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Posted: 10/31/2011 6:25 AM
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Slowking
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Uhm okay... You do know that 1. both of these are old and 2. TAS would use a different form of aqua escape, don't you?
Posted: 11/1/2011 1:06 AM
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Synx
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Thevlackdemonn2294 wrote:
forest escape without sword and shield http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdp9vPa91j0&feature=channel_video_title
Cool :D thx4sharing
Posted: 11/1/2011 2:59 AM
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snorlax
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Slowking wrote:
Uhm okay... You do know that 1. both of these are old and 2. TAS would use a different form of aqua escape, don't you?
I haven't seen them before. They haven't been posted here or at SDA. What forest escape would you use?
Posted: 11/1/2011 3:40 AM
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Slowking
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Yeah nowadays you'll find new zelda stuff on ZSR. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlBVVwDm_ks#t=6m30s With the clip you don't have to wait for navi to speak up. Way too inconsistent for a normal run, but perfect for a TAS.
Posted: 11/1/2011 1:29 PM
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Mitjitsu
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Pokey seems to be able to do that consistently.
Posted: 11/1/2011 1:56 PM
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Slowking
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Well pokey is a freak of nature. :D
Posted: 11/1/2011 6:19 PM
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Slowking wrote:
Yeah nowadays you'll find new zelda stuff on ZSR. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlBVVwDm_ks#t=6m30s With the clip you don't have to wait for navi to speak up. Way too inconsistent for a normal run, but perfect for a TAS.
This looks like it requires the sword.
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Posted: 11/1/2011 7:18 PM
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It can be done with a deku stick as well. The stick doesn't even break, which might make skipping sword quicker.
Posted: 11/1/2011 8:05 PM
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Slowking
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Yeah it won't ;p You really don't save that much with skipping the sword, since going to the shop takes quit some time, too. Then the sword speeds up going down zoras river, then 1-2 HISS in hyrule field, slashing cuccos here and there, etc. I would really like the swordless dot skip to be usefull, too. It is awesome. Sadly I just don't see it. :(
Posted: 11/1/2011 8:50 PM
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Slowking wrote:
Yeah it won't ;p You really don't save that much with skipping the sword, since going to the shop takes quit some time, too. Then the sword speeds up going down zoras river, then 1-2 HISS in hyrule field, slashing cuccos here and there, etc. I would really like the swordless dot skip to be usefull, too. It is awesome. Sadly I just don't see it. :(
can't stick be used for these things too?
Posted: 11/1/2011 8:56 PM
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Slowking
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Yeah it's just that every time you do these things a stick breaks. So you would nedd like ten sticks for this stuff. You have neither the rupees nor the time to buy these many sticks.
Posted: 11/2/2011 12:53 AM
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Synx
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Slowking wrote:
Yeah it's just that every time you do these things a stick breaks. So you would nedd like ten sticks for this stuff. You have neither the rupees nor the time to buy these many sticks.
I see how that might be a problem :P
Posted: 11/2/2011 2:56 PM
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Does making an unbreakable half deku-stick prevent any of these glitches? I guess if you have to put your stick away...
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Posted: 11/2/2011 9:22 PM
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Slowking
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Broken stick goes away when you walk through a loading zone. So nope.
Posted: 11/3/2011 1:59 AM
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Synx
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Is there a way to find additional sticks after buying one?
Posted: 11/3/2011 6:42 AM
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Slowking
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Not on this route.
Posted: 11/28/2011 3:53 AM
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Synx
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I would like to request an uptade on runs in progress
Posted: 11/28/2011 3:54 PM
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Slowking
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any%: Nobody is working on this one MST: swordless is lazy (and actually TASing OoS at the moment, so no progess there)
Posted: 11/28/2011 11:44 PM
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that news was heavy on my heart. But thx for the update.
Posted: 12/1/2011 12:06 AM
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What is the exact time difference between sword and deku stick up to escape? The sword only saves time in zoras river, hf, and hitting cuccos? But the deku stick can do some of that. I think it should be timed out to just make sure you know which way is faster.
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Posted: 12/1/2011 3:18 AM
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Slowking
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Nobody is going to time that. It's clearly slower. Going to the shop and buying the stick costs about as much time as getting the sword. If you go the sword route you have a few rupees to spare, so you don't have to climb the bridge and it speeds you up in quite a few places. I just watched the any% and I thought I'd note the possible improvements/changes for the next runner. Hope I didn't forget anything in the meantime: - way less rupees because no shield or shop visit even - Aqua escape instead of bridgeclip - Test if ruto bottle is faster if J version is used (which it should) - Combine A-Slide and Z-Slide on the way back from lake hylia to turn without losing speed, thus making splitting the slide unnecessary - first time catching bugs and RBA should be combined after you got Cojiro (throw the stone, do RBA twice [Bombs and Cojiro] while it's in the air) - Since you do Aqua escape going through goron city after odd mush is probably faster since the hyrule field cutscene would play otherwise - Pull out odd mush twice to speed up old had reaction - Skip trails with a single megaflip from the stairs
Posted: 12/1/2011 4:16 AM
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Spider-Waffle
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Slowking wrote:
Going to the shop and buying the stick costs about as much time as getting the sword.
Spider-Waffle wrote:
What is the exact time difference between sword and deku stick up to escape?
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Posted: 12/1/2011 4:17 AM
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Slowking
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If you want to know it exactly how about you test it?
Posted: 12/1/2011 11:08 AM
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Spider-Waffle
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I timed that deku stick way is 32s faster to zora's river than sword way. It is not plausible that sword won't make up those 32s? It really doesn't seem clearly slower to me as you put it.
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Posted: 12/2/2011 1:04 AM
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Synx
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Slowking has been wrong before. He is usually right though. I would love to see some videos on this.
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