1 2
Posted: 11/6/2012 6:11 PM
Post subject: Movie flags System
Quote
adelikat
He/Him
Emulator Coder, Site Developer, Site Owner, Expert player (3574)
Joined: 11/3/2004
Posts: 4754
Location: Tennessee
TASer of 2010 NES TASer of 2010 DS TASer of 2010 Arcade TAS of 2010 NES TASer of 2008 NES TAS of 2008 Funny TAS of 2008 TASer of 2007 NES TASer of 2007 Funny TAS of 2007
We recently rolled out a dynamic "Flag" system for the site. The power behind this system is that it is now easy to set flags such that an icon (optional) will show on movies, and they can be listed by this flag. For example: http://tasvideos.org/Movies-Verified.html users can now see a listing of movies with a particular flag, or in combination with other filters: http://tasvideos.org/Movies-Moons-NES-Verified.html In addition, editors (and users with homepages) can use the wiki module to place custom lists on pages: [module:displaymovie|flags=Verified|noflags|obs] For more information on how to build urls and what can be done in the displaymovie moduel, see the Movie Tokens page Eventually we will build a "Token Builder" page, where uses can select from all these options and click a button to be taken to a movie list based on their criteria (this would also include Game names). The point of this post however, is to emphasize that it is very easy to add flags, just need a criteria and an icon, from there staff users can add the flags to the necessary movies. So what kind of flags would you guys like to see?
It's hard to look this good. My TAS projects
Posted: 11/6/2012 7:16 PM
Quote
Torn338
Former player
Joined: 3/27/2010
Posts: 270
These flags being things like "Stars" "Moons" "Vault" "AVGN" "Console Verified" and "Notable Improvement"? If I've understood this right? In advance I do hope I understood this right :) I think easier organization on the main movie pages for the consoles/handhelds/arcades/etc themselves in the blank area (note the red): http://i48.tinypic.com/dzxm2u.jpg Could be used for things like "Show only stars" "Show only Moons" "Show only Vault" "Show only console Verified" and etc. That image was made on the NES TAS list on the site. That could help filter the list down for people who want to watch only NES TAS for example. -- Flags I'd like to see?: - "Crowd Favorites" = Games that people know basically around the world, ones where you can't hardly go anywhere with people saying I don't know what that game is. Games like Zelda or Mario. But That would be more based on the game itself and not reflect the TAS so that's a hard call... Especially if someone wanted to do a TAS of a bad game in a franchise (Superman 64 anyone?). With the abolition of the "bad game choice" rule too; that's an even harder call. - "Flags by Genre" = These flags could show the genre of a game by what it's most based on heavily. Ofcourse if this was used it'd require something like a drop down box for convience. Flag icons could range from survival horror showing a zombie or a rpg showing a chocobo head.
Posted: 11/6/2012 7:20 PM
Quote
Ilari
Emulator Coder, Skilled player (1113)
Joined: 5/1/2010
Posts: 1217
Rookie of 2010 New systems TASer of 2010 New systems TAS of 2010
Torn338 wrote:
These flags being things like "Stars" "Moons" "Vault" "AVGN" "Console Verified" and "Notable Improvement"? If I've understood this right? In advance I do hope I understood this right :)
Stars, Moons and Vault are tiers. Current flags in use are AVGN, Notable improvement, Console-Verified, First platform and Has commentary.
Posted: 11/6/2012 8:25 PM
Quote
TASeditor
Editor, Skilled player (1536)
Joined: 7/9/2010
Posts: 1319
Glitchy TAS of 2015 NES TASer of 2014 Speedy TAS of 2014 NES TAS of 2013
Isn't it better to use AVGN only for bad games? I mean there's not that much point about this flag.
Favorite animal: STOCK Gt(ROSA)26Sortm1.1(rtTA,EGFP)Nagy Grm7Tg(SMN2)89Ahmb Smn1tm1Msd Tg(SMN2*delta7)4299Ahmb Tg(tetO-SMN2,-luc)#aAhmb/J YouTube Twitch
Posted: 11/7/2012 1:07 AM
(Edited: 11/7/2012 1:14 AM)
Quote
OmegaWatcher
Joined: 5/2/2009
Posts: 656
TASeditor wrote:
Isn't it better to use AVGN only for bad games? I mean there's not that much point about this flag.
he didn't reviewed only bad games (the Castlevania series, Super Mario Bros 3, Zelda 2) edit: upon watching the list, why is Duck Tales in the list? I don't seem to recall him even mentioning the game....
My first language is not English, so please excuse myself if I write something wrong. I'll do my best do write as cleary as I can, so cope with me here =) (ﾉಥ益ಥ）ﾉ
Posted: 11/7/2012 1:14 AM
Quote
adelikat
He/Him
Emulator Coder, Site Developer, Site Owner, Expert player (3574)
Joined: 11/3/2004
Posts: 4754
Location: Tennessee
TASer of 2010 NES TASer of 2010 DS TASer of 2010 Arcade TAS of 2010 NES TASer of 2008 NES TAS of 2008 Funny TAS of 2008 TASer of 2007 NES TASer of 2007 Funny TAS of 2007
I've got an idea for a flag, Atlas map encodes that AndyDick does: http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9731 We could flag all the movies he's done, and of course link the video on the movie description.
It's hard to look this good. My TAS projects
Posted: 11/7/2012 1:31 AM
Quote
NitroGenesis
He/Him
Editor, Experienced player (556)
Joined: 12/24/2009
Posts: 1873
OmegaWatcher wrote:
edit: upon watching the list, why is Duck Tales in the list? I don't seem to recall him even mentioning the game....
[Video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xL2xLveJCL8[/video] I have an idea for a flag. It's called "LOLflags" and we can just slap it on a movie that has no other tag.
YoungJ1997lol wrote:
Normally i would say Yes, but thennI thought "its not the same hack" so ill stick with meh.
Posted: 11/7/2012 1:49 AM
Quote
Baxter
Skilled player (1410)
Joined: 5/31/2004
Posts: 1821
TAS of 2013 SNES TAS of 2013 Speedy TAS of 2007 Innovative TAS of 2007
adelikat wrote:
I've got an idea for a flag, Atlas map encodes that AndyDick does: http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9731 We could flag all the movies he's done, and of course link the video on the movie description.
I like this idea, his movies are great!
http://tasvideos.org/Baxter.html
Posted: 11/7/2012 1:53 PM
Quote
Aqfaq
Editor, Expert player (2479)
Joined: 4/8/2005
Posts: 1573
Location: Gone for a year, just for varietyyyyyyyyy!!
Sega TASer of 2008 Lucky TAS of 2008
"Notable frame war"
Posted: 11/7/2012 6:45 PM
Quote
Grincevent
Active player (309)
Joined: 8/21/2012
Posts: 429
Location: France
Japanese/US/PAL versions. If you want icons, there is quite an... Iconic game for that: The ingame ones: I don't know what can be done for PAL versions ^^
Posted: 11/8/2012 1:28 PM
Quote
Odongdong
Player (213)
Joined: 9/14/2011
Posts: 349
Sega TAS of 2014
Why there's no Touch-me's Secret of Mana and Dragon Quest 5 in "Has commentary" group? Both movies have awesome encode.
Posted: 11/20/2012 5:14 PM
(Edited: 11/20/2012 5:16 PM)
Quote
feos
Site Admin, Skilled player (1254)
Joined: 4/17/2010
Posts: 11480
Location: Lake Char­gogg­a­gogg­man­chaugg­a­gogg­chau­bun­a­gung­a­maugg
NES TAS of 2011
We definitely need a framewar tag! Like this:
Warning: When making decisions, I try to collect as much data as possible before actually deciding. I try to abstract away and see the principles behind real world events and people's opinions. I try to generalize them and turn into something clear and reusable. I hate depending on unpredictable and having to make lottery guesses. Any problem can be solved by systems thinking and acting.
Posted: 11/20/2012 5:15 PM
Quote
adelikat
He/Him
Emulator Coder, Site Developer, Site Owner, Expert player (3574)
Joined: 11/3/2004
Posts: 4754
Location: Tennessee
TASer of 2010 NES TASer of 2010 DS TASer of 2010 Arcade TAS of 2010 NES TASer of 2008 NES TAS of 2008 Funny TAS of 2008 TASer of 2007 NES TASer of 2007 Funny TAS of 2007
Odongdong wrote:
Why there's no Touch-me's Secret of Mana and Dragon Quest 5 in "Has commentary" group? Both movies have awesome encode.
Let's not use this thread for flag maintenance requests, this is just about ideas. We should have a thread dedicated to these types of posts.
It's hard to look this good. My TAS projects
Posted: 11/20/2012 5:18 PM
Quote
feos
Site Admin, Skilled player (1254)
Joined: 4/17/2010
Posts: 11480
Location: Lake Char­gogg­a­gogg­man­chaugg­a­gogg­chau­bun­a­gung­a­maugg
NES TAS of 2011
adelikat wrote:
Odongdong wrote:
Why there's no Touch-me's Secret of Mana and Dragon Quest 5 in "Has commentary" group? Both movies have awesome encode.
Let's not use this thread for flag maintenance requests, this is just about ideas. We should have a thread dedicated to these types of posts.
Having one sticky thread for all flags maintenance is more handy than having 5 threads constantly drowning among others.
Warning: When making decisions, I try to collect as much data as possible before actually deciding. I try to abstract away and see the principles behind real world events and people's opinions. I try to generalize them and turn into something clear and reusable. I hate depending on unpredictable and having to make lottery guesses. Any problem can be solved by systems thinking and acting.
Posted: 11/20/2012 5:44 PM
Quote
adelikat
He/Him
Emulator Coder, Site Developer, Site Owner, Expert player (3574)
Joined: 11/3/2004
Posts: 4754
Location: Tennessee
TASer of 2010 NES TASer of 2010 DS TASer of 2010 Arcade TAS of 2010 NES TASer of 2008 NES TAS of 2008 Funny TAS of 2008 TASer of 2007 NES TASer of 2007 Funny TAS of 2007
Grincevent wrote:
Japanese/US/PAL versions.
I think these would be better suited as movie classes. If there were flags though, I think the standard is to use the nation's flag as icons I added the atlas map flag, just need some volunteers to assign it to movies.
It's hard to look this good. My TAS projects
Posted: 11/20/2012 5:47 PM
Quote
feos
Site Admin, Skilled player (1254)
Joined: 4/17/2010
Posts: 11480
Location: Lake Char­gogg­a­gogg­man­chaugg­a­gogg­chau­bun­a­gung­a­maugg
NES TAS of 2011
What do you think?
Warning: When making decisions, I try to collect as much data as possible before actually deciding. I try to abstract away and see the principles behind real world events and people's opinions. I try to generalize them and turn into something clear and reusable. I hate depending on unpredictable and having to make lottery guesses. Any problem can be solved by systems thinking and acting.
Posted: 11/20/2012 6:21 PM
Post subject: myrtle beach
Quote
jimsfriend
Former player
Joined: 1/17/2006
Posts: 775
Location: Deign
I think we need an orange flag.
Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign aqfaq Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign
Posted: 11/20/2012 6:35 PM
Quote
AnS
Emulator Coder, Experienced player (728)
Joined: 2/23/2006
Posts: 682
What would be the usefulness of the framewar tag? It's not like it would be a synonym to technical superiority of the movie. So what's the exact meaning (for a casual visitor)? By the way, what about notable "music-sync" movies? Those where the player dances/shoots to the music in a notable fashion. An icon could be a music note or something.
Posted: 11/20/2012 6:40 PM
Quote
feos
Site Admin, Skilled player (1254)
Joined: 4/17/2010
Posts: 11480
Location: Lake Char­gogg­a­gogg­man­chaugg­a­gogg­chau­bun­a­gung­a­maugg
NES TAS of 2011
Also cool idea with the music moves. We are going to need a redesign of the publication page to keep all flags it may need. About the framewar: I personally think the framewar means people were competing in getting the best result, and it DOES mean the certain level of perfectness that ONE TASer would not achieve (no competition/motivation). Also the very frame war event is cool and notable, ideally every flagged movie provides the links to submissions that took part in it. Glitched Battlotoads were the case when the frame war was going on right in the submission thread.
Warning: When making decisions, I try to collect as much data as possible before actually deciding. I try to abstract away and see the principles behind real world events and people's opinions. I try to generalize them and turn into something clear and reusable. I hate depending on unpredictable and having to make lottery guesses. Any problem can be solved by systems thinking and acting.
Posted: 11/20/2012 9:22 PM
Quote
CoolKirby
Editor, Experienced player (570)
Joined: 11/8/2010
Posts: 4036
Exotic platforms TASer of 2014 NES TAS of 2013
feos wrote:
Also cool idea with the music moves. We are going to need a redesign of the publication page to keep all flags it may need.
We could stack the flags vertically instead, in the empty space on the outside of the description or the screenshot, and in descending order of importance (star would be at the top). Regarding the frame war flag, what difference is the level of optimization between a highly optimized run that an author knows is unimprovable (like Super Mario Bros "warps") and a run that happened to have a frame war to get to the same level of optimization? Wouldn't this be unfairly giving a run that was born from a frame war this "optimized" status and withholding it from a run like SMB warps?
Posted: 11/21/2012 12:44 AM
Quote
adelikat
He/Him
Emulator Coder, Site Developer, Site Owner, Expert player (3574)
Joined: 11/3/2004
Posts: 4754
Location: Tennessee
TASer of 2010 NES TASer of 2010 DS TASer of 2010 Arcade TAS of 2010 NES TASer of 2008 NES TAS of 2008 Funny TAS of 2008 TASer of 2007 NES TASer of 2007 Funny TAS of 2007
I don't think the flame war flag is something that is significant enough to have an icon. On a more important note, we need a "first publication for a platform" icon, if anyone is interesting in attempting that.
It's hard to look this good. My TAS projects
Posted: 11/21/2012 3:28 AM
Quote
feos
Site Admin, Skilled player (1254)
Joined: 4/17/2010
Posts: 11480
Location: Lake Char­gogg­a­gogg­man­chaugg­a­gogg­chau­bun­a­gung­a­maugg
NES TAS of 2011
Frame wars occur for relatively simple games, this flag is not EQUAL to perfectness, it's something different, it's about the even, where people were having fun.
Warning: When making decisions, I try to collect as much data as possible before actually deciding. I try to abstract away and see the principles behind real world events and people's opinions. I try to generalize them and turn into something clear and reusable. I hate depending on unpredictable and having to make lottery guesses. Any problem can be solved by systems thinking and acting.
Posted: 11/21/2012 3:51 AM
Quote
jimsfriend
Former player
Joined: 1/17/2006
Posts: 775
Location: Deign
sm64 relAtively simple
Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign aqfaq Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign
Posted: 11/21/2012 6:19 AM
Quote
Warp
Banned User
Joined: 3/10/2004
Posts: 7698
Location: Finland
feos wrote:
We definitely need a framewar tag!
How is "framewar" defined, exactly?
Posted: 11/21/2012 7:46 AM
Quote
Spikestuff
They/Them
Editor, Publisher, Expert player (2649)
Joined: 10/12/2011
Posts: 6442
Location: The land down under.
Flash TASer of 2022 PSX TASer of 2016
Warp wrote:
feos wrote:
We definitely need a framewar tag!
How is "framewar" defined, exactly?
FW??
WebNations/Sabih wrote:
+fsvgm777 never censoring anything.
Disables Comments and Ratings for the YouTube account. Something better for yourself and also others.
1 2