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I'm also embracing the idea suggested here, not only because of the revenue, but also for the increased quality in our runs which the new policy would induce.
NitroGenesis wrote:
I think the free subs should go to members who joined before the end of 2009.
The icing on the cake!
I am old enough to know better, but not enough to do it.
I'm fine with the pro site existing with ads, download limits per day or something like that. The problem is, plain and simple, paying real money to watch a goddamn TAS. TASing should not be a job--people don't, and shouldn't, do it as a way to make money, but rather because they enjoy the making of TASes, sharing with the community, and providing people with entertainment.
The news of this initially irritated me to the point I felt I had to say something about it. Although I'm aware this is likely a joke I somehow feel the need to speak my mind anyways. I understand the idea of profiting off of one's own hobby is very alluring. It's the kind of thing most people only dream of. There isn't anything wrong with the concept unless it is at other people's expense and unfortunately this seems to be the case.
The main problem is the cost. I'm not sure how the price was determined, whether it was out of necessity or ignorance I can't say; but a $25 monthly fee is blatantly excessive, especially considering other subscription services such as Netflix don't even charge half this price. Seriously, this equals out to $300 dollars a year. I could buy a yearly pass for Xbox Live for a fifth of this price and have far greater of a time playing games with my friends than I would passively watching a tool-assisted run of a game. I assure you I love watching TAS videos, but I'm not going to claim they are a better source of entertainment than a nigh unlimited number of shows and movies from Netflix or spending an afternoon messing around in Halo or Minecraft with my best friends.
It seems the value of these videos has been grossly overestimated. I'll admit I'm not extensively familiar with the amount of work and effort that goes into making a tool-assisted run. From what I've gathered it seems it can be quite laborious. I fully appreciate and respect the authors for putting in all the effort. However, I simply do not feel it warrants the cost. This is by no means a necessary or justifiable service. It seems to be one produced solely out of greed and it's really quite sad.
Joined: 3/9/2004
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Moogle wrote:
The main problem is the cost. I'm not sure how the price was determined, whether it was out of necessity or ignorance I can't say; but a $25 monthly fee is blatantly excessive, especially considering other subscription services such as Netflix don't even charge half this price. Seriously, this equals out to $300 dollars a year. I could buy a yearly pass for Xbox Live for a fifth of this price and have far greater of a time playing games with my friends than I would passively watching a tool-assisted run of a game.
Would you feel better if we divided up the pricing, and offered different pricing options?
Say for example, BizHawk Pro has a yearly subscription fee of $50, PCSX2-Pro has a yearly subscription fee of $75.
A $1/month account lets you watch up to 10 videos a month, a $5/m account lets you watch 2 a day, and $15/m is unlimited?
Not saying these are the final prices, but perhaps ballpark as we work out the costs and can gauge feedback.
Fortranm wrote:
Wow, first TAS by Nach?
No.
Although first TAS on TASVideos where I'm explicitly mentioned as Nach as an author.
Edit:
As Mothrayas & ceiling_tire mentioned above, the screenshots also happen to be accessible to anybody:
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I'm not a vested member, I'm just your casual "passes by once a week to watch all new videos" guy...
All I can say is that I'm sad today, every communauty based website who tried to turn commercial failed miserably....
Whatever you can said, whatever the plan is, the damage has been done, this won't be a communauty based website anymore
There is a reason why wikipedia won't take money unless is a donation...
Imagine wikipedia throwing a premium section where you need to pay, it would be disastrous...
I sincerely wish you good luck guys, you were a prime source of entertainement for me, but you opened a wicked pandora box and I don't want to be a part of this and I'm sure there's a lot of people who think like me...
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Due to a lot of feedback viewing this plan negatively, and some loopholes pointed out, we're putting this on hold till we better work out the details.
If you already paid for this, please contact adelikat or myself for a refund.
The content we currently have on pro we're leaving in place. This is in order to provide incentive to join pro once we're ready to roll-out, even though this will take a while.
In order to make your mouth water, and wish we roll out pro sooner rather than later, here's a taste of the content you're missing out on:
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