TASVideoAgent
They/Them
Moderator
Joined: 8/3/2004
Posts: 15582
Location: 127.0.0.1
This topic is for the purpose of discussing #4451: Ti_ & Ferret Warlord's NES Kyatto Ninden Teyandee in 08:56.65
Spikestuff
They/Them
Editor, Publisher, Expert player (2642)
Joined: 10/12/2011
Posts: 6438
Location: The land down under.
Kyatto Ninden Teyandee is the correct game name. Creating Temp Encode. Link to video Previous TAS for anyone wondering why I mentioned game name.
WebNations/Sabih wrote:
+fsvgm777 never censoring anything.
Disables Comments and Ratings for the YouTube account. Something better for yourself and also others.
Ti_
Former player
Joined: 12/4/2008
Posts: 27
Location: Russia
...
mklip2001
He/Him
Editor
Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 2227
Location: Georgia, USA
This looks good! It's nice to see an updated run of Samurai Pizza Cats :-) It's a fairly small margin of improvement, which makes the old run more impressive. It is a shame that you have to take so much time in the last stage to get 2 Ninpo powerups. However, the route looks good. It's a surprisingly simple shortcut in Stage 6. One question: in Stage 5 (I think), you dig upwards with one cat before switching back to Batcat. You dig a little bit to the left of the breakable rocks. Why didn't you dig upwards at the edge of the dirt, right next to the breakable rocks?
Used to be a frequent submissions commenter. My new computer has had some issues running emulators, so I've been here more sporadically. Still haven't gotten around to actually TASing yet... I was going to improve Kid Dracula for GB. It seems I was beaten to it, though, with a recent awesome run by Hetfield90 and StarvinStruthers. (http://tasvideos.org/2928M.html.) Thanks to goofydylan8 for running Gargoyle's Quest 2 because I mentioned the game! (http://tasvideos.org/2001M.html) Thanks to feos and MESHUGGAH for taking up runs of Duck Tales 2 because of my old signature! Thanks also to Samsara for finishing a Treasure Master run. From the submission comments:
Shoutouts and thanks to mklip2001 for arguably being the nicest and most supportive person on the forums.
Site Admin, Skilled player (1254)
Joined: 4/17/2010
Posts: 11475
Location: Lake Char­gogg­a­gogg­man­chaugg­a­gogg­chau­bun­a­gung­a­maugg
I believe we should switch to the English title with this submission.
Warning: When making decisions, I try to collect as much data as possible before actually deciding. I try to abstract away and see the principles behind real world events and people's opinions. I try to generalize them and turn into something clear and reusable. I hate depending on unpredictable and having to make lottery guesses. Any problem can be solved by systems thinking and acting.
Ti_
Former player
Joined: 12/4/2008
Posts: 27
Location: Russia
mklip2001 wrote:
This looks good! It's nice to see an updated run of Samurai Pizza Cats :-) It's a fairly small margin of improvement, which makes the old run more impressive. It is a shame that you have to take so much time in the last stage to get 2 Ninpo powerups. However, the route looks good. It's a surprisingly simple shortcut in Stage 6. One question: in Stage 5 (I think), you dig upwards with one cat before switching back to Batcat. You dig a little bit to the left of the breakable rocks. Why didn't you dig upwards at the edge of the dirt, right next to the breakable rocks?
note: I've only made improvement with stage6, old movie was written by Ferret. So, I don't know about his tactic. What about shortcut, I've watched sgdq speedrun , and they don't knows about it :) proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C65w1cXKG3o&feature=player_detailpage#t=534
Spikestuff
They/Them
Editor, Publisher, Expert player (2642)
Joined: 10/12/2011
Posts: 6438
Location: The land down under.
feos wrote:
I believe we should switch to the English title with this submission.
Well we can be correct name or the name we provided on the previous TAS or use a bootleg English title or use the English title to the Anime. Welp feos' option is the third one. Samurai Pizza Cats Well to be exact it's Cat Ninja Legend Teyandee but hey whatever. Ti_ to update your TAS use this: http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/my#uploadfile Then link it back here requesting for a update to the file.
WebNations/Sabih wrote:
+fsvgm777 never censoring anything.
Disables Comments and Ratings for the YouTube account. Something better for yourself and also others.
Ti_
Former player
Joined: 12/4/2008
Posts: 27
Location: Russia
Spikestuff wrote:
Ti_ to update your TAS use this: http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/my#uploadfile Then link it back here requesting for a update to the file.
http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/17775087114836967
Ti_
Former player
Joined: 12/4/2008
Posts: 27
Location: Russia
Spikestuff wrote:
Well we can be correct name or the name we provided on the previous TAS or use a bootleg English title or use the English title to the Anime.
Why you just can't use both names: something like: Samurai Pizza Cats / Kyatto Ninden Teyandee because when someone uses search, it can write any name.
fsvgm777
She/Her
Senior Publisher, Player (226)
Joined: 5/28/2009
Posts: 1213
Location: Luxembourg
I suggest we stay on the properly romanised Japanese title; that is, Kyatto Ninden Teyandee. The game was never released outside of Japan anyway. Besides, the game title on the previous publication is wrong, as it really should be the above, not Cattou Ninden Teyandee (which would be written as ッ党忍伝てやんでえ in Japanese instead of キャッ党忍伝てやんでえ).
Steam Community page - Bluesky profile Oh, I'm just a concerned observer.
Spikestuff
They/Them
Editor, Publisher, Expert player (2642)
Joined: 10/12/2011
Posts: 6438
Location: The land down under.
Ti_ wrote:
note: I've only made improvement with stage6, old movie was written by Ferret. So, I don't know about his tactic.
So in other words the authors for this TAS are Ti_ and FerretWarlord.
WebNations/Sabih wrote:
+fsvgm777 never censoring anything.
Disables Comments and Ratings for the YouTube account. Something better for yourself and also others.
mklip2001
He/Him
Editor
Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 2227
Location: Georgia, USA
I agree with fsvgm777's suggestion of the name. Cattou Ninden Teyandee was the wrong Romanization. And Spikestuff, you're right; it should be two authors.
Used to be a frequent submissions commenter. My new computer has had some issues running emulators, so I've been here more sporadically. Still haven't gotten around to actually TASing yet... I was going to improve Kid Dracula for GB. It seems I was beaten to it, though, with a recent awesome run by Hetfield90 and StarvinStruthers. (http://tasvideos.org/2928M.html.) Thanks to goofydylan8 for running Gargoyle's Quest 2 because I mentioned the game! (http://tasvideos.org/2001M.html) Thanks to feos and MESHUGGAH for taking up runs of Duck Tales 2 because of my old signature! Thanks also to Samsara for finishing a Treasure Master run. From the submission comments:
Shoutouts and thanks to mklip2001 for arguably being the nicest and most supportive person on the forums.
Skilled player (1416)
Joined: 10/27/2004
Posts: 1978
Location: Making an escape
Ti_ wrote:
mklip2001 wrote:
This looks good! It's nice to see an updated run of Samurai Pizza Cats :-) It's a fairly small margin of improvement, which makes the old run more impressive. It is a shame that you have to take so much time in the last stage to get 2 Ninpo powerups. However, the route looks good. It's a surprisingly simple shortcut in Stage 6. One question: in Stage 5 (I think), you dig upwards with one cat before switching back to Batcat. You dig a little bit to the left of the breakable rocks. Why didn't you dig upwards at the edge of the dirt, right next to the breakable rocks?
note: I've only made improvement with stage6, old movie was written by Ferret. So, I don't know about his tactic.
This leads me to ask: how much of this run was copied directly from my old run? I ask, because outside that one section in level 6, it looks identical to mine. I thank you for pointing out my ignorance in that one section, but if all you did was edit in that one improvement, I'm afraid I'll have to insist on co-authorship at the very least. In terms of other improvements, I think there are some sections I switch to Batcat a little early on, leading me to lose time on some ladders; however, we're talking one frame per ladder, so it's pretty insignificant. Anyway, to answer the question at hand: I only needed to move to the right for one frame to clear the dirt; digging where I did allows me time to move forward while winding up Catton's punch to break the block. Also, the rapid dig technique seen later in the run might be a tad slower here, because it slows running speed down a bit, and that's a looong piece of dirt to dig through that way. I honestly never tested it. In short: Good job finding the improvement, but please give credit where credit is due, and holy crap is my run really nine years old now?! Edit: Okay, I just noticed you altered the beginning of level 7 a bit: you flinched at the very start. Was there a reason for this?
A hundred years from now, they will gaze upon my work and marvel at my skills but never know my name. And that will be good enough for me.
Ti_
Former player
Joined: 12/4/2008
Posts: 27
Location: Russia
Ferret Warlord wrote:
Edit: Okay, I just noticed you altered the beginning of level 7 a bit: you flinched at the very start. Was there a reason for this?
Old movie desyncs on newer version emulator on some levels (mostly when ninpo should drops from egg), so I've adjusted some buttons. About changes, I've already says that it's improvement of previous movie. I've downloaded it and made that improvement.
Ferret Warlord wrote:
I'm afraid I'll have to insist on co-authorship at the very least.
I've not write that it's my run. You may see your as author in movie file metadata, so I've not steal your movie. :) Just beat a time record. About how it's published on site, I don't know system.
Samsara
She/They
Senior Judge, Site Admin, Expert player (2238)
Joined: 11/13/2006
Posts: 2822
Location: Northern California
Ti_ wrote:
I've not write that it's my run. You may see your as author in movie file metadata, so I've not steal your movie. :) Just beat a time record. About how it's published on site, I don't know system.
The metadata is nowhere near enough, since hardly anyone who watches this movie is going to check it. You need to actually edit the submission to include him as a co-author. Where it says "Author's Nickname" you'd write "Ti_ and Ferret Warlord". Considering most of the input is his, I suggest you do this as soon as possible.
TASvideos Admin and acting Senior Judge 💙 Currently unable to dedicate a lot of time to the site, taking care of family. Now infrequently posting on Bluesky
warmCabin wrote:
You shouldn't need a degree in computer science to get into this hobby.
Ti_
Former player
Joined: 12/4/2008
Posts: 27
Location: Russia
Samsara wrote:
You need to actually edit the submission to include him as a co-author.
Okay, done.
Skilled player (1416)
Joined: 10/27/2004
Posts: 1978
Location: Making an escape
Also, Ti linked to this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C65w1cXKG3o The selfish part of me wonders how much influence I had here.
A hundred years from now, they will gaze upon my work and marvel at my skills but never know my name. And that will be good enough for me.
Joined: 8/21/2012
Posts: 29
Location: Russia, Moscow
That's sure is unexpected shortcut there 0_o Voting "Yes".
Post subject: Movie published
TASVideoAgent
They/Them
Moderator
Joined: 8/3/2004
Posts: 15582
Location: 127.0.0.1
This movie has been published. The posts before this message apply to the submission, and posts after this message apply to the published movie. ---- [2697] NES Kyatto Ninden Teyandee by Ti_ & Ferret Warlord in 08:56.65
BigBoct
He/Him
Editor, Former player
Joined: 8/9/2007
Posts: 1692
Location: Tiffin/Republic, OH
Might I suggest adding a note to the publication about the English localization of the show being named Samurai Pizza Cats?
Previous Name: boct1584
mklip2001
He/Him
Editor
Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 2227
Location: Georgia, USA
Ok, done. Now, I don't know the original Japanese names for some of the other cats, like Batcat, so I left them out of the description. That can be fixed by any editor though.
Used to be a frequent submissions commenter. My new computer has had some issues running emulators, so I've been here more sporadically. Still haven't gotten around to actually TASing yet... I was going to improve Kid Dracula for GB. It seems I was beaten to it, though, with a recent awesome run by Hetfield90 and StarvinStruthers. (http://tasvideos.org/2928M.html.) Thanks to goofydylan8 for running Gargoyle's Quest 2 because I mentioned the game! (http://tasvideos.org/2001M.html) Thanks to feos and MESHUGGAH for taking up runs of Duck Tales 2 because of my old signature! Thanks also to Samsara for finishing a Treasure Master run. From the submission comments:
Shoutouts and thanks to mklip2001 for arguably being the nicest and most supportive person on the forums.
Joined: 11/15/2004
Posts: 804
Location: Canada
I loved Samurai Pizza Cats! I had no idea there was a video game that never made it to North America. It's hard to tell without playing it, but it looks like it sucks about a thousand times less balls than the Transformers game that never made it to North America. It reminds me more of Mega Man than Ninja Gaiden, though. It's cool that you can even play as members of the Rescue Team, though Bat Cat kind of stole the show. I definitely saw Meowzma and Spritz, but I'm not sure if I saw General Catton. From the main team, Speedy and Polly were obvious, but I'm not sure if I saw Guido. I love that the bosses are giant mechs, as well as the Big Cheese and, I think, Bad Bird. That was seriously nostaglic, and just an entertaining TAS in general. Easy yes vote, even though it no longer needs it.
TASing or playing back a DOS game? Make sure your files match the archive at RGB Classic Games.
J.Y
Skilled player (1174)
Joined: 5/24/2008
Posts: 81
Hi, ups. I can't find the Kyatto Ninden Teyandee (J) [!].nes.
Patashu
He/Him
Joined: 10/2/2005
Posts: 4043
Mzscla wrote:
Hi, ups. I can't find the Kyatto Ninden Teyandee (J) [!].nes and I want to know where I can download it. thanks.
It is illegal to distribute ROMs. Use your google-fu to locate it.
My Chiptune music, made in Famitracker: http://soundcloud.com/patashu My twitch. I stream mostly shmups & rhythm games http://twitch.tv/patashu My youtube, again shmups and rhythm games and misc stuff: http://youtube.com/user/patashu
J.Y
Skilled player (1174)
Joined: 5/24/2008
Posts: 81
Patashu wrote:
Mzscla wrote:
Hi, ups. I can't find the Kyatto Ninden Teyandee (J) [!].nes.
It is illegal to distribute ROMs. Use your google-fu to locate it.
Ok, thank you. And I may soon improve it. :D