The OoB is well known and the idea to warp won't help in any%, but it's definitely worth keeping in mind for 100% (which will never be done, though :P).
It turns out mzxrules was right and the freeze after doing the Death Wrong Warps in both Dodongo's Cavern and Fire Temple can be avoided by watching the right cutscene before doing the Wrong Warp. Just to clarify this directly at the beginning: This only affects the MST / All Temples route. I was able to do the warps by saving and resetting after entering the dungeon. The last cutscene you watched then is the title screen cutscene, which seems to avoid the freezes.
It'd be better if we found better cutscenes to watch before doing the Wrong Warps, though, as resetting costs quite some time.
There are only 2 very minor question about the Any% route left, which can easily be answered by timing it. The timing has to be done by TASing it, though. That means, we can pretty much stop discussing the any% route for now unless some new pro trick or strategy comes out of nowhere.
As the Death Wrong Warp opens a lot of new route possibilites for the All Temples TAS, we should start discussing this now. In fact, there are so many possibilites, that I don't even have a bit of an idea, which probably be fastest.
Here's the first change over the old route, which will be done anyway:
Ocarina is skipped now and bottle is obtained again. This will be done before entering the Bottom of the Well to get bombchus. The bottle is needed to execute the Death Wrong Warps.
Here are the possible Wrong Warps. The Wrong Warps work as both child and adult. (Don't suggest Wrong Warping with other dungeons! It doesn't work with other Dungeons, we know why it doesn't and I'm not really keen on explaining it):
- Deku Tree to Dodongo's Cavern
- Dodongo's Cavern to Gerudo Trainings Ground
- Fire Temple to Forest Temple
As we went from Fire Temple to Forest Temple in the old route anyway, this warp works perfectly fine. It also skips Minuet of Forest. Here's an example of the warp:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoQtZbBy-FQ
Some pretty big problem right away we need a solution for: Doing the Cutscene Skip in Forest Temple warps you normally back to the beginning of the dungeon. As we warped there using the Wrong Warp, leaving is no real option, because we'd then watch the Minuet Cutscene. To get out a warp song is probably the best option. We could either quickly get Bolero on the way to Fire Temple (Bolero CS can be skipped by dieing as well) or like you'll see later on, we could get Requiem.
Another problem is, that the Forest Temple cutscene warps you to Deku Tree, so beating Deku tree as adult would force us to travel the whole way to it.
Now some basic ideas of what we could do with the warps and also the disadvantages of those ideas:
1. Do Deku Tree as child again either directly at the beginning of the game or after getting bombchus. After Deku Tree we can then warp to Dodongo's Cavern. The main problem about this is, that we have to beat Jabu as child no matter what, so beating both Deku Tree and Dodongo's Cavern as child gives us all 3 Spiritual Stones and thus we have a problem on how to get into the market again after beating the last child dungeon, because Ganondorf and his cutscene would be waiting for us on the entrance of the market.
2. Dodongo's Cavern as child gives us bombs very early and thus we can save quite some time using them. After DC (Dodongo's Cavern) we could warp to GTG (Gerudo Training's Ground) and then go straight to Spirit Temple. We can't beat it as child, though, so all we could do is getting Requiem to warp there as Adult later on. Planting the bean wouldn't help, because riding the bean is slower than simply hovering up to the ledge.
3. We could do Dodongo's Cavern as Adult and then do the warp. That way we could go to Spirit Temple very fast and unlike doing the warp as child we wouldn't need Requiem. The huge disadvantage is, that we can't do Shadow Temple before doing Dodongo's Cavern, because we need bombs to do the Shadow Temple BK skip. This also would force us to do the Mirror Shield from Outside trick without Hover Boots. Other than that having no Bombs for that late into the game would cost a lot of time, because we couldn't slide everywhere like we did before.
4. We could get Bomb Bag as child and open the head and then leave DC again. Later on we return as Adult to finish the temple and do the warp to Spirit Temple. This would add some extra time for leaving and reentering, but it would fix most route problems this warp gives us.
5. We could do Deku Tree as Adult like before using the strategy to beat it in just a few seconds and then warp to Dodongo's Cavern. This would work nicely combined with idea number 4.
This is everything that came to my mind. In my opinion a combination of idea 4 and 5 is probably best, but maybe somebody knows an even better way. Let the discussion begin :)
