Posted: 7/1/2018 7:16 AM
(Edited: 7/1/2018 10:53 AM)
Post subject: should be giveup battles for save time?
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NhatNM
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In some fighitng/battle games, if giveup but still can win at totally then should I do giveup or get lose for save time? I don't like giveup, for hornor like as a warriors, maybe it's not make entertaiment for the run, but it's reduce boring if only aim speed run Here's example my run processing Link to video
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Posted: 7/1/2018 10:34 AM
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I think this decision is up to the TASer. (edit: but it's mostly depends on the game and the difference between winning every fight versus losing/skipping some fights) - If you are doing an any% where giving up / losing is faster, you should use it - If you are doing a 100% or any stat / ending related goal, you could use it as long as it fulfills the main goal
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Posted: 7/1/2018 10:51 AM
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NhatNM
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I have understand, thanks :D
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Posted: 7/1/2018 11:20 AM
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I find myself agreeing with MESHUGGAH. We allow losing HP, lives, even continues to save time (unless it throws the difficulty out of the window, like in most Arcade games). And when your goal is tied to winning all the fights, by definition you can't lose. Otherwise, if the game doesn't really punish you for losing, why not abuse that?
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Posted: 7/5/2018 2:21 AM
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megaman battle chip challenge may also present the same possibility, since you only need 3rd place in most tourneys to go forward in the tournament classes
I want all good TAS inside TASvideos, it's my motto. TAS i'm interested: Megaman series, specially the RPGs! Where is the mmbn1 all chips TAS we deserve? Where is the Command Mission TAS? i'm slowly moving away from TASing fighting games for speed, maybe it's time to start finding some entertainment value in TASing.