If a movie has entertainment significance which is deemed negatively, such as sickening camera angles, seizure inducing activity, and other rectifiable presentation decisions within it, the movie is not eligible for any tier.
Why are Sonic TASes even allowed on this site? Or the 3D Zelda games?
Ocarina of Time trying its best to cause motion sickness: https://youtu.be/au3Q5AhTBQ0?t=220
Or Mario 64? https://youtu.be/W-MrhVPEqRo?t=10
Heck, let's go 2D again.
Mega Man 2: https://youtu.be/y1fehqCXr9U?t=798
The less said about the infamously bad Genesis Sonic TASes the better. So bad they need a "camhack" to even be followed.
Plenty of glitched videos here---and I do mean plenty, utilize constant flashing screens too.
Judge the movie for what it's offering, and this, it isn't much. But this "rule" isn't followed to any degree to begin with.
Honestly I'm surprised any judge would say this is a "reason" when this site has very lax seizure warnings. I think I've only ever seen it for one or two videos when so many (Mega Man/Sonic/Zelda/etc.) TASes are definitely seizure potential and have zero warnings at all. I've seen more "warning bad sounds" than anything for seizures.
Point to a valid TAS next time when you're trying to make a point.
There's also a difference between a split second and several minutes worth of it.
Ocarina of Time which is somehow an example in what you wrote is barely an example cause of how mute it is.
Same for Mega Man, since it's not even giving you a seizure.
Come back with valid criticism if you're using these 3 games again.
Actually 4, Sonic falls under the "split second" as well.
If you want an example, but falls under emulation issues which means that it's invalid you could've pointed to DS Monkey Ball.
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Does every other rejection reason I posted make perfect sense to you? It's a joke submission and a joke judgment note. Maybe you don't share our sense of humor, both the author and I have had awesome time. Yes, he loved my rejection message.
Acumenium wrote:
I just noticed this as a rejection reason:
If a movie has entertainment significance which is deemed negatively, such as sickening camera angles, seizure inducing activity, and other rectifiable presentation decisions within it, the movie is not eligible for any tier.
Why are Sonic TASes even allowed on this site? Or the 3D Zelda games?
Ocarina of Time trying its best to cause motion sickness: https://youtu.be/au3Q5AhTBQ0?t=220
When I look at the submission thread for it, I see 58 people that liked the run, 3 that didn't feel anything definitive, and zero people who disliked it. That clearly shows that the audience doesn't feel that that movie has negative entertainment value. So it doesn't make sense to apply that rule.
Acumenium wrote:
Why should we speak for random youtube videos that don't credit the authors and don't provide any reference to the source they were taken from? We don't even have such a short SM64 movie published on our site!
Acumenium wrote:
35 people liked it, no one disliked or was uncertain. No sign of negative entertainment value either. Yes it's meant to be subjective, it's exactly the question we ask with every new submission: "Did you find this movie entertaining?"
Acumenium wrote:
The less said about the infamously bad Genesis Sonic TASes the better. So bad they need a "camhack" to even be followed.
Infamously bad according to whom? "My proof is so obviously unbeatable that I won't even tell you what it is."
Acumenium wrote:
Plenty of glitched videos here---and I do mean plenty, utilize constant flashing screens too.
Since 2004, our audience has been exposed to more and more glitches, which were getting heavier and heavier, and since they were saving time, we were loving the glitches, aside from some examples of when the audience actually speaks up and finds some glitches unpleasant to watch. But even there, 80 people liked the run, and only 3 didn't.
Acumenium wrote:
Judge the movie for what it's offering, and this, it isn't much. But this "rule" isn't followed to any degree to begin with.
Honestly I'm surprised any judge would say this is a "reason" when this site has very lax seizure warnings. I think I've only ever seen it for one or two videos when so many (Mega Man/Sonic/Zelda/etc.) TASes are definitely seizure potential and have zero warnings at all. I've seen more "warning bad sounds" than anything for seizures.
There's no rule to reject for "seizure potential". Also your post isn't productive. If you think some publications are dangeorous to watch due to seizure risk and we're not warning people enough, please link them.
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I like how you linked a TAS that’s not even possible without hacks or some game modification, because if you didn’t know, the only way to get to the upper part of the castle is by using the key from bowser in the fire sea. The area is not loaded unless you do that.
So I would argue this TAS would be unacceptable for a completely different reason than bad camera angles.
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There's also a difference between a split second and several minutes worth of it.
Epilepsy is not a monolith. Neither is motion sickness for that matter. I have played first-person shooter games that did not make me feel queasy and have played some that make me feel like I'm about to projectile vomit. And yet I can drive in a car just fine with no motion sickness.
Your logic is weird since the ten seconds that the infamous Pokemon strobe light scene was deemed by medical professionals to be excessive. Imagine entire videos---some up to an hour, or more even, with similar seizure triggers happening throughout.
Actually 4, Sonic falls under the "split second" as well.
If it's happening often enough, "split second" doesn't matter.
Frankly, your post is disturbing. You're okaying everything because of [x] reasons presumably because you like the games. Hey, I do too, but why not include more warnings? If there's going to be incredibly rapid camera/screen shifting or flashing lights, try to, I don't know, have warnings?
It takes maybe two seconds for a Judge (who has to watch the video anyway to judge it) to write a warning and it'd be far more inclusive as a whole.
@feos
When I look at the submission thread for it, I see 58 people that liked the run, 3 that didn't feel anything definitive, and zero people who disliked it. That clearly shows that the audience doesn't feel that that movie has negative entertainment value. So it doesn't make sense to apply that rule.
Why that's just great. You're outright cherry picking. Let's read the whole segment you replied to again, shall we?
If a movie has entertainment significance which is deemed negatively, such as sickening camera angles, seizure inducing activity, and other rectifiable presentation decisions within it, the movie is not eligible for any tier.
Why did you cut it off at the first comma?
Why should we speak for random youtube videos that don't credit the authors and don't provide any reference to the source they were taken from? We don't even have such a short SM64 movie published on our site!
Seriously? This is your takeaway from it? Who the hell cares?! It's using the same glitches and has the same problematic camera as the ones here.
There's no rule to reject for "seizure potential". Also your post isn't productive. If you think some publications are dangeorous to watch due to seizure risk and we're not warning people enough, please link them.
Except for the above quoted one...
If a movie has entertainment significance which is deemed negatively, such as sickening camera angles, seizure inducing activity, and other rectifiable presentation decisions within it, the movie is not eligible for any tier.
What part of my post "isn't productive"? What is productive in a Gruefood thread, by the way? Just wondering.
I also fail to see why I should bring anything up when I literally did that here and have you outright trolling me with your insane cherry picking, straw-manning, and condescension.
It's not hard to determine what is problematic seizure or motion sickness activity, the two most common causes would be:
- rapidly changing and/or erratic cameras (Zelda, Sonic, 3D Mario, etc.), which can include Mega Man games with "zips" (Mega Man 1, Mega Man 2, etc.). FPSes would be incredibly guilty of this.
- flashing lights (some Pokemon games, some parts of Zelda 2, etc.)
This should've been something judges did years ago since it's actually easy for them to determine any of this since they, you know, have to watch the videos.
EDIT: Looking at the "Threaded Gruefood" section, it looks like some judges or runners don't like seizure warnings being pointed out. http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21972
Why is this a controversial subject?
EDIT: Looking at the "Threaded Gruefood" section, it looks like some judges or runners don't like seizure warnings being pointed out. http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21972
Why is this a controversial subject?
There are no Judges in that thread, and the only person against the warnings is a banned user.
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Great to know you're full of it Acumenium and I don't have to take you seriously.
Acumenium wrote:
The infamous Pokemon strobe light scene was deemed by medical professionals to be excessive.
You fail to understand the concept of two contrasting colours on a spectrum, red and blue literal polar opposites used at a rapid fire in a long time span. Aka you proved my point right since I was on about colours that are not opposites, like every game.
No you don't get a redo on that, I'm honestly not responding to you after this. Your comments are baseless and have no valid point.
Acumenium wrote:
Actually 4, Sonic falls under the "split second" as well.
If it's happening often enough, "split second" doesn't matter.
And you validated that point cause you couldn't argue it.
Acumenium wrote:
Frankly, your post is disturbing.
Hey remember the part where you brought up invalid games and comparisons and started complaining for no logical reasoning? Yeah I do too.
Acumenium wrote:
You're okaying everything because of [x] reasons presumably because you like the games.
Nah, I hate Ocarina of Time and your example for that TAS is quite laughable at how poor it is to people that do get motion sickness from watching someone else play.
Try Unfinished Swan or LocoRoco I heard and watched people get motion sickness by being a co-commentator.
Acumenium wrote:
But why not include more warnings?
Because your "warnings" are invalidated random string examples. You want one that might actually get an example after we figure out how to word it correctly?
Have a Publication that gained multiple complaints in the submission due to camera usage and is a valid issue that will soon get tagged: [1784] N64 Super Mario 64 "0 stars" by MICKEY_Vis11189, snark & ToT in 05:04.47Acumenium wrote:
If there's going to be incredibly rapid camera/screen shifting or flashing lights, try to, I don't know, have warnings?
Nice reminder that your examples were:
1. Not Published.
2. Were within the colour spectrum and actually wouldn't cause issues.
3. Dumb.
Anyways I can't be bothered reading what you wrote to feos, cause it's more of the same stupid invalidated stuff especially to an April Fools TAS, so I'll just jump to grabbing what you wrote in context and staring at how ridiculous you sound.
I'll also put emphasis on what part I'm staring at you on.
Acumenium wrote:
flashing lights (some Pokemon games, some parts of Zelda 2, etc.)
You do know battle animations is turned off in speedruns/TASes of Pokemon.
You do know it's a small section of a game in a battle that if the setting was turned on it's not even rapid, it's literally a good enough gap apart.
You do know when you encounter the trainer, the one that does give the flashing actually isn't strong.
You do realize how ridiculous you sound now right? No you don't? Ok, you're hissy fitting over a half-joking rejection on an April Fools TAS that was also done as a joke.
Get over it.
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Acumenium wrote:
Why that's just great. You're outright cherry picking. Let's read the whole segment you replied to again, shall we?
If a movie has entertainment significance which is deemed negatively, such as sickening camera angles, seizure inducing activity, and other rectifiable presentation decisions within it, the movie is not eligible for any tier.
Why did you cut it off at the first comma?
Because it's a list of examples of what may be the reason for negative entertainment value. None of the viewers (refer back to my post for numbers of watchers, it was a lot of people!) mentioned that they got any symptoms of epilepsy/seizures, motion sickness, or anything of that nature. And when theydomention it, wedoput a warning. Sometimes nobody tells us and westilldoit. Which resolves this accusation:
It's not hard to determine what is problematic seizure or motion sickness activity, the two most common causes would be:
- rapidly changing and/or erratic cameras (Zelda, Sonic, 3D Mario, etc.), which can include Mega Man games with "zips" (Mega Man 1, Mega Man 2, etc.). FPSes would be incredibly guilty of this.
- flashing lights (some Pokemon games, some parts of Zelda 2, etc.)
This should've been something judges did years ago since it's actually easy for them to determine any of this since they, you know, have to watch the videos.
Acumenium wrote:
Seriously? This is your takeaway from it? Who the hell cares?! It's using the same glitches and has the same problematic camera as the ones here.
Should I be comparing every publication to your fake video or should I be reading your mind? Or are you saying every SM64 publication should have been rejected for "entertainment significance which is deemed negatively"?
Acumenium wrote:
What is productive in a Gruefood thread, by the way?
I don't understand what you're asking.
Acumenium wrote:
I also fail to see why I should bring anything up when I literally did that here and have you outright trolling me with your insane cherry picking, straw-manning, and condescension.
None of the people who have watched it mentioned any health issues caused by it.
Acumenium wrote:
Looking at the "Threaded Gruefood" section, it looks like some judges or runners don't like seizure warnings being pointed out. http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21972
Why is this a controversial subject?
I have no idea what you're trying to find in Threaded Gruefood, which is where all the derailed and flamewar thread splits go to get locked, basically a cesspool. It's never been controversial as you can see from my pile of links above.
And I'm still waiting for an answer to
Infamously bad according to whom?
And to
Does every other rejection reason I posted make perfect sense to you?
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You fail to understand the concept of two contrasting colours on a spectrum, red and blue literal polar opposites used at a rapid fire in a long time span. Aka you proved my point right since I was on about colours that are not opposites, like every game.
No you don't get a redo on that, I'm honestly not responding to you after this. Your comments are baseless and have no valid point.
Hey everybody, this edgy 4chan troll is a publisher surprisingly.
There are only absolutes. There is only one cause to anything good or bad. There is never a second option. He also an Almighty authority. Only He declares what is "base(d?)" and "a valid point".
Motion sickness (which is actually very common among gamers, hence why VSync and its later superior versions are so common) has many causes. It doesn't take only one specific frame rate or one specific
Hyper Beam in Pokemon Yellow flashes the screen five times (I think? Might be four. Would have to rewatch my own video) with your polar opposite example. Still a very possible seizure warning even though it's not for very long.
And you validated that point cause you couldn't argue it.
Or, genius, it's because more than one option can be true.
If a camera jerks every other second, it's a jerky camera. If a camera jerks EVER second, it's a JERKIER camera. But still a jerky camera.
Nah, I hate Ocarina of Time
I do too! But it is a very prime example of what can be a trigger: very erratic, flickering cameras.
Because your "warnings" are invalidated random string examples. You want one that might actually get an example after we figure out how to word it correctly?
Are you so arthritic copy and pasting something to the effect of "This video features very high frame-rate motion and flickering and as such, viewers with epilepsy or motion sickness should be warned." is somehow too hard?
"Random string examples" what does this gobbledygook garbage even mean?
How to word it correctly? What are we discussing here, freaking rocket science? It's astounding "Judges" can determine the vast intricacies of video game glitches and how they work down to the PROGRAMMING and how to categorize runs but it's apparently impossible to type "has flashing lights" or "has high motion/flickering camera".
You're a condescending tool who would be auto-banned in basically any forum for your awful and toxic behavior. You can reply to me again, troll, if you like barking at the wind, because I'm not paying any more attention to you.
@feos:
Should I be comparing every publication to your fake video or should I be reading your mind? Or are you saying every SM64 publication should have been rejected for "entertainment significance which is deemed negatively"?
EVERY SM64 VIDEO HAS THE EXACT SAME PROBLEMS AS THE "FAKE VIDEO" YOU TROLL. QUIT HARPING ON WHAT THE VIDEO IS. God. It's like you have selective reading and amnesia or something.
You keep quoting a goddamn rule and FAILING TO READ THE ENTIRETY OF IT BECAUSE IT WOULD PAINT THE JUDGES OR THE EXISTENCE OF CERTAIN MOVIES POORLY. Here, LET US READ IT AGAIN.
If a movie has entertainment significance which is deemed negatively, such as sickening camera angles, seizure inducing activity, and other rectifiable presentation decisions within it, the movie is not eligible for any tier.
To help you since you can't read full sentences:
such as sickening camera angles, seizure inducing activity, and other rectifiable presentation decisions within it, the movie is not eligible for any tier.
I think a movie causing someone to get sick or have a SEIZURE is a "negative quality". A solution to this is a WARNING which not enough videos feature.
Which resolves this accusation
No, it really doesn't. It's not featured anywhere near enough which is bull when Judges literally HAVE to watch a video and it takes all of five seconds to mention who (epilepsy or motion sickness sufferers) MIGHT want to steer clear of it.
I mean hell, you're over here bragging that sometimes "nobody tells you" but you do the bare minimum of your job anyway? Seriously?
It's never been controversial
except for this thread where you and the other troll started screaming at me and treating me like an idiot for suggesting videos have proper warnings
Some videos DO have warnings. THAT IS GOOD. Far MORE need them. Motion sickness is unfortunately very common and it's really not talked about enough how it can be triggered by videos or video games.
Here's the deal: you watch the videos anyway. It's not hard to identify what can be a possible trigger for either illness (epilepsy/motion sickness). It's literally anything flashing/flickering, and in the latter case, incredibly unsteady and jerky cameras. Which some glitches---like those in Ocarina of Time, use, or when zips are used in Sonic or Mega Man, etc.
We have boilerplate categories like "Playaround", "Takes damage to save time", "Game end glitch" and so on.
SOME videos do have a warning. Again, this is great. Just add a small line to any video featuring problematic behavior. The fact that it is not only controversial to bring this up despite what you're claiming but that you pat yourself on the back for adding a warning to some videos, is baffling.
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Acumenium wrote:
[actual literal insanity]
dude your posts make me sick can you turn them off thanks in advance
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dude your posts make me sick can you turn them off thanks in advance
If a movie has entertainment significance which is deemed negatively, such as sickening camera angles, seizure inducing activity, and other rectifiable presentation decisions within it, the movie is not eligible for any tier.
Your own rules and guidelines are "actual literal insanity".
You heard it first here, folks.
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Acumenium wrote:
[nonsense]
Yeah okay that's nice. Also calling me an "edgy 4chan troll" means that you don't have any actual counterpoints and all you can do is attempt to dish out insults.
Anyways. You want me to point out where you stuffed up your response without even trying? Actually I'm doing it anyways, moving the emphasis around for it..
Acumenium wrote:
Hyper Beam in Pokemon Yellow flashes the screen five times (I think? Might be four. Would have to rewatch my own video) with your polar opposite example. Still a very possible seizure warning even though it's not for very long.
You really got to stop using Pokemon as your example:
Spikestuff wrote:
You do know battle animations is turned off in speedruns/TASes of Pokemon.
We don't play to the casual audience, bad attempt at trying to make a point again.
Also complain about moves in an actual TAS, once again you went to offsite works aka your own this time.
Call me when you actually can actually understand stuff as for now you dug yourself into a pit of complete uselessness, cause again:
Spikestuff wrote:
Great to know you're full of it Acumenium and I don't have to take you seriously.
As well as:
Spikestuff wrote:
You do realize how ridiculous you sound now right? No you don't? Ok, you're hissy fitting over a half-joking rejection on an April Fools TAS that was also done as a joke.
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and all you can do is attempt to dish out insults.
From the person who brings you greatest hits it is literally quoting, like:
No you don't get a redo on that, I'm honestly not responding to you after this. Your comments are baseless and have no valid point.
Anyways I can't be bothered reading what you wrote to feos, cause it's more of the same stupid invalidated stuff
so I'll just jump to grabbing what you wrote in context and staring at how ridiculous you sound. I'll also put emphasis on what part I'm staring at you on.
Get over it.
Great to know you're full of it and I don't have to take you seriously.
Ok, you're hissy fitting
Yeah, you don't have a point. You're crying now because I dared to call you out on your BS 4chan tactics and think it's "offensive" to be called a troll as you are literally trolling.
Get over yourself. Learn to read. FULL SENTENCES. Learn civility too!
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I well admit I am quite angry here. Also, respect is earned, not given. So far I've been called names (mostly stupid, sometimes crazy, irrelevant, etc.) and treated like absolute garbage for suggesting Judges, who watch every movie anyway, take the time out to warn people when videos feature flashing lights or flickering screens.
So yes, I well admit I am not acting very "respectful" to people who are so far kicking dirt on me for suggesting that there's a growing problem with published videos that can be fixed with maybe five seconds of a Judge's time when they're watching the videos anyway.
I'm struggling to get the people who want to keep calling me stupid and crazy to even read anything said. A Judge swarmed in here to disregard every single thing I've posted as "literal absolute insanity". What the HELL kind of behavior is that?
Then the other two people refuse to read more than a few words in any given sentence. It's as if Twitter is too novel-length to them.
Don't be surprised someone who you kicked dirt on wants to do the same to you.
Well it’s pretty clear that kicking dirt on people doesn’t work regardless of who does it first.
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[Today at 4:51 PM] Mothrayas: although if you like your own tweets that's the online equivalent of sniffing your own farts and probably tells a lot about you as a person
MemoryTAS Today at 7:01 PM: But I exert big staff energy honestly lol
Samsara Today at 1:20 PM: wouldn't ACE in a real life TAS just stand for Actually Cease Existing
Well it’s pretty clear that kicking dirt on people doesn’t work regardless of who does it first.
What more can be done?
I already said what I had to. I guess I could stop responding, but that changes as much as turning into the human doormat you want me to be. It's also some very strange false equivalence to claim that responding to someone bullying you is "literally as bad or worse" than the bully doing what they're doing.
I also want your opinion on an actual Judge coming in to start stirring crap with their disregard and insults toward me. That feels like some wildly inappropriate behavior from people who are supposed to be "pillars of the community".
EDIT: Worse yet, that "Judge" is a MODERATOR and did that?
My opinion is that you should put down the soup ladle if you dont want things to stir up.
[14:15] <feos> WinDOES what DOSn't
12:33:44 PM <Mothrayas> "I got an oof with my game!"
Mothrayas Today at 12:22: <Colin> thank you for supporting noble causes such as my feet
MemoryTAS Today at 11:55 AM: you wouldn't know beauty if it slapped you in the face with a giant fish
[Today at 4:51 PM] Mothrayas: although if you like your own tweets that's the online equivalent of sniffing your own farts and probably tells a lot about you as a person
MemoryTAS Today at 7:01 PM: But I exert big staff energy honestly lol
Samsara Today at 1:20 PM: wouldn't ACE in a real life TAS just stand for Actually Cease Existing
[14:15] <feos> WinDOES what DOSn't
12:33:44 PM <Mothrayas> "I got an oof with my game!"
Mothrayas Today at 12:22: <Colin> thank you for supporting noble causes such as my feet
MemoryTAS Today at 11:55 AM: you wouldn't know beauty if it slapped you in the face with a giant fish
[Today at 4:51 PM] Mothrayas: although if you like your own tweets that's the online equivalent of sniffing your own farts and probably tells a lot about you as a person
MemoryTAS Today at 7:01 PM: But I exert big staff energy honestly lol
Samsara Today at 1:20 PM: wouldn't ACE in a real life TAS just stand for Actually Cease Existing
Enough of this, it wasn't really on-topic to begin with and the hostility is readily apparent. Grueing this and deciding what else to do after some sleep.
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[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
