality/enjoyment level that suffers from this. As I mentioned before. I rather watch a run without lag.
Posted: 6/14/2005 4:06 PM
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Can you try with other Genesis emulators to see if this lag as much ?
Posted: 6/14/2005 5:29 PM
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Sure.
Posted: 6/14/2005 6:17 PM
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Ok.. I have tried a couple of diffrent emulators now. Genecyst, Kega, Xega, Ages and RetroDrive. All works fine in single player. I can do what ever I want without getting it to lag. I tried to provoke lag as much as possible. How ever, when I run the game with two players, it lags like hell! Could this be a problem due bad input reading from the controllers? I mapped two controllers to the same keys on my keyboard in the other emulators. In Gens I used my default config with diffrent mappings. Still lags in Gens, as well as the other emulators. I still claim that we should bring the clock frequenzy up a notch. About 4Mhz would be sufficent right? Then everything should run smooth with no lags. :D